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Developing C-41 APS film at home with black and white chemicals
I know this borders on the ridiculous. Someone advertised an APS camera
for sale on a local mailing list, and this brought back memories. I have several APS cameras all bought for nearly nothing years ago and a lot of C-41 APS film, all bought out of date and they sat at room temperature for 3-4 years. Nothing is special about them, they were cheap cameras and are not in collectable condition. The film boxes are slightly shopworn, so they won't end up in a museum or on a collector's shelf. The idea of having a small camera I don't care if it survives being carried around has a lot of attraction. Half of the year it is dry and dusty. Sand and dust can easily kill a camera and so can other things, like being sat on, etc. One of my kids sat on a bag I carry around and broke a Palm Pilot. :-( Therefore I ask if I can develop the film at home using black and white chemicals. I assume I have to "crack" the casettes, will the film fit on a 35mm reel? If not, can I adjust a Paterson reel to fit it? Can the film itself be developed in Black and White chemicals, for example Rodinal? Any suggestions, pointers to information, etc would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog at http://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ |
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Developing C-41 APS film at home with black and white chemicals
Geoffrey S. Mendelson wrote:
I know this borders on the ridiculous. Someone advertised an APS camera for sale on a local mailing list, and this brought back memories. I have several APS cameras all bought for nearly nothing years ago and a lot of C-41 APS film, all bought out of date and they sat at room temperature for 3-4 years. Nothing is special about them, they were cheap cameras and are not in collectable condition. The film boxes are slightly shopworn, so they won't end up in a museum or on a collector's shelf. The idea of having a small camera I don't care if it survives being carried around has a lot of attraction. Half of the year it is dry and dusty. Sand and dust can easily kill a camera and so can other things, like being sat on, etc. One of my kids sat on a bag I carry around and broke a Palm Pilot. :-( Therefore I ask if I can develop the film at home using black and white chemicals. I assume I have to "crack" the casettes, will the film fit on a 35mm reel? If not, can I adjust a Paterson reel to fit it? Can the film itself be developed in Black and White chemicals, for example Rodinal? Any suggestions, pointers to information, etc would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Geoff. C-41 film in B&W chem does create an image, but not a very usable one. B&W chem doesn't remove the dyes that are in the C41 film, so your base is only slightly more transparent than what you see when you look at unprocessed film. The resulting negative is almost unprintable, and a lot of scanners will have a hard time getting an image. It has a very dark brown base, with only a faint black image. If you do manage to extract a usable image, it will be quite grainy, and high contrast. You can get chemistry for DIY C-41 processing though. If you have done home B&W processing, you should find C-41 no harder. It is a little more particular about timing, temperatures are a little harder to maintain (usually about 40C instead of 20C), and the chemistry a bit more nasty (time for the rubber gloves), but overall not really any harder to develop than B&W. As for APS - there is nothing about it that is any different for processing compared to 35mm, except for the size of the film. Holding it will be a hassle - I'm not aware of any reels for it. You might find you have to make a custom reel or something to hold it. The actual processing is identical to 35mm. |
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Developing C-41 APS film at home with black and white chemicals
On Feb 21, 3:44 am, (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote:
I know this borders on the ridiculous. Someone advertised an APS camera for sale on a local mailing list, and this brought back memories. I have several APS cameras all bought for nearly nothing years ago and a lot of C-41 APS film, all bought out of date and they sat at room temperature for 3-4 years. Nothing is special about them, they were cheap cameras and are not in collectable condition. The film boxes are slightly shopworn, so they won't end up in a museum or on a collector's shelf. The idea of having a small camera I don't care if it survives being carried around has a lot of attraction. Half of the year it is dry and dusty. Sand and dust can easily kill a camera and so can other things, like being sat on, etc. One of my kids sat on a bag I carry around and broke a Palm Pilot. :-( Therefore I ask if I can develop the film at home using black and white chemicals. I assume I have to "crack" the casettes, will the film fit on a 35mm reel? If not, can I adjust a Paterson reel to fit it? Can the film itself be developed in Black and White chemicals, for example Rodinal? Any suggestions, pointers to information, etc would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog athttp://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ The only issue is getting the film out of the canister, and some way of handling it in the chemistry, since it won't fit 35mm reels. I've run a few rolls of C41 film though black and white chemistry just to see what happened. My best results were 6 minutes in HC-110(B). Decent contrast, but the orange masking layer is still there. Laura Halliday VE7LDH "Non sequitur. Your ACKS are Grid: CN89mg uncoordinated." ICBM: 49 16.05 N 122 56.92 W - Nomad the Network Engineer |
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Developing C-41 APS film at home with black and white chemicals
On Feb 21, 6:44 am, (Geoffrey S. Mendelson) wrote:
I know this borders on the ridiculous. Someone advertised an APS camera for sale on a local mailing list, and this brought back memories. I have several APS cameras all bought for nearly nothing years ago and a lot of C-41 APS film, all bought out of date and they sat at room temperature for 3-4 years. Nothing is special about them, they were cheap cameras and are not in collectable condition. The film boxes are slightly shopworn, so they won't end up in a museum or on a collector's shelf. The idea of having a small camera I don't care if it survives being carried around has a lot of attraction. Half of the year it is dry and dusty. Sand and dust can easily kill a camera and so can other things, like being sat on, etc. One of my kids sat on a bag I carry around and broke a Palm Pilot. :-( Therefore I ask if I can develop the film at home using black and white chemicals. I assume I have to "crack" the casettes, will the film fit on a 35mm reel? If not, can I adjust a Paterson reel to fit it? Can the film itself be developed in Black and White chemicals, for example Rodinal? Any suggestions, pointers to information, etc would be appreciated. Thanks in advance, Geoff. -- Geoffrey S. Mendelson, Jerusalem, Israel N3OWJ/4X1GM IL Voice: (07)-7424-1667 U.S. Voice: 1-215-821-1838 Visit my 'blog athttp://geoffstechno.livejournal.com/ I'm interested in processing APS because it's dirt cheap (I just bought 100 rolls for $12) and I too was wondering about home processing. In response, you're asking for trouble. What you're planning on doing can only be bad news bears. Get a C41 kit. It costs $16 at B&H (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/109267-REG/ Tetenal_T109306_C_41_Press_Kit_for.html). It's simple, and they last long enough. It's not critical for temp control for amateur projects, and they give times for low temps like the old C22. As for that, are there any reels for APS? I'm using steel ones, so idk about that. If there are, nobody will know about them so I guess i'll just end here. |
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