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Old December 20th 15, 07:28 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default OT - Propaganda Games

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI

Coming soon, to a government near you.

If this doesn't scare you, it should.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
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Old December 20th 15, 07:41 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article ,
Eric Stevens wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI

Coming soon, to a government near you.

If this doesn't scare you, it should.


I can't be bothered with stuff like that all the the time. Really...
Please! Could it at least be a quadrennial like the olympics, or
something? ;-P
--
teleportation kills
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Old December 20th 15, 10:39 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Whiskers
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On 2015-12-20, android wrote:
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI

Coming soon, to a government near you.

If this doesn't scare you, it should.


I can't be bothered with stuff like that all the the time. Really...
Please! Could it at least be a quadrennial like the olympics, or
something? ;-P


People will soon learn to game the system. Dissent and resistance will
still happen.

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-- Whiskers
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Old December 21st 15, 03:08 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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On 20 Dec 2015 22:39:53 GMT, Whiskers
wrote:

On 2015-12-20, android wrote:
In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI

Coming soon, to a government near you.

If this doesn't scare you, it should.


I can't be bothered with stuff like that all the the time. Really...
Please! Could it at least be a quadrennial like the olympics, or
something? ;-P


People will soon learn to game the system. Dissent and resistance will
still happen.


Sure. And the pattern of behaviour that goes with it will show up via
the points system. That's when you find it hader to find a job, to get
a raise or find a decent place to live at a price you can afford.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
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Old December 21st 15, 03:25 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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On Dec 20, 2015, Eric Stevens wrote
(in ):

On 20 Dec 2015 22:39:53 GMT,
wrote:

On 2015-12-20, wrote:
In , Eric Stevens
wrote:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI

Coming soon, to a government near you.

If this doesn't scare you, it should.

I can't be bothered with stuff like that all the the time. Really...
Please! Could it at least be a quadrennial like the olympics, or
something? ;-P


People will soon learn to game the system. Dissent and resistance will
still happen.


Sure. And the pattern of behaviour that goes with it will show up via
the points system. That's when you find it hader to find a job, to get
a raise or find a decent place to live at a price you can afford.


....or somebody to talk to. Would there be some opportunity for a club made up
of low scorers?

If you think the Syrian refugee problem is serious, just see what happens
when the Chinese refugee problem rears its ugly head.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

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Old December 21st 15, 03:58 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Davoud
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Eric Stevens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI
Coming soon, to a government near you.


Nah. I already made Enemy of the State and Not a Real American because
I knew that the claim that Saddam had WMD and a nuclear weapons program
were pure fiction. They haven't come for me yet.

Whiskers:
People will soon learn to game the system. Dissent and resistance will
still happen.


Quite so. They're not fooling very many people.

Eric Stevens:
Sure. And the pattern of behaviour that goes with it will show up via
the points system. That's when you find it hader to find a job, to get
a raise or find a decent place to live at a price you can afford.


People always find ways to subvert the System in secret. The Internet
and the free flow of information will eventually bring down that
regime.

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I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
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Old December 21st 15, 05:19 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
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In article , Davoud
wrote:

Eric Stevens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI
Coming soon, to a government near you.


Nah. I already made Enemy of the State and Not a Real American because
I knew that the claim that Saddam had WMD and a nuclear weapons program
were pure fiction. They haven't come for me yet.

Whiskers:
People will soon learn to game the system. Dissent and resistance will
still happen.


Quite so. They're not fooling very many people.

Eric Stevens:
Sure. And the pattern of behaviour that goes with it will show up via
the points system. That's when you find it hader to find a job, to get
a raise or find a decent place to live at a price you can afford.


People always find ways to subvert the System in secret. The Internet
and the free flow of information will eventually bring down that
regime.


The Man will always get you. The warning is given!
--
teleportation kills
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Old December 21st 15, 06:40 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default OT - Propaganda Games

On Sun, 20 Dec 2015 22:58:09 -0500, Davoud wrote:

Eric Stevens:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHcTKWiZ8sI
Coming soon, to a government near you.


Nah. I already made Enemy of the State and Not a Real American because
I knew that the claim that Saddam had WMD and a nuclear weapons program
were pure fiction. They haven't come for me yet.

Whiskers:
People will soon learn to game the system. Dissent and resistance will
still happen.


Quite so. They're not fooling very many people.

Eric Stevens:
Sure. And the pattern of behaviour that goes with it will show up via
the points system. That's when you find it hader to find a job, to get
a raise or find a decent place to live at a price you can afford.


People always find ways to subvert the System in secret. The Internet
and the free flow of information will eventually bring down that
regime.


Social pressure cannot be unde- rated. Just look what happens to
people who don't toe the official line re global warming. There is
potential for things to get particularly nasty when the government has
the ability to set politically accepted norms and then upgrade or down
grade people according to the extent to which their actions conform to
the norms. Talk about social pressure!
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
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Old December 21st 15, 03:50 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Davoud
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Eric Stevens:
Social pressure cannot be unde- rated. Just look what happens to
people who don't toe the official line re global warming.


It's not an official line except in the sense that a spherical Earth
and a heliocentric Solar System are "official lines." It's
peer-reviewed science that is backed by an enormous quantity of
research and that is accepted by ~97% of independent scientists who are
qualified in the climate science.

There are parallels in other fields of scientific endeavor. Scientists
who deny Newtonian mechanics, General Relativity, Darwinian evolution,
and the germ theory of disease, e.g., risk discrimination when it comes
to getting positions in academia and in obtaining grants. There just
isn't much demand for scientists who believe that apples fall downward
due to the influence of magical elves--that hypothesis has been tested
and rejected. This is why science progresses rather than regresses.

There is
potential for things to get particularly nasty when the government has
the ability to set politically accepted norms and then upgrade or down
grade people according to the extent to which their actions conform to
the norms. Talk about social pressure!


In the U.S. the government doesn't dictate hiring by universities or by
research facilities that are not owned by the U.S. Government.

--
I agree with almost everything that you have said and almost everything that
you will say in your entire life.

usenet *at* davidillig dawt cawm
  #10  
Old December 21st 15, 11:13 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default OT - Propaganda Games

On Mon, 21 Dec 2015 10:50:26 -0500, Davoud wrote:

Eric Stevens:
Social pressure cannot be unde- rated. Just look what happens to
people who don't toe the official line re global warming.


It's not an official line except in the sense that a spherical Earth
and a heliocentric Solar System are "official lines." It's
peer-reviewed science that is backed by an enormous quantity of
research and that is accepted by ~97% of independent scientists who are
qualified in the climate science.


Let's not argue about the details. Just look at the way that people
(including scientists) who disagree with any part of the dogma are
treated. Imagine what would happen if people with disadent views on
any aspects of politics could be identified and efficiently
discriminated against by the central governing authorities.

There are parallels in other fields of scientific endeavor. Scientists
who deny Newtonian mechanics, General Relativity, Darwinian evolution,
and the germ theory of disease, e.g., risk discrimination when it comes
to getting positions in academia and in obtaining grants. There just
isn't much demand for scientists who believe that apples fall downward
due to the influence of magical elves--that hypothesis has been tested
and rejected. This is why science progresses rather than regresses.

There is
potential for things to get particularly nasty when the government has
the ability to set politically accepted norms and then upgrade or down
grade people according to the extent to which their actions conform to
the norms. Talk about social pressure!


In the U.S. the government doesn't dictate hiring by universities or by
research facilities that are not owned by the U.S. Government.


But just imagine what it would be like if they did, if they controlled
where you could get housing, how much you could earn etc.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens
 




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