Apple brings the nanny state to the computer world

On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:29:14 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/apple-blo...370092-11.html

Apple doe suck, but let's not ignore the real issue he Java, and
other programs like it, are swiss cheese and open your PC to a world
of security issues. Adobe is next in line with Flash, their version of
swiss cheese.

Much of the content on the web is Java-enabled. Use a product like No
Script and you can control it, but you will not be able to read/watch
a lot of what is out there.


I think you're confusing Java with javascript. (See
my post above.)

There's also a distinction between using script and
requiring script. (Java-enabled or script-enabled would
describe the browser, not the webpage.) A lot of pages
use script to enable things like simple animations,
ad-embedding, and Google analytics tracking. Those
pages don't necessarily require script. In fact, they usually
work better without it, and they usually spy on you less
without it. Then there are pages like webmail
that are highly interactive and simply won't work without
script. Third, there are a surprising number of dysfunctional
pages designed by people who either don't know what
they're doing or who are trying to force javascript enabling
in order to show ads and perform spyware operations. A
typical example is a site with a perfectly normal webpage,
but where all the content is set not to display via CSS.
Script is then used to toggle the display mode. Arriving at
such a page with script disabled shows a blank, or nearly
blank, page. If one then sets View - Page Style - No Style
(to override CSS) the whole page appears!

RichA wrote:
On Feb 1, 8:20*am, Bowser wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2013 19:29:14 -0800 (PST), RichA
wrote:

http://ibnlive.in.com/news/apple-blo...e-to-security-...

Apple doe suck, but let's not ignore the real issue he Java, and
other programs like it, are swiss cheese and open your PC to a world
of security issues. Adobe is next in line with Flash, their version of
swiss cheese.

Much of the content on the web is Java-enabled. Use a product like No
Script and you can control it, but you will not be able to read/watch
a lot of what is out there.

Given the attitude Oracle's lawyers are taking to the use of Java
developers are moving away from it anyway. It will soon just be an old
relic of lagacy nonsense, a once promising computer facility destroyed
by corporate greed and lawyers.

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RichA wrote:

Much of the content on the web is Java-enabled.

no it isn't.

Use a product like No
Script and you can control it, but you will not be able to read/watch
a lot of what is out there.

that's for java *script*, not java.