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Earth Photography: It's Harder Than It Looks
Eric Stevens wrote:
On 22 Mar 2012 18:49:00 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote: Eric Stevens wrote: (Ray Fischer) wrote: Without the quotes, I don't see any relevant. Maybe you should be specific instead of spouting your usual denier bull****. Maybe you should try doing some research yourself. Done that. Once again you are unable to justify your claims with cites. You are a hopeless idiot. That's not a cite. -- Ray Fischer | None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. | Goethe |
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Earth Photography: It's Harder Than It Looks
Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote: Eric Stevens wrote: (Ray Fischer) wrote: Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: Ray Fischer wrote: Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: Ray Fischer wrote: Eric Stevens wrote: Read Donna Laframboise's book. Why? You are the one making claims. YOU are the one who cannot support any of your claims. Refusal to read the support presented noted. Calling it "support" doesn't make it so, denier. Refusing to read it before denying it makes you an idiot. Refusing to read a work of fiction makes me an idiot? How do know it is fiction? How do you know it's fact? *You* claimed categorucally that it is fiction, so *you* have to You basically just exist to be an argumentative asshole, don't you? -- Ray Fischer | None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. | Goethe |
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Earth Photography: It's Harder Than It Looks
Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote: Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: Ray Fischer wrote: Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: Ray Fischer wrote: Eric Stevens wrote: Read Donna Laframboise's book. Why? You are the one making claims. YOU are the one who cannot support any of your claims. Refusal to read the support presented noted. Calling it "support" doesn't make it so, denier. Refusing to read it before denying it makes you an idiot. Refusing to read a work of fiction makes me an idiot? So why do you want us to believe in the work of fiction called "global warming is man-made and ongoing"? The alternative is to insist that thousands of the world's scientists in dozens of nations are all part of a vast conspiracy so clever that denier lunatics have never been able to find any proof for it. And refusing to deal with facts makes you smart? Facts are *supposed* to be grounded in reality, Apparently not for you. -- Ray Fischer | None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. | Goethe |
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Earth Photography: It's Harder Than It Looks
Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote: Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: Ray Fischer wrote: Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: Ray Fischer wrote: That's the "mind" of the crazy denier at work. I am sorry your mad cow disease disabled you so much you cannot look up "climate" and "temperature" in any dictionary --- much less compare them. The stupid denier tries to justify his stupidity with a bizarre non sequitur, all in order to promote his bizarre conspiracy nonsense. Ray Fisher is drunk. Again. Awww! The lilttle asshole is pouting! Poor baby! Awww, the drunkard is denying that he's drunk again. And I bet that you're going to deny that you're a child molester. -- Ray Fischer | None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. | Goethe |
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Earth Photography: It's Harder Than It Looks
Eric Stevens wrote:
On 22 Mar 2012 18:51:57 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote: Eric Stevens wrote: (Ray Fischer) wrote: Eric Stevens wrote: (Ray Fischer) wrote: Eric Stevens wrote: (Ray Fischer) wrote: Robert Coe wrote: On 20 Mar 2012 18:19:43 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote: : Eric Stevens wrote: : (Ray Fischer) wrote: : Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: : : So the global cooling was manmade? : : Yes. And it was temporary. : : That's interesting. How was it manmade? : : Air pollution. : : For somebody who claims to know so much about climate change you : really are disgustingly ignorant of even the most basic facts. Air pollution?? Ray, do you have any concept of how long an ice age lasts and of the size of the human population and the state of its civilization at the beginning of the most recent one? Yes. Are you babbling irrelevant nonsense because yo're being paid by Big Oil to push disinformation and propaganda? We know that humans didn't cause the ice ages, because they could not possibly have done so. So what? The "extinction event" that is thought (by those scientists whose opinions you worship) to have killed off the dinosaurs was an ice age of sorts, You mean when an asteroid caused massive amounts of dust to be thrown up into the atmosphere, causing worldwide cooling? Kind of like the pollution that caused cooling 40 years ago? Try looking up the role of the Deccan Traps in that extinction. Are you crazy or stupid? You're whining about events that happened millions of years ago because you can't deal with the present? Evade, evade, evade. Notice that the denier can't even explain his own little whining, cvan't provide facts, can't provide cites for his claims, can't even justify his absurd conspiracy nonsense. Which denier and what particular claims are you talking about? "Evade, evade, evade." True, that's what you do "I know you are but what am I?" Grow up. -- Ray Fischer | None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. | Goethe |
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Earth Photography: It's Harder Than It Looks
Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote: Eric Stevens wrote: (Ray Fischer) wrote: Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: So the global cooling was manmade? Yes. And it was temporary. That's interesting. How was it manmade? Air pollution. For somebody who claims to know so much about climate change you really are disgustingly ignorant of even the most basic facts. So you say there has been a really bad global cooling all through the industrialization? Are you illiterate or a liar? -- Ray Fischer | None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. | Goethe |
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Earth Photography: It's Harder Than It Looks
Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote:
Ray Fischer wrote: Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: Ray Fischer wrote: George Kerby wrote: wrote: On 3/18/2012 4:44 PM, George Kerby wrote: wrote: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global_cooling [...] I don't know what you consider a "Scientific Community", but just run a Google on Climate Cooling and target things written between 73 - 78, when the Earth was experiencing it's last cycle of cooling. It was everywhere. In all the major magazines, news sources, etc. At that time people were proclaiming another "Ice Age", maybe you were too young to remember? It's all in the link you posted. Ergo my post. A rambling, bizarre post which doesn't appear to make any sense. Of course it doesn't make any sense *to* *you*, because global cooling fears (oh so similar to current global warming fears) don't make sense to a "manmade global warming" fanatic. You don't live in the real world, do you? Disc-World? Where trees have mercury thermometers and elves recording the readings? The best you can do is to whine about these silly strawmen? -- Ray Fischer | None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free. | Goethe |
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Earth Photography: It's Harder Than It Looks
On 19 Mar 2012 02:25:09 GMT, (Ray Fischer) wrote:
Eric Stevens wrote: (Ray Fischer) wrote: Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: Martin Brown wrote: On 13/03/2012 14:20, Wolfgang Weisselberg wrote: Ray wrote: Wolfgang wrote: we've neither temperature data from the middle ages nor from the time when Rome ruled the Earth and Romans grew wine in England. Actually we do have indirect proxy data for some local and also global temperatures in the Middle Ages based on isotope ratios locked into tree rings, stalagmites and certain very slow growing sea corals. It isn't as good as actual measurements but it is still good evidence. It's rough climate data at best. Temperature data isn't temperature data. That's the "mind" of the crazy denier at work. Say after me: Proxy data isn't temperature data. Yes, denier, it is. Here is some proxy data for you. http://www.theregister.co.uk/2012/03...ce_age_global/ "global warming has already occurred in historical, pre-industrial times, and then gone away again."" Repeating a lie won't make it true. Unfortunately it tends to make it believable. Regards, Eric Stevens |
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