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Old August 20th 09, 08:06 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Fotoguy[_2_]
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On Wed, 19 Aug 2009 16:40:04 -0700, wrote:

looking for some input/suggestions on buying new pc.

im shooting with the 5d mark II ,raw files are big around 25 the mb
region
my current specs are below .

machine is slowing a bit around 1 1/2 yr old looking to upgrade to a new
one .

INTEL PENTIUM 4 3.20 GHZ
NVDIA GEFORCE 7800 GS
200 GG HD ATA
4 GB RAM
WINDOWS XP PRO
GATEWAY 24 IN HD MONITOR
calabrated with the xrite pro


I have a friend (He uses a Mark II, also, and works with full res RAW
files) who is looking to upgrade because his 2 year old system has become
too slow, too, and it's a 2.8 GHz Intel Dual Core, 4 MB RAM, and a couple
fast SATA drives running 32-bit Vista (Pro or Ultimate??, but definitely
not a Home version). The display is a wide format 24" LG 1920 x 1200
flat panel. He custom built the system, and all components are Vista
compliant. Oh, and in case you're wondering why 32-bit Vista instead of
64? At the time he built it, there were few, if any, 64-bit drivers,
plugins, applications, etc. available. It's a little better, now, but
not much.

We have done everything to optimize the system for speed. He's even done
a complete reinstall of the OS (and all apps) three times over two years
when the system just became too slow and nothing else helped.

Well, after a lot of research, he's finally decided on the new system: A
Mac; specifically, a 15" Macbook Pro running Snow Leopard. (He wants to
be portable instead of tied to a desktop.) He said he did actual timed
tests with his own files on a new Macbook Pro with 4GB RAM and a 2.8 GHZ
CPU, but running Leopard, and it ran rings around his current PC and not
by a little, but by a lot. He said he was amazed at the speed.
Everything happened almost instantaneously. Snow Leopard is purported to
be even faster.

Food for thought.


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Old August 21st 09, 08:33 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Mark
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"Fotoguy" wrote in message
...
I have a friend (He uses a Mark II, also, and works with full res
RAW
files) who is looking to upgrade because his 2 year old system has
become
too slow, too, and it's a 2.8 GHz Intel Dual Core, 4 MB RAM, and a
couple
fast SATA drives running 32-bit Vista (Pro or Ultimate??, but
definitely
not a Home version). The display is a wide format 24" LG 1920 x
1200
flat panel. He custom built the system, and all components are
Vista
compliant. Oh, and in case you're wondering why 32-bit Vista
instead of
64? At the time he built it, there were few, if any, 64-bit
drivers,
plugins, applications, etc. available. It's a little better, now,
but
not much.

We have done everything to optimize the system for speed. He's even
done
a complete reinstall of the OS (and all apps) three times over two
years
when the system just became too slow and nothing else helped.

Well, after a lot of research, he's finally decided on the new
system: A
Mac; specifically, a 15" Macbook Pro running Snow Leopard. (He
wants to
be portable instead of tied to a desktop.) He said he did actual
timed
tests with his own files on a new Macbook Pro with 4GB RAM and a 2.8
GHZ
CPU, but running Leopard, and it ran rings around his current PC and
not
by a little, but by a lot. He said he was amazed at the speed.
Everything happened almost instantaneously. Snow Leopard is
purported to
be even faster.

Food for thought.


If the system was fine before then all of a sudden "became too slow
and nothing else helped", there most certainly is something that is
being overlooked.


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Old August 23rd 09, 12:22 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Fotoguy[_2_]
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On Fri, 21 Aug 2009 14:33:22 -0500, Mark wrote:

"Fotoguy" wrote in message
...
I have a friend (He uses a Mark II, also, and works with full res RAW
files) who is looking to upgrade because his 2 year old system has
become
too slow, too, and it's a 2.8 GHz Intel Dual Core, 4 MB RAM, and a
couple
fast SATA drives running 32-bit Vista (Pro or Ultimate??, but
definitely
not a Home version). The display is a wide format 24" LG 1920 x 1200
flat panel. He custom built the system, and all components are Vista
compliant. Oh, and in case you're wondering why 32-bit Vista instead
of
64? At the time he built it, there were few, if any, 64-bit drivers,
plugins, applications, etc. available. It's a little better, now, but
not much.

We have done everything to optimize the system for speed. He's even
done
a complete reinstall of the OS (and all apps) three times over two
years
when the system just became too slow and nothing else helped.

Well, after a lot of research, he's finally decided on the new system:
A
Mac; specifically, a 15" Macbook Pro running Snow Leopard. (He wants
to
be portable instead of tied to a desktop.) He said he did actual timed
tests with his own files on a new Macbook Pro with 4GB RAM and a 2.8
GHZ
CPU, but running Leopard, and it ran rings around his current PC and
not
by a little, but by a lot. He said he was amazed at the speed.
Everything happened almost instantaneously. Snow Leopard is purported
to
be even faster.

Food for thought.


If the system was fine before then all of a sudden "became too slow and
nothing else helped", there most certainly is something that is being
overlooked.


It didn't happen "...all of a sudden." It repeatedly happened slowly
over periods of 6 months or so until the degradation was readily
apparent. Microsoft tech support was contacted, and they weren't able to
offer any suggestion that hadn't already been tried. They had no idea
what was causing the slowdown. (I do. It was Windows behaving normally
just like it has for 20 years.)

So, the system now is about 2.5 years old with 3 complete, clean system
and application installs under its belt--the last just a month or so ago--
and is running nominally, again, but is still dog slow compared to the
performance of an equivalently configured Macbook Pro. At least,
according to my friend, and I don't doubt his evaluation.

Perhaps Windows 7 will be the OS that Vista was suppose to be, but I
doubt it. Windows has always been a resource hog. In any case, my
friend is fed up, and it seems that Microsoft has lost another loyal
Windows user.


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Fotoguy
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"Personalized digital camera recommendations"
http://www.bestinclass.com/digital-cameras
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Old August 26th 09, 12:52 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Mark
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Default suggestions on upgrading to a new pc


"Fotoguy" wrote in message
...
It didn't happen "...all of a sudden." It repeatedly happened slowly
over periods of 6 months or so until the degradation was readily
apparent. Microsoft tech support was contacted, and they weren't able to
offer any suggestion that hadn't already been tried. They had no idea
what was causing the slowdown. (I do. It was Windows behaving normally
just like it has for 20 years.)

So, the system now is about 2.5 years old with 3 complete, clean system
and application installs under its belt--the last just a month or so
ago--
and is running nominally, again, but is still dog slow compared to the
performance of an equivalently configured Macbook Pro. At least,
according to my friend, and I don't doubt his evaluation.

Perhaps Windows 7 will be the OS that Vista was suppose to be, but I
doubt it. Windows has always been a resource hog. In any case, my
friend is fed up, and it seems that Microsoft has lost another loyal
Windows user.


This is most probably not an OS issue, there is something else bogging down
the system. Run MS's free Process Explorer to see what is using up the
pc's resources and cpu cycles. Your statement "It was Windows behaving
normally..." is totally ridiculous. We still have 5 XP machines each
running over 5 years with no reinstalls doing video editing with Sony Vegas
and CyberLink PowerDirector, plus photo editing/management with Photoshop
CS3 and ACDSee Pro 2.5 plus run a multitude of other apps.

That said, there have been issues with hard drives requiring their
replacement and full image restore from backups. And, the native Windows
defrag is not very good so we use Ultimate Defrag to speed up the disk
accesses which is especially problematic after writing/modifying 10 to
200GB+ file sizes. Plus, some 3rd party apps have caused performance
issues. I can certainly see why some ppl would prefer to use Macs and I do
recommend same to some that have no PC/Win experience nor have a need to
run the rich set of available PC apps - and indeed troubleshooting problems
on a PC/Win platform can be difficult so the Mac may win there, too. Both
the PC and Mac platforms are reasonably solid as can be considering all
that which users try to put them through.


 




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