Aperture's Future

I am sure that this has been discussed in these groups before because it
covers them both. For you photographers that use OSX and you Mac people who
are photo buffs is the reason for the cross-post, for the rest, I apologize
if the cross-post offends.

I have stayed with OSX 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion) because I felt I had no reason
to update for several reasons, among them the flat graphics that I dislike
and the exclusion of CoverFlow in later iTunes. This was no problem for
years until this year where my Safari became undesirable for several sites I
visited, epically those financial. I was repeatedly told to update and
upgrade my browser. Seems the only way to do so was to change the whole OS
to the most recent, 10.11.x (El Capitan).

After updating my MacPro OS to the latest, I found that my professional
photo software, Aperture 3.4.5 that I purchased on disc for over $225 was
now USELESS and FUBAR. Well, that was just wonderful, since I had several
years worth of work for both myself and clients stored in the Aperture
folder there. To wit:

When I tried to open Aperture, I was told that the only way that I could get
something compatible with 10.11 was thru the App Store. When I clicked on
the button to take me there, I was informed that Aperture 3.6 was not
available in US App Store. I see there aren't any DVD upgrades offered
anywhere, so I feel that I have been bamboozled with no way out. I cannot
covert those files in the Aperture folder because the Program will not
function under the new OS.

So, folks, anyone have any workarounds? Any backdoor approaches to get my
files? Hell, I would even try pirate software - just to recover my work. I
am REALLY miffed that Apple would do this to their first believers: Artists,
photographers and filmmakers, among others that are left with no way out!

Again, looking forward to ANY positive suggestions, and thanks for the time
- since that has gotten rather lengthily!!

On 2016-08-13 21:10:55 +0000, George Kerby said:

I am sure that this has been discussed in these groups before because it
covers them both. For you photographers that use OSX and you Mac people who
are photo buffs is the reason for the cross-post, for the rest, I apologize
if the cross-post offends.

I have stayed with OSX 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion) because I felt I had no reason
to update for several reasons, among them the flat graphics that I dislike
and the exclusion of CoverFlow in later iTunes. This was no problem for
years until this year where my Safari became undesirable for several sites I
visited, epically those financial. I was repeatedly told to update and
upgrade my browser. Seems the only way to do so was to change the whole OS
to the most recent, 10.11.x (El Capitan).

OK! So far so good, especially since ML has gotten a little long in the tooth.

After updating my MacPro OS to the latest, I found that my professional
photo software, Aperture 3.4.5 that I purchased on disc for over $225 was
now USELESS and FUBAR. Well, that was just wonderful, since I had several
years worth of work for both myself and clients stored in the Aperture
folder there. To wit:

Have you not been paying attention regarding the end of life (EoL)
notices for Aperture which have been quite prominent for 2+ years?

When I tried to open Aperture, I was told that the only way that I could get
something compatible with 10.11 was thru the App Store. When I clicked on
the button to take me there, I was informed that Aperture 3.6 was not
available in US App Store. I see there aren't any DVD upgrades offered
anywhere, so I feel that I have been bamboozled with no way out. I cannot
covert those files in the Aperture folder because the Program will not
function under the new OS.

So, folks, anyone have any workarounds? Any backdoor approaches to get my
files? Hell, I would even try pirate software - just to recover my work. I
am REALLY miffed that Apple would do this to their first believers: Artists,
photographers and filmmakers, among others that are left with no way out!

Adobe provided an escape route with Lightroom, but I am not sure how
well it will work nor that you have left things long enough to reach
disaster level.

If you don't want to go with the $9.99/month Adobe CC program which
gives you both Photoshop CC and Lightroom CC, consider buying Lightroom
6.
http://landing.adobe.com/en/na/products/creative-cloud/54511-aperture-switcher.html

This

was written in 2015 when everybody first learned the grim news and your
choices were LR 5, or LR CC, everything applies to LR6 and/or LR CC.
http://lightroomkillertips.com/moving-images-aperture-now-built-right-lightroom/

Other

stuff:
https://apertureexporter.com
https://athomewithtech.com/2016/01/10/how-to-switch-from-aperture-to-lightroom-6/

This

isn't going to help too much as you are already holding funeral rites
for Aperture. ...but who knows?
https://apertureexporter.com/content/step-step-process-get-photos-aperture-lightroom-cc6-using-aperture-exporter

Again,

looking forward to ANY positive suggestions, and thanks for the time
- since that has gotten rather lengthily!!


--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 2016-08-13 21:37:17 +0000, RichA said:

On Saturday, 13 August 2016 17:11:08 UTC-4, George Kerby wrote:


After updating my MacPro OS to the latest, I found that my professional
photo software, Aperture 3.4.5 that I purchased on disc for over $225 was
now USELESS and FUBAR.

Apple...

So, folks, anyone have any workarounds?

Leave Apple.

Idiot!
--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 2016-08-13 21:40:17 +0000, Savageduck said:

On 2016-08-13 21:10:55 +0000, George Kerby said:

I am sure that this has been discussed in these groups before because it
covers them both. For you photographers that use OSX and you Mac people who
are photo buffs is the reason for the cross-post, for the rest, I apologize
if the cross-post offends.

I have stayed with OSX 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion) because I felt I had no reason
to update for several reasons, among them the flat graphics that I dislike
and the exclusion of CoverFlow in later iTunes. This was no problem for
years until this year where my Safari became undesirable for several sites I
visited, epically those financial. I was repeatedly told to update and
upgrade my browser. Seems the only way to do so was to change the whole OS
to the most recent, 10.11.x (El Capitan).

OK! So far so good, especially since ML has gotten a little long in the tooth.

After updating my MacPro OS to the latest, I found that my professional
photo software, Aperture 3.4.5 that I purchased on disc for over $225 was
now USELESS and FUBAR. Well, that was just wonderful, since I had several
years worth of work for both myself and clients stored in the Aperture
folder there. To wit:

Have you not been paying attention regarding the end of life (EoL)
notices for Aperture which have been quite prominent for 2+ years?

When I tried to open Aperture, I was told that the only way that I could get
something compatible with 10.11 was thru the App Store. When I clicked on
the button to take me there, I was informed that Aperture 3.6 was not
available in US App Store. I see there aren't any DVD upgrades offered
anywhere, so I feel that I have been bamboozled with no way out. I cannot
covert those files in the Aperture folder because the Program will not
function under the new OS.

So, folks, anyone have any workarounds? Any backdoor approaches to get my
files? Hell, I would even try pirate software - just to recover my work. I
am REALLY miffed that Apple would do this to their first believers: Artists,
photographers and filmmakers, among others that are left with no way out!

Adobe provided an escape route with Lightroom, but I am not sure how
well it will work nor that you have left things long enough to reach
disaster level.

If you don't want to go with the $9.99/month Adobe CC program which
gives you both Photoshop CC and Lightroom CC, consider buying Lightroom
6.
http://landing.adobe.com/en/na/products/creative-cloud/54511-aperture-switcher.html

This

was written in 2015 when everybody first learned the grim news and your
choices were LR 5, or LR CC, everything applies to LR6 and/or LR CC.
http://lightroomkillertips.com/moving-images-aperture-now-built-right-lightroom/

Other

stuff:
https://apertureexporter.com
https://athomewithtech.com/2016/01/10/how-to-switch-from-aperture-to-lightroom-6/

This

isn't going to help too much as you are already holding funeral rites
for Aperture. ...but who knows?
https://apertureexporter.com/content/step-step-process-get-photos-aperture-lightroom-cc6-using-aperture-exporter

Again,
looking

forward to ANY positive suggestions, and thanks for the time
- since that has gotten rather lengthily!!

Also:
https://9to5mac.com/2015/05/09/review-adobe-lightroom-cc-6/

--
Regards,

Savageduck

In article ,
RichA wrote:

After updating my MacPro OS to the latest, I found that my professional
photo software, Aperture 3.4.5 that I purchased on disc for over $225 was
now USELESS and FUBAR.

Apple...

it's not apple. it's pebkac.

3.4.5 is an outdated version, so it's no surprise that it won't work.

the current version is 3.6 and runs on el capitan and reportedly in
sierra betas.

however, apple announced that it's eol'ed, so it's time to migrate to
another app, such as lightroom.

On 2016-08-13, George Kerby wrote:

I have stayed with OSX 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion) because I felt I had no reason
to update for several reasons, among them the flat graphics that I dislike
and the exclusion of CoverFlow in later iTunes.

Seems silly to me to avoid modern versions simply because the appearance
has changed - especially considering how downright buggy 10.8 was
compared with 10.10+ and how many great new features have been added
since then, but whatever floats your boat, I guess.

This was no problem for years until this year where my Safari became
undesirable for several sites I visited, epically those financial. I
was repeatedly told to update and upgrade my browser. Seems the only
way to do so was to change the whole OS to the most recent, 10.11.x
(El Capitan).

Surely you could have installed the latest version of Firefox or another
third-party browser instead.

After updating my MacPro OS to the latest, I found that my
professional photo software, Aperture 3.4.5 that I purchased on disc
for over $225 was now USELESS and FUBAR. Well, that was just
wonderful, since I had several years worth of work for both myself and
clients stored in the Aperture folder there. To wit:

When I tried to open Aperture, I was told that the only way that I
could get something compatible with 10.11 was thru the App Store. When
I clicked on the button to take me there, I was informed that Aperture
3.6 was not available in US App Store. I see there aren't any DVD
upgrades offered anywhere, so I feel that I have been bamboozled with
no way out. I cannot covert those files in the Aperture folder because
the Program will not function under the new OS.

You must not apply updates very often. As others have said, you have had
*plenty* of warning, had you just paid attention. Aperture was
deprecated in 2014 and then discontinued in 2015. There have been
numerous threads about it in the Mac news groups during the past few
years as well.

So, folks, anyone have any workarounds? Any backdoor approaches to get my
files? Hell, I would even try pirate software - just to recover my work. I
am REALLY miffed that Apple would do this to their first believers: Artists,
photographers and filmmakers, among others that are left with no way out!

Again, looking forward to ANY positive suggestions, and thanks for the time
- since that has gotten rather lengthily!!

Lightroom.

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JR

| So, folks, anyone have any workarounds?
|
| Leave Apple.
|
| Idiot!

It's hard to argue with his logic. The man paid
$225 for Apple software, which Apple couldn't be
bothered to provide backward compatibility for on
a system that's only 4 years old.
I'm still running Paint Shop Pro 5, which I'm sure
will run on Win10, despite being some 15 years
older. That's because the Windows API is
additive: System functions are added but not
broken. As long as a function was officially
documented as part of the API, it can be depended
upon to work. In 1995 or 2016. And PSP is 3rd-party
software. Breaking their own software on their own
system is inexcusable. On the other hand, George
Kerby must surely know what to expect from Apple
by now.

The solution with Apple is always the same:
Take the AppleSeed ring out of your nose or send
them a wheelbarrow full of money twice a year
to stay current with their capricious and
expensive scam.

Next month the AppleSeeds will all be buying
digital headphone jacks because Apple removed
the generic, analog audio jack and told them it's
no longer relevant. And they'll all thank Apple for
making them spend money, while scorning stupid
Windows people for still using analog headphones
that are immune to DRM restrictions. Go figure.

In article , Mayayana
wrote:

| So, folks, anyone have any workarounds?
|
| Leave Apple.
|
| Idiot!

It's hard to argue with his logic. The man paid
$225 for Apple software, which Apple couldn't be
bothered to provide backward compatibility for on
a system that's only 4 years old.

except that apple not only bothered to update it, but aperture
continues to work in the current version of macos, el capitan, well
past aperture's discontinuation a couple of years ago.

the problem is that he has an outdated version of aperture, 3.4.5, not
the current version, 3.6.

I'm still running Paint Shop Pro 5, which I'm sure
will run on Win10, despite being some 15 years
older. That's because the Windows API is
additive: System functions are added but not
broken. As long as a function was officially
documented as part of the API, it can be depended
upon to work. In 1995 or 2016. And PSP is 3rd-party
software. Breaking their own software on their own
system is inexcusable. On the other hand, George
Kerby must surely know what to expect from Apple
by now.

there's plenty of old windows apps that won't run on win7, nevermind
win10. in fact, i just ran into that a couple of weeks ago.

when win7 came out, a *lot* of stuff broke, particularly drivers.

The solution with Apple is always the same:
Take the AppleSeed ring out of your nose or send
them a wheelbarrow full of money twice a year
to stay current with their capricious and
expensive scam.

more bull****.

Next month the AppleSeeds will all be buying
digital headphone jacks because Apple removed
the generic, analog audio jack and told them it's
no longer relevant. And they'll all thank Apple for
making them spend money, while scorning stupid
Windows people for still using analog headphones
that are immune to DRM restrictions. Go figure.

apple isn't the first company that didn't use a standard headphone jack
and it has nothing whatsoever to do with drm.

the entire industry (not just apple) is moving to newer and better
standards, namely wireless headsets and digital wired headphones,
because they provide a lot of advantages versus a 100 year old analog
connector.

as usual, the haters always bitch about apple when other companies do
exactly the same thing:

http://www.theverge.com/2016/6/10/11...o-headphone-ja
ck
Lenovo has decided that its 2016 flagship Android smartphone doesn't
need a 3.5mm headphone jack. Neither the*Moto Z nor its slightly
thicker, slightly better Moto Z Force variant offers an analog audio
port, though both come with a USB-C adapter in the box.

http://www.theverge.com/2016/4/20/11...one-electric-c
ar-usbc-headphones
...LeEco's Le 2, Le 2 Pro, and Le Max 2 all come jack-less and instead
only allow for USB Type-C digital headphones. Oh, you don't have
USB-C headphones, you say? LeEco just released two pairs of those,
too! I told you, totally prepared for the future.

while usb-c headphones may be new, non-standard headphone jacks
definitely are not.

back in 2008, the t-mobile g1 had a proprietary headphone jack, as did
other htc phones:
https://www.engadget.com/2008/09/23/...-has-no-3-5mm-
headphone-jack/
Like many recent HTCs (Touch HD notably excepted), the G1 eschews a
standard 3.5mm headphone jack for its proprietary ExtUSB connector,
meaning you'll need custom headphones or an adapter to plug in your
own. What's worse, the adapter won't be available immediately at
launch, just a bundled headset. Why, HTC? Why?

and going back even further, non-standard headphone jacks were *very*
common with flip and candybar phones, whether it was a 2.5mm trs jack
or a custom connector.

sony ericsson phones had a dock-style connector on the bottom for
charging, headphones and/or usb, which means you couldn't do more than
one at the same time unless you have an adapter that supported it.

https://www.amazon.com/Headset-Adapt...ter/dp/B000LMB
JMA
https://www.amazon.com/Hands-Free-He...-Ericsson/dp/B
001J4XPE4/

On Sat, 13 Aug 2016 19:53:41 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote:

I'm still running Paint Shop Pro 5, which I'm sure
will run on Win10, despite being some 15 years
older. That's because the Windows API is
additive: System functions are added but not
broken. As long as a function was officially
documented as part of the API, it can be depended
upon to work. In 1995 or 2016.

This is absolutely not true. I am always very surprised when my older
software works from one version of Windows to the next. Cool Edit 2000
might be my only software that has continued to work through the
years, and it is certainly the only audio/music software that has.

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On Saturday, 13 August 2016 16:10 -0500,
in article ,
George Kerby wrote:

I am sure that this has been discussed in these groups before
because it covers them both. For you photographers that use OSX and
you Mac people who are photo buffs is the reason for the cross-post,
for the rest, I apologize if the cross-post offends.

I have stayed with OSX 10.8.5 (Mountain Lion) because I felt I had
no reason to update for several reasons, among them the flat
graphics that I dislike and the exclusion of CoverFlow in later
iTunes. This was no problem for years until this year where my
Safari became undesirable for several sites I visited, epically
those financial. I was repeatedly told to update and upgrade my
browser. Seems the only way to do so was to change the whole OS to
the most recent, 10.11.x (El Capitan).

After updating my MacPro OS to the latest, I found that my
professional photo software, Aperture 3.4.5 that I purchased on disc
for over $225 was now USELESS and FUBAR. Well, that was just
wonderful, since I had several years worth of work for both myself
and clients stored in the Aperture folder there. To wit:

When I tried to open Aperture, I was told that the only way that I
could get something compatible with 10.11 was thru the App Store.
When I clicked on the button to take me there, I was informed that
Aperture 3.6 was not available in US App Store. I see there aren't
any DVD upgrades offered anywhere, so I feel that I have been
bamboozled with no way out. I cannot covert those files in the
Aperture folder because the Program will not function under the new
OS.

Aperture 3.6 still runs under OS X 10.11.6. Too bad you never
bothered to update to it, while it was easy and straight forward.
Still, not all may be lost.

https://support.apple.com/en-us/HT203265
https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8402
https://discussions.apple.com/docs/DOC-8431
https://photoapps.expert/forum/getting-aperture-351-36/14485

When and if you're able to get Aperture running, it may be a good time
to think about its future, as it's not likely to be a long one.

- --
David Ritz
Be kind to animals; kiss a shark.

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