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Old June 7th 06, 04:31 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Celcius wrote:
Hi everyone!

Why is the sky washed out while my wife with a point and shoot gets blue
skys?
It seems to me the sky was quite blue when I took this photo:
http://celestart.com/images/publiques/15.jpg

Any ideas? Recommendations?

Thanks,

Marcel

As others have said the sky is over exposed

learn to always shoot raw, you will be much happier, I would be very
surprised is the raw file of the exact shoot could not pull out a nice
looking blue sky.

In cases of a bright background, and many other hard lighting cases,
you can bracket to good effect.

Since the XT can take a jpeg file at the same time it does a raw you
can easily do some test taking the same type of shot and checking to
see how much better the image from the raw file can be compared to the
jpeg the camera produces.

Scott

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Old June 7th 06, 04:44 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Careful use of a graduated neutral density filter might help getting good
color in the sky. What you need to do is cut down on the exposure of the
sky while leaving everything else alone.
Jim
"Pat" wrote in message
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The posts re the overexposed sky are generally correct. You can either
under expose or play with it in photoshop and fix it. Both are
perfectly good alternatives. Shooting in RAW might help, but RAW isn't
the cure-all than many people think.

I am "old school" so take my advice accordingly. If you are taking
lots of pictures like that and want the sky to look better, keep the
sky from overexposing in the first place and everything after that is
much easier. The way to do that is to invest in a polarizing filter.
That will allow you to darken a sky like that (plus keep interesting
details in it) without underexposing the rest of the image. It will
also cut out most glare that you encounter.

For an autofocus lens, you want a "circular polarizer" (don't ask why,
it's a long story, you just want one).

People in this group hate filters and they hate people who don't shoot
in RAW, but really, a filter is the answer. That's the way we did it
back in "the day" when we used that stuff called film.

Good luck with it.

Pat



Celcius wrote:
Hi everyone!

Why is the sky washed out while my wife with a point and shoot gets blue
skys?
It seems to me the sky was quite blue when I took this photo:
http://celestart.com/images/publiques/15.jpg

Any ideas? Recommendations?

Thanks,

Marcel




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Old June 7th 06, 05:12 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Celcius wrote:


"Daniel Silevitch" wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 09:22:04 -0400, Celcius wrote:
Hi everyone!

Why is the sky washed out while my wife with a point and shoot gets
blue skys?
It seems to me the sky was quite blue when I took this photo:
http://celestart.com/images/publiques/15.jpg

Any ideas? Recommendations?


The sky is over-exposed; basically, it's so bright that the camera
sensor is saturating and just sees it as "white". You needed to tell the
camera to take in less light, either by using a faster shutter speed or
by stopping down the lens. Depending on the features your camera has,
there are a variety of ways of doing that.

-dms


Sorry Daniel, I forgot to say. I have a Canon Rebel XT and the lens I used
was a Canon EF-S 17-85mm 1 4.5-5.6 IS USM
Regards,
Marcel


Canon's have poor exposure latitude. You will have to underexpose every shot
to prevent blowout.

Experiment until you find the best compromise.

--
George Fritschmann III
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Old June 7th 06, 05:19 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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"Ed Ruf" wrote in message
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On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 09:22:04 -0400, in rec.photo.digital "Celcius"
wrote:

Hi everyone!

Why is the sky washed out while my wife with a point and shoot gets blue
skys?
It seems to me the sky was quite blue when I took this photo:
http://celestart.com/images/publiques/15.jpg

Any ideas? Recommendations?


First guess would be improper white balance. The exif info in the
photo says the camera was set to manual WB. So, exactly how did you
set it? If you're just beginning start with auto WB of set the proper
preset for the scene at hand, such as sunny for this scene.
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Ed,
My was st at "sunny"
Marcel


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Old June 7th 06, 05:23 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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"Pat" wrote in message
ups.com...
The posts re the overexposed sky are generally correct. You can either
under expose or play with it in photoshop and fix it. Both are
perfectly good alternatives. Shooting in RAW might help, but RAW isn't
the cure-all than many people think.

I am "old school" so take my advice accordingly. If you are taking
lots of pictures like that and want the sky to look better, keep the
sky from overexposing in the first place and everything after that is
much easier. The way to do that is to invest in a polarizing filter.
That will allow you to darken a sky like that (plus keep interesting
details in it) without underexposing the rest of the image. It will
also cut out most glare that you encounter.

For an autofocus lens, you want a "circular polarizer" (don't ask why,
it's a long story, you just want one).

People in this group hate filters and they hate people who don't shoot
in RAW, but really, a filter is the answer. That's the way we did it
back in "the day" when we used that stuff called film.

Good luck with it.

Pat

Thanks Pat.
I tried with my polarizing filter and it turned a tad better. However, the
sky was still ooverexposed ;-(
I can't try again now because it's overcast... we're getting rain soon ...
Marcel


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Old June 7th 06, 06:44 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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King Sardon wrote:
On 7 Jun 2006 08:06:03 -0700, "Pat"
wrote:
A polarizing filter will help little with a hazy sky, and the picture
shows a hazy sky.

KS


It shows an overexposed sky. The original poster also says it was blue;
so it's probably just overexposed, not hazy.
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Old June 7th 06, 07:06 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Hi,

I tried with my polarizing filter and it turned a tad better.
However, the sky was still ooverexposed ;-( I can't try again now
because it's overcast... we're getting rain soon ...


I don't think any filter will help another way you couldn't achieve
using only your camera. You just need less light, that is a
smaller aperture or a shorter shutter time.

I suggest next time you give it a try with various exposure settings,
ranging from -2 ... +2 compensation and take images simultaneously as
jpeg and RAW. Then have a look on the computer and judge which is best
so you'll know for the next time which way to go. After all: taking an
image more doesn't cost a single cent. Just be sure to delete the
unworthy pictures.

From my experience there is a lot more to raw data than jpeg, especially
if the light situation is difficult: you can safely alter exposure by
+/-2 levels on the computer. The backdraw is that it requires a lot of
time afterwards.

Best regards,
Ingoo
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Old June 7th 06, 07:32 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On 7 Jun 2006 08:06:03 -0700, "Pat"
wrote:

The way to do that is to invest in a polarizing filter.
That will allow you to darken a sky like that (plus keep interesting
details in it) without underexposing the rest of the image. It will
also cut out most glare that you encounter.


A polarizing filter will help little with a hazy sky, and the picture
shows a hazy sky.

KS
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Old June 7th 06, 08:01 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Scott W wrote:
Celcius wrote:
Hi everyone!

Why is the sky washed out while my wife with a point and shoot gets blue
skys?
It seems to me the sky was quite blue when I took this photo:
http://celestart.com/images/publiques/15.jpg

Any ideas? Recommendations?

Thanks,

Marcel

As others have said the sky is over exposed

learn to always shoot raw, you will be much happier, I would be very
surprised is the raw file of the exact shoot could not pull out a nice
looking blue sky.

In cases of a bright background, and many other hard lighting cases,
you can bracket to good effect.

Since the XT can take a jpeg file at the same time it does a raw you
can easily do some test taking the same type of shot and checking to
see how much better the image from the raw file can be compared to the
jpeg the camera produces.


But that's well after the fact. There's but one review on the camera,
and I suggest concentrating on the histogram. Also, the blinking sky in
the review would be a big hint.

Bracketing in RAW gives incredible latitude. Even a single RAW image can
be developed in, say, two different ways, one for the house, and one for
the sky. Then you can layer the two, mask one, and paint on the mask to
reveal the bottom layer.

--
John McWilliams
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Old June 7th 06, 10:27 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 19:44:18 +0200, acl
wrote:

King Sardon wrote:
On 7 Jun 2006 08:06:03 -0700, "Pat"
wrote:
A polarizing filter will help little with a hazy sky, and the picture
shows a hazy sky.

KS


It shows an overexposed sky. The original poster also says it was blue;
so it's probably just overexposed, not hazy.


If it was a clear blue sky, it would not be overexposed.

KS
 




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