Nikon D200 vs. D80

Joan wrote:
You arrogant pig!

Sock of "Rita"! Top posting antipodean!

Not that there's anything wrong with the latter, but it's ironic that
you post upside down.....

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Here is a useful link comparing the D80 with the D200. I bought my D200 in
July after reading all of the information on Ken Rockwell's site. I'm still
happy with my D200 purchase even after reading the comparisons.

http://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d80/vs-d200.htm

"W Chan" wrote in message
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the key attraction of d200 is the faster shutter spead and higher fps,
these
are good features for sports /fast action photography.. i think .

i agree with the investment in lenses as they tend to last longer and a
key
part in getting quality images. cam body does change every 12-18mths...
d200
is a baby d2x, and d80 is a baby d200..

i think nikon is taking advantage of existing expertise, reorganize the
features/functionalities from this/that models and mass produce them... i
think even the retail price of d80 has come down a fair bit but with so
many
features from its peers... , the actual profit margin of d80 may be
higher... (less costs on research and development on new/breakthru
applications.)

i will wait i see a sample d80 and try it and compare. stores shud hv the
camera this week...(in canada).

thks 4 many of your inputs..

w.
"[BnH]" b18[at]ii[dot]net wrote in message
...
: My friend just sent me samples of shots at ISO 800, 1600 and even 3200
and
I
: think they are excellent.
: Nikon is really doing their homework to suppress the noise level.
:
: Its ISO 800 are comparable to D70 ISO 200 imho.
:
: If you don't have ancient collectible and useful AI/s lenses, don't
bother
: and save yourself $500 and grab the D80.
: Its the baby D200 and can do almost all the D200 can do.
:
:
: "W Chan" wrote in message
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: I suppose they are in different class targeting different customers.
: However I look at the specs. and find the D80 is really catching up.
:
: I have just sold my D70 to upgrade my gears.
:
: What do you think?
:
: w.
:
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:
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"James P. Clark" wrote in message
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Here is a useful link comparing the D80 with the D200. I bought my
D200 in July after reading all of the information on Ken Rockwell's
site. I'm still happy with my D200 purchase even after reading the
comparisons.

No offence, but how about posting a link to a site with accurate
information?

Rockwell is the joke of the professional community.

His so-called "review" is full of misinformation and bias. I'm
guessing from the garbage he spews out about technical details and
features of the D80 (too many to list here) that he hasn't bought it
and may not have used it at all like some of his other "reviews" where
he just makes it all up based on what he read elsewhere.

I can't stress this enough - DO NOT TRUST ROCKWELL.

The guy is full of sh!t (dare I say a liar?) and can not be trusted to
give an honest or even accurate review of any kind. All he seems to do
is post questionable info on his site with dozens of referrer links to
purchase equipment (HINT - if you click one of his links, he makes
money).

So if you want to read Rockwell, go ahead, but make sure you have a
LOT of salt handy to improve the flavour of his bullsh!t.

:-)

At the very least, try sites like these for more accurate reviews:

http://www.dpreview.com/articles/nikond80/ (just a preview so far)

http://www.dcresource.com/reviews/ni...ew/index.shtml

http://www.imaging-resource.com/PRODS/D80/D80A.HTM

http://www.letsgodigital.org/html/review/nikond80/

http://www.digitalreview.ca/cams/A100vsD80vsXTi.shtml (comparison)

Once you read up on the D80 and it's features, go back to Rockwell and
compare facts. At least he's good for some laughs.

And if you want personal input from users, try public forums or
newsgroups like this one.

In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Bill wrote:

"James P. Clark" wrote in message
...
Here is a useful link comparing the D80 with the D200. I bought my
D200 in July after reading all of the information on Ken Rockwell's
site. I'm still happy with my D200 purchase even after reading the
comparisons.

No offence, but how about posting a link to a site with accurate
information?

Rockwell is the joke of the professional community.


You are full of ****! Did you read the article? He did a direct comparison,
and any opinion stated in there is clearly his. As far as the article's
accuracy, it appears to be quite accurate. All stats are tabulated and
compared precisely. That link was indeed a decent post. Please keep your
agenda to yourself.

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In article ,
"Bill" wrote:


Rockwell is the joke of the professional community.


Once you read up on the D80 and it's features, go back to Rockwell and
compare facts. At least he's good for some laughs.

And if you want personal input from users, try public forums or
newsgroups like this one.

I was talking with someone the other day boasting to be a personal
friend of his, I thought "idiot" after much sputtering from him I was
convinced.

--
Would thou choose to meet a rat eating dragon, or
a dragon, eating rat? The answer of: I am somewhere
in the middle. "Me who is part taoist and part Christian".

Bill wrote:
"James P. Clark" wrote in message
...
Here is a useful link comparing the D80 with the D200. I bought my
D200 in July after reading all of the information on Ken Rockwell's
site. I'm still happy with my D200 purchase even after reading the
comparisons.

No offence, but how about posting a link to a site with accurate
information?

Rockwell is the joke of the professional community.

His so-called "review" is full of misinformation and bias.

Really? Show us one single mistake in his comparison.

"Thomas T. Veldhouse" wrote in message
.. .
In rec.photo.digital.slr-systems Bill wrote:

"James P. Clark" wrote in
message
...
Here is a useful link comparing the D80 with the D200. I bought my
D200 in July after reading all of the information on Ken
Rockwell's
site. I'm still happy with my D200 purchase even after reading the
comparisons.

No offence, but how about posting a link to a site with accurate
information?

Rockwell is the joke of the professional community.

You are full of ****!

I can't be...I went the bathroom earlier.

:-)

Did you read the article?

Of course, and I handled the D80 on the weekend, that's why I know his
so-called "review" is suspect.

Did you read it?

He did a direct comparison,
and any opinion stated in there is clearly his.

Opinions are fine, until they misguide innocent others looking for
good advice.

As far as the article's
accuracy, it appears to be quite accurate. All stats are tabulated
and
compared precisely. That link was indeed a decent post.

For comparison to see if you need the D200 over the D80, perhaps. But
there are factual errors, such as the sensor being the same as the
D200 (it is not), no mirror lockup (it has it), etc.

Please keep your agenda to yourself.

I fully admit I have an agenda - to help new people looking for honest
advice.

Ken Rockwell is a flake and I don't like to see people get misled by
his delusional reviews. Usually people learn quickly on their own that
he's not someone to trust for accurate or honest info. I like to give
them a head-start though.

Sorry if you're not happy about that, but thems the facts...

"cjcampbell" wrote in message
ps.com...

Bill wrote:
His so-called "review" is full of misinformation and bias.

Really? Show us one single mistake in his comparison.

Start at the top:

"D80 has the D200's 10 MP image sensor".

ACK....wrong.

"look, quality and color of the D200's images"

ACK...wrong.

Jump down to the first comparison list where he has side-by-side data
and you find more errors. Let's start at the third item in the list:

Weight 20 oz. (575g) [D80]

ACK...wrong.

Weight 29 oz. (825g) [D200]

ACK...wrong.

The rest you can find on your own...I don't time to find and
copy&paste everything that Rockwell posts incorrectly - I'd be sitting
here all week.

:-/

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 21:43:18 -0400, Pie Crust Bill wrote:

For comparison to see if you need the D200 over the D80, perhaps. But
there are factual errors, such as the sensor being the same as the
D200 (it is not), no mirror lockup (it has it), etc.

Didn't he say that they both had mirror lockup, but the D80's was
more limited, being that it was really just for sensor cleaning?
I'm not familiar with the differences between the sensors. If
they're significant enough to matter, what would they be?
Sensitivity? Speed? Power consumption? Something else?


I fully admit I have an agenda - to help new people looking for honest
advice.

Ken Rockwell is a flake and I don't like to see people get misled by
his delusional reviews. Usually people learn quickly on their own that
he's not someone to trust for accurate or honest info. I like to give
them a head-start though.

Your comments may have a different effect than the ones you
intended. Guess why?

On Wed, 20 Sep 2006 22:00:43 -0400, Bill wrote:

Really? Show us one single mistake in his comparison.

Start at the top:

"D80 has the D200's 10 MP image sensor".

ACK....wrong.

That's probably a clumsy way of saying that both sensors have 10
million pixels, not that they're identical.


Jump down to the first comparison list where he has side-by-side data
and you find more errors. Let's start at the third item in the list:

Weight 20 oz. (575g) [D80]

ACK...wrong.

Weight 29 oz. (825g) [D200]

ACK...wrong.

The rest you can find on your own...

Not long ago I posted the weights of many of the DSLRs from Canon
and Nikon, as given in dpreview.com's reviews. They differed from
the values of several Canon DSLRs as given by some of rpd's Canon
owners, but not by a tremendous amount. FWIW according to dpreview,
the weights of these two cameras without batteries are 585 g (1.3
lb) for the D80 and 830 g (1.8 lb) for the D200. Off by 10 grams
and 5 grams. You think that's a sufficient discrepancy to justify
calling Rockwell a flake and a liar? Sheesh. Take a look at
yourself before you cast out any more Persians.