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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame?
Hello harry,
He who is Paul said on Sat, 07 Oct 2017 00:36:41 -0400: It used to be a very good group. But nothing lasts forever. The good news is that I've gone through a steep learning curve where Shotcut does edit video. One thing I've learned the hard way, which I'm sure all experienced people already know, is that the better I take the input video the easier the editing will be. My test video was "jumpy" so I had to constantly get rid of stuff. Another thing I learned the hard way is that the one character you can not use in Shotcut to blank out text is the "space" character. It *looks* like it works when you're editing, but the output is *never* blanked out! If you use any other character than the space, what you see in editing is what you get in output - but if you use the space (which, logically, is what you'd first use), you get NOTHING redacted in the output. Go figure. These are lessons easily enough remembered - but hard learned. The good news is that Shotcut seems to pretty much do everything you will need in at least a rudimentary way - but it has a steep learning curve (IMHO). Now I'm going to start looking for a no-registration upload site for videos, and that will complete the loop for my first edited MP4 video from Android to Windows. Have you tried VideoPad Video Editor? |
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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame?
He who is Keith Keith said on Tue, 10 Oct 2017 11:10:33 +0000 (UTC):
The good news is that Shotcut seems to pretty much do everything you will need in at least a rudimentary way - but it has a steep learning curve (IMHO). Have you tried VideoPad Video Editor? I'm always open to suggestions as to the best freeware extant. So thanks for that idea. I'm testing it out now. http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/10/videopad.jpg Quick observations (which can change over time)... --------------------------------------------------- Here's the canonical site for others to benefit: VideoPad Video Editor http://www.nchsoftware.com/videopad/ "VideoPad Video Editor is a video editing application developed by NCH Software for the home and professional market. The software is complemented by the VirtualDub plug-ins that work with the software. VideoPad is part of a suite that integrates with other software created by NCH Software. This other software includes WavePad, a sound-editing program; MixPad, a sound-mixing program; and PhotoPad, an image editor" "A free video editor version is available for non-commercial use only." http://www.nchsoftware.com/videopad/vpsetup.exe It appears to be available for Mac, Windows, & Android. ------------------------------------------------------- The interface looks clean and simple and it seems to use VirtualDub plugins, but bear in mind a lot of the options are turned off in the freeware (so we have to see what works and what doesn't work). As I always maintain an observation log when I install software three oddities immediately struck me as quite different about VP. a. The installer defaulted to accepting the EULA (no big deal) b. The installer installed the program incredibly quickly (unusual) c. The installer exhibited other badly written hallmarks (a warning sign) d. The software phones home via the web with what appears to be an "id" e. The software seems to have a 7 second start delay that kicks in later f. The software phones home secretly to audiochannel.net (66.39.83.117 g. The GUI seems far more intuitive (with big buttons!) than Shotcut is VP imported the video quickly when I ran the File Add Files command. Like Shotcut (the only other video editor I can compare it to), it puts the "video preview" in one corner and the audio & video timelines on the bottom row. Like Shotcut, VideoPad Editor has a GUI for splitting the track into shorter clips. VideoPad has a nice "zoom" button for zooming in on the clip in a Preview Timeline of sorts. I'll test it out further to see if it can do the minimum I need which is to blur faces and redact privacy information in smartphone video clips. http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/10/videopad.jpg ------------------------------------------------------- |
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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame?
Hello harry, I hired a "profesional" Sony shoulder-mount video camera to film my grandson's wedding and "do"; used VP to process the "film" then used "Totally Free Converter" to make the HD output available as.avi's as well as the .vob's (for displaying on mobile phones/TVs/Tabblets. It is the first time I have used a video camera abd was amazed at how steady the images were. He who is Keith Keith said on Tue, 10 Oct 2017 11:10:33 +0000 (UTC): The good news is that Shotcut seems to pretty much do everything you will need in at least a rudimentary way - but it has a steep learning curve (IMHO). Have you tried VideoPad Video Editor? I'm always open to suggestions as to the best freeware extant. So thanks for that idea. I'm testing it out now. http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/10/videopad.jpg Quick observations (which can change over time)... --------------------------------------------------- Here's the canonical site for others to benefit: VideoPad Video Editor http://www.nchsoftware.com/videopad/ "VideoPad Video Editor is a video editing application developed by NCH Software for the home and professional market. The software is complemented by the VirtualDub plug-ins that work with the software. VideoPad is part of a suite that integrates with other software created by NCH Software. This other software includes WavePad, a sound-editing program; MixPad, a sound-mixing program; and PhotoPad, an image editor" "A free video editor version is available for non-commercial use only." http://www.nchsoftware.com/videopad/vpsetup.exe It appears to be available for Mac, Windows, & Android. ------------------------------------------------------- The interface looks clean and simple and it seems to use VirtualDub plugins, but bear in mind a lot of the options are turned off in the freeware (so we have to see what works and what doesn't work). As I always maintain an observation log when I install software three oddities immediately struck me as quite different about VP. a. The installer defaulted to accepting the EULA (no big deal) b. The installer installed the program incredibly quickly (unusual) c. The installer exhibited other badly written hallmarks (a warning sign) d. The software phones home via the web with what appears to be an "id" e. The software seems to have a 7 second start delay that kicks in later f. The software phones home secretly to audiochannel.net (66.39.83.117 g. The GUI seems far more intuitive (with big buttons!) than Shotcut is VP imported the video quickly when I ran the File Add Files command. Like Shotcut (the only other video editor I can compare it to), it puts the "video preview" in one corner and the audio & video timelines on the bottom row. Like Shotcut, VideoPad Editor has a GUI for splitting the track into shorter clips. VideoPad has a nice "zoom" button for zooming in on the clip in a Preview Timeline of sorts. I'll test it out further to see if it can do the minimum I need which is to blur faces and redact privacy information in smartphone video clips. http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/10/videopad.jpg ------------------------------------------------------- |
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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame?
He who is Keith Keith said on Wed, 11 Oct 2017 14:22:50 +0000 (UTC):
I hired a "profesional" Sony shoulder-mount video camera to film my grandson's wedding and "do"; used VP to process the "film" then used "Totally Free Converter" to make the HD output available as.avi's as well as the .vob's (for displaying on mobile phones/TVs/Tabblets. It is the first time I have used a video camera abd was amazed at how steady the images were. Thanks for the hint of Totally Free Converter for file-format conversion. When I searched, it showed up in lots of download sites. Is this the canonical download site for Totally Free Converter? http://www.sabsoft.com/TotallyFreeConverter.htm This is the marketing blurb at that site: "Totally Free Converter is an express video & audio conversion tool. It converts video file to another video format, extract audio from video file and convert audio file to another audio format. A big feature of Totally Free Converter is the wide range of supported video and audio formats. It works with all popular formats." I put it in my video-conversion software archive: C:\software\editors\video\converters\totallyfreeco nverter In that same directory is the last non-adware version of Super freeware, which, on Windows, was the canonical video converter software until they went to the dark side a few years ago. Also in that conversion directory is the Handbrake freeware converter, which has the distinction of being open source and cross platform. There are also other related video and audio conversion utilities such as avidemux, ffmpeg, anyaudioconverter, klite codec packs, mkvtoolnix, oxelon, etc. I'll check out this Totally Free Converter and write up my observations, as always. One observation I can make though, about video converters, is that there are a lot of them, so, finding one isn't the effort. As with most software - freeware included - finding the best at task is where all the effort lies. |
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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame?
He who is harry newton said on Fri, 6 Oct 2017 12:37:56 +0000 (UTC):
Does anyone know of a no-registration video (i.e., large file) upload site? On the Windows ng, I already posted the first video using the suggested Shotcut freeware to upload the "Fritz! App" demonstration for iOS users that on iOS such things as graphing signal strength over time are apparently prohibited by Apple (for God knows what reason). Today I just made a second video using Shotcut freeware, where I learned a ton and where the second video took an order of magnitude less time to create than the first, simply due to the lessons inevitably learned. Here's the second video for review of results where the goal was simply: a. Record video/audio on Android of the screen running an app b. Copy that MP4 video from Android to Windows over the WiFi LAN c. Edit the video by adding text callouts and redacting private information d. Post the video to a no-registration upload site for others to view The no-registration site of the first video of Fritz! WiFi signal strength monitoring was "sendspace.com"; but people didn't like that site all that much so I'm trying out filedropper.com for this second video of the Android capabilities that iOS will never have (for God knows what reason Apple restricts iOS functionality so much). Here is the second video showing "redaction" using opensource Shotcut: http://www.filedropper.com/wifianalyzersignalstrength The first video showing Shotcut redaction was prior posted to sendspace: https://www.sendspace.com/file/gvckbe What do you think of the Shotcut redaction results? What do you think of those no-registration video upload/download sites? |
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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame?
In message , the capital-hater harry newton
writes: [] As with most software - freeware included - finding the best at task is where all the effort lies. One factor is overcoming familiarity-prejudice, too - some people (probably most of us; I know I'm guilty) think the "best" is the one they've been using for years, if not decades, and they overcome the shortcomings (inefficiencies, but not just those) by habit that's so ingrained they don't realise they're doing it. -- J. P. Gilliver. UMRA: 1960/1985 MB++G()AL-IS-Ch++(p)Ar@T+H+Sh0!:`)DNAf If you're playing a killer monster, be very quiet. - Anthony Hopkins, RT 2016/10/22-28 |
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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame?
In article , J. P. Gilliver
(John) wrote: One factor is overcoming familiarity-prejudice, too - some people (probably most of us; I know I'm guilty) think the "best" is the one they've been using for years, if not decades, and they overcome the shortcomings (inefficiencies, but not just those) by habit that's so ingrained they don't realise they're doing it. true. another effect is that if another system does what they want, but in a slightly different way, it's automatically worse, even if it's objectively simpler and more effective. |
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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame?
He who is nospam said on Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:31:18 -0400:
One factor is overcoming familiarity-prejudice, too - some people (probably most of us; I know I'm guilty) think the "best" is the one they've been using for years, if not decades, and they overcome the shortcomings (inefficiencies, but not just those) by habit that's so ingrained they don't realise they're doing it. true. another effect is that if another system does what they want, but in a slightly different way, it's automatically worse, even if it's objectively simpler and more effective. I must agree with both JP Gilliver and nospam that there are many people who make emotional decisions where they no longer can look objectively at the problem set. For an on-topic example, I already noted that most of the Shotcut videos started with a *customized* user interface. While it's noble that Shotcut is so customizable, no noob is going to have that customized user interface right off the bat. Luckily Shotcut has a button to return the GUI to the defaults, but I haven't found a single tutorial video that starts from the defaults. Worse, highly graphically intensive GUIs such as Shotcut aren't really very explainable in text, so you *need* the videos more so than you do with command line conversion tools. Having said all that, I can easily see now that as people have expended the energy to learn how Shotcut does things, that they may be resistant to accept another freeware program that does the same things - only differently. When taking into account comparisons, many factors come into play. Often the best program may turn out to be the most portable for example, which generally is found in open-source programs more so than in proprietary incarnations of the same functionality. In the end, at the moment anyway, I think Shotcut does most of what I needed a freeware video editor to do, which enabled me to make this set of videos yesterday and today: Videos: WiFi Analyzer: http://www.filedropper.com/wifianalyzersignalstrength Fritz: https://www.sendspace.com/file/gvckbe Screenshots: Fritz WLAN: http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/11/fritz_wlan.jpg WiFi Analyzer: http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/11/wifianalyzerbbb1c.jpg Which soundly refuted this video "claiming" non-existent iOS capabilities: Videos: https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo http://www.filedropper.com/iosshowingwi-fiovertime-7qaaba6dfio Screenshots: http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/11/wifi_sweetspots.jpg http://wetakepic.com/images/2017/10/11/wifisweetspot_video_by_snit.jpg I realize that to most normal people, the app web site and the screenshots by the users would have proven the point, but the iOS apologists repeatedly insisted (dozens of times) that only a video would prove the point. Sigh. -- And so, a video was made... thanks to you! |
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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame?
He who is harry newton said on Thu, 12 Oct 2017 01:36:53 +0000 (UTC):
I realize that to most normal people, the app web site and the screenshots by the users would have proven the point, but the iOS apologists repeatedly insisted (dozens of times) that only a video would prove the point. Sigh. OOOps. I apologize for not being complete... In that last post, I forgot to link to the proof of that statement above that only a video would satisfy the iOS apologists who crafted this entirely erroneous video where not a single statement is factually correct: https://youtu.be/7QaABa6DFIo In that video (and dozens of times on numerous Apple and iOS newsgroups), you hear that iOS apologist tell iOS gullibles that only a video will prove him wrong. So a video was made... Here's the related thread with all the gory details, but all you have to read is the opening post to get the incontrovertible facts which the Shotcut-edited video further proved beyond a shadow of a doubt. It's a fact iOS devices can't even graph Wi-Fi signal strength over time https://groups.google.com/d/msg/comp.mobile.ipad/-T7FEXIdU9Q/Dhy-LFH3AwAJ |
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What's a good free Windows video editor that crops out data in the MP4 video frame?
On Thu, 12 Oct 2017 01:36:53 +0000 (UTC), harry newton
wrote: He who is nospam said on Wed, 11 Oct 2017 16:31:18 -0400: One factor is overcoming familiarity-prejudice, too - some people (probably most of us; I know I'm guilty) think the "best" is the one they've been using for years, if not decades, and they overcome the shortcomings (inefficiencies, but not just those) by habit that's so ingrained they don't realise they're doing it. true. another effect is that if another system does what they want, but in a slightly different way, it's automatically worse, even if it's objectively simpler and more effective. I must agree with both JP Gilliver and nospam that there are many people who make emotional decisions where they no longer can look objectively at the problem set. I wonder if Gvim text editor would be an example of that. ;-) Naw, probably not. -- Char Jackson |
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