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Compact Flash type I and type II
On 2/20/08 3:45 AM, in article , "Floyd L. Davidson" wrote: John Navas wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:31:44 -0900, (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote in : John Navas wrote: Nothing of the sort. What the Wikipedia article actually makes clear is that there is no benefit to a Type II flash card, just as the OP asked. Read it again. And again if necessary. You said "no, just the opposite", an cited the wikipedia article to support that assertion. It is wrong. Your statement is wrong. Now you compound it with more invalid commentary. The wiki article does not make it clear that there is not benefit to the Type II card. If it were correct, that is exactly what it would say. It doesn't. Sorry, but you are wrong on all counts. Another Navas "victory" by proclamation. Facts don't seem to affect you, do they? Not at all. |
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Compact Flash type I and type II
(Floyd L. Davidson) wrote:
John Navas wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:34:35 -0500, (elliot) wrote in : Staples is selling a 2GB CF type I for $18 and a 2GB CF type II for $40...Can anyone tell me if there is a good reason to spend more money on the type II as my Canon Supershot S20 accepts both Type No, just the opposite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_flash#Type_I_and_Type_II The references are a 1999 review of a "a 224MB whopper", and a 2004 review of a new $3000 each 8 GB CF-II card. To put it mildly, the Wikipedia cite is incorrect and totally misleading because it is a decade out of date, and simply does not provide a valid answer to the OP's question. To the best of my knowledge the CF spec hasn't changed in the past decade and the only difference between type 1 and type 2 is still the 1.7mm in thickness of the casing, just like the Wikipedia article is stating. Is there anything I'm missing? jue |
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Compact Flash type I and type II
Jürgen Exner wrote:
(Floyd L. Davidson) wrote: John Navas wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:34:35 -0500, (elliot) wrote in : Staples is selling a 2GB CF type I for $18 and a 2GB CF type II for $40...Can anyone tell me if there is a good reason to spend more money on the type II as my Canon Supershot S20 accepts both Type No, just the opposite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_flash#Type_I_and_Type_II The references are a 1999 review of a "a 224MB whopper", and a 2004 review of a new $3000 each 8 GB CF-II card. To put it mildly, the Wikipedia cite is incorrect and totally misleading because it is a decade out of date, and simply does not provide a valid answer to the OP's question. To the best of my knowledge the CF spec hasn't changed in the past decade and the only difference between type 1 and type 2 is still the 1.7mm in thickness of the casing, just like the Wikipedia article is stating. Is there anything I'm missing? So type II doesn't mean microdrive any more? |
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Compact Flash type I and type II
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 18:19:53 GMT, Jürgen Exner
wrote in : (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote: John Navas wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:34:35 -0500, (elliot) wrote in : Staples is selling a 2GB CF type I for $18 and a 2GB CF type II for $40...Can anyone tell me if there is a good reason to spend more money on the type II as my Canon Supershot S20 accepts both Type No, just the opposite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_flash#Type_I_and_Type_II The references are a 1999 review of a "a 224MB whopper", and a 2004 review of a new $3000 each 8 GB CF-II card. To put it mildly, the Wikipedia cite is incorrect and totally misleading because it is a decade out of date, and simply does not provide a valid answer to the OP's question. To the best of my knowledge the CF spec hasn't changed in the past decade and the only difference between type 1 and type 2 is still the 1.7mm in thickness of the casing, just like the Wikipedia article is stating. Is there anything I'm missing? No. That's entirely correct. -- Best regards, John Navas Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others) |
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Compact Flash type I and type II
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 11:10:00 -0800, Paul Furman
wrote in : Jürgen Exner wrote: (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote: John Navas wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:34:35 -0500, (elliot) wrote in : Staples is selling a 2GB CF type I for $18 and a 2GB CF type II for $40...Can anyone tell me if there is a good reason to spend more money on the type II as my Canon Supershot S20 accepts both Type No, just the opposite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_flash#Type_I_and_Type_II The references are a 1999 review of a "a 224MB whopper", and a 2004 review of a new $3000 each 8 GB CF-II card. To put it mildly, the Wikipedia cite is incorrect and totally misleading because it is a decade out of date, and simply does not provide a valid answer to the OP's question. To the best of my knowledge the CF spec hasn't changed in the past decade and the only difference between type 1 and type 2 is still the 1.7mm in thickness of the casing, just like the Wikipedia article is stating. Is there anything I'm missing? So type II doesn't mean microdrive any more? It never did. It just meant thicker, which the microdrive needed, but can be flash as well. -- Best regards, John Navas Panasonic DMC-FZ8 (and several others) |
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Compact Flash type I and type II
On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 15:24:54 GMT, John Navas
wrote: On Wed, 20 Feb 2008 00:45:44 -0900, (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote in : John Navas wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 23:31:44 -0900, (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote in : John Navas wrote: Nothing of the sort. What the Wikipedia article actually makes clear is that there is no benefit to a Type II flash card, just as the OP asked. Read it again. And again if necessary. You said "no, just the opposite", an cited the wikipedia article to support that assertion. It is wrong. Your statement is wrong. Now you compound it with more invalid commentary. The wiki article does not make it clear that there is not benefit to the Type II card. If it were correct, that is exactly what it would say. It doesn't. Sorry, but you are wrong on all counts. Another Navas "victory" by proclamation. Thank you, Mr. Pot. Facts don't seem to affect you, do they? Facts do affect me. Your rude proclamations don't. Not much info is being added to the title subject matter. I suggest that everyone on this NG change their nym once a week. That will help reduce ad hominems. In the meantime, pls take your off-topic comments to email. Nobody else on this NG gives a **** what you guys are arguing about. Ed |
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Compact Flash type I and type II
Paul Furman wrote:
Jürgen Exner wrote: To the best of my knowledge the CF spec hasn't changed in the past decade and the only difference between type 1 and type 2 is still the 1.7mm in thickness of the casing, just like the Wikipedia article is stating. Is there anything I'm missing? So type II doesn't mean microdrive any more? It never did. Microdive meant type 2 because you couldn't fit a microdrive into 3.3mm height. But of course as we all know from simple Boolean logic that does NOT imply type 2 = microdrive. jue |
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Compact Flash type I and type II
Jürgen Exner wrote:
(Floyd L. Davidson) wrote: John Navas wrote: On Tue, 19 Feb 2008 22:34:35 -0500, (elliot) wrote in : Staples is selling a 2GB CF type I for $18 and a 2GB CF type II for $40...Can anyone tell me if there is a good reason to spend more money on the type II as my Canon Supershot S20 accepts both Type No, just the opposite: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_flash#Type_I_and_Type_II The references are a 1999 review of a "a 224MB whopper", and a 2004 review of a new $3000 each 8 GB CF-II card. To put it mildly, the Wikipedia cite is incorrect and totally misleading because it is a decade out of date, and simply does not provide a valid answer to the OP's question. To the best of my knowledge the CF spec hasn't changed in the past decade and the only difference between type 1 and type 2 is still the 1.7mm in thickness of the casing, just like the Wikipedia article is stating. Is there anything I'm missing? "The vast majority of all Type II devices are Microdrives and other miniature hard drives." Is that true? "Flash based Type II devices are rare but a few examples do exist.[9][10] Is that true? Are the references cited valid information? "Even the largest capacity cards commonly available are Type I cards ..." Is that true? " ... some early CF based cameras where the slot is too small and some of the poorer quality USB card readers with the same problem." Is that valid or significant? That is precisely the section that Navas cited. Is it necessary to go through that line by line? This was quoted previously. -- Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
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Compact Flash type I and type II
Jürgen Exner wrote:
Paul Furman wrote: Jürgen Exner wrote: To the best of my knowledge the CF spec hasn't changed in the past decade and the only difference between type 1 and type 2 is still the 1.7mm in thickness of the casing, just like the Wikipedia article is stating. Is there anything I'm missing? So type II doesn't mean microdrive any more? It never did. Microdive meant type 2 because you couldn't fit a microdrive into 3.3mm height. But of course as we all know from simple Boolean logic that does NOT imply type 2 = microdrive. Yet the cited Wikipedia article says Type II cards are rarely anything other than microdrives... "The vast majority of all Type II devices are Microdrives and other miniature hard drives. Flash based Type II devices are rare but a few examples do exist." -- Floyd L. Davidson http://www.apaflo.com/floyd_davidson Ukpeagvik (Barrow, Alaska) |
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