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Old August 1st 06, 11:08 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital
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What a true Zen master; mindboggling minimalism.

http://images.google.com/images?q=Rineke+Dijkstra

From the Guggenheim's website


"Rineke Dijkstra documents people in transitional moments: mothers
shortly after giving birth, young people entering the military,
matadors still bloody from a bullfight, young club kids just off the
dance floor, and preadolescent bathers on various beaches in the United
States and Eastern Europe. Formally, her images resemble classical
portraiture with their frontally posed figures isolated against minimal
backgrounds. Despite their uniformity, however, Dijkstra's pictures
deftly expose the emotional state of her individual sitters. Although
she isolates the subjects in her Beaches series (1992-96) and frames
them with only sea and sky, the artist reveals much about them by
capturing a subtle gesture or expression in these unguarded moments
that reside somewhere between the posed and the natural. In
photographing the already awkward young subjects in their bathing
suits, Dijkstra sets up a situation marked by a self-consciousness that
parallels the uneasy passage between childhood and adulthood."

From the Tate Modern's website


"Dijkstra concentrates on single portraits, and usually works in
series, looking at groups such as adolescents, clubbers, and soldiers.
Her subjects are shown standing, facing the camera, against a minimal
background."

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Old August 2nd 06, 07:04 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital
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What a true Zen master; mindboggling minimalism.

http://images.google.com/images?q=Rineke+Dijkstra

From the Guggenheim's website


"Rineke Dijkstra documents people in transitional moments: mothers
shortly after giving birth, young people entering the military,
matadors still bloody from a bullfight, young club kids just off the
dance floor, and preadolescent bathers on various beaches in the United
States and Eastern Europe. Formally, her images resemble classical
portraiture with their frontally posed figures isolated against minimal
backgrounds. Despite their uniformity, however, Dijkstra's pictures
deftly expose the emotional state of her individual sitters. Although
she isolates the subjects in her Beaches series (1992-96) and frames
them with only sea and sky, the artist reveals much about them by
capturing a subtle gesture or expression in these unguarded moments
that reside somewhere between the posed and the natural. In
photographing the already awkward young subjects in their bathing
suits, Dijkstra sets up a situation marked by a self-consciousness that
parallels the uneasy passage between childhood and adulthood."

From the Tate Modern's website


"Dijkstra concentrates on single portraits, and usually works in
series, looking at groups such as adolescents, clubbers, and soldiers.
Her subjects are shown standing, facing the camera, against a minimal
background."


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Old August 2nd 06, 07:06 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital
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I used to think that I was an OK photographer. After viewing these
images, I know that I am a great photographer!

Bob

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Old August 2nd 06, 02:54 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital
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In rec.photo.digital wrote:

What a true Zen master; mindboggling minimalism.


http://images.google.com/images?q=Rineke+Dijkstra

She is absolutely brilliant; the best contemporary portrait
photographer I know of. Little 480 x 625 images on the 'net really
don't do it for me, though. The real prints are fantastic.

In particular, the recent exhibition in the Tate Modern showed her
images of new mothers and their babies opposite her young bullfighter
pictures: extremes of masculinity and femininity.

There were many other big-name photographers in that exhibition, and
IMO Dijkstra was by far the best of the lot[*] with the possible
exception of Eggleston. Much as I love Winogrand, Dijkstra's images
were phenomenal.

Andrew.
[*] Thomas Ruff, August Sander, Bernd and Hilla Becher, Thomas Struth,
Fazal Sheikh, Michael Schmidt, Robert Frank, Stephen Shore, Walker
Evans, Nicholas Nixon, William Eggleston, Philip-Lorca diCorcia,
Robert Adams, Albert Renger-Patzsch, Lee Friedlander, Lewis Baltz,
Paul Graham, Garry Winogrand, Andreas Gursky, Boris Mikhailov, Diane
Arbus, Martin Parr.

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Old August 2nd 06, 04:12 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital
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I used to think that I was an OK photographer. After viewing these
images, I know that I am a great photographer!

Bob


You just don't get it ;-)


Look at this picture

Rineke Dijkstra
Pontland Highschool, Newcastle, UK,
February 17, 2000, 2000
C-Print
24½ x 20½ inches
Courtesy of the artist and Marian Goodman Gallery, New York
Estimated retail value: $13,000

http://img.getactivehub.com/act2/cus...kstra_live.jpg


Sorry, it's crap. There are thousands of people who can and do take
better pictures. It looks like a bad snapshot taken during the
shooting for an episode of Catherine Tate.

Let's see your print of a recent simple shot of two highschool girls in
their uniform against a bland wall (you can recreate this shot on any
English afternoon within minutes perhaps - the street are littered with
highschoolers and all the walls in England are bland - nevermind that
the picture looks like it was shot with a disposable point and shoot
film camera) be in such high regard. Her work is in the best of the
best museums.


And that makes it good? It's a snapshot, and not a good one at that.

This is the Rineke Dijkstra self-portrait

http://www.artnet.com/artwork_images...e-dijkstra.jpg


and this is pure ugly garbage.


It's not even minimalist as you claimed, just boring and incredibly
ugly. And yes, you can take pictures of ugly and make it stunning, but
these are just rubbish.

And, no, I am not claiming I can do better.

To ask people to recreate the same boring pictures is pointless, as
pointless as the originals but sums up much of 'modern' art.



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