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Nikon D3x buyers beware - D700x already in prototype



 
 
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Old December 10th 08, 05:55 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,aus.photo
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Default Nikon D3x buyers beware - D700x already in prototype

RichA wrote:
Potential Nikon D3x buyers beware - D700x is already in prototype!


You knew this would happen. Nikon got blindsided by Canon's 5D Mark II
which is far superior to the the D700. Alas, not sure if the D700x will
help Nikon all that much at the high end at this point in time. What
Nikon really needs to compete at the high end is a whole new line of
lenses that can match the high quality of Canon's BWLs (big white
lenses). Until Nikon comes out with a fluorite lens, they'll be unable
to make much headway at the high end.
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Old December 10th 08, 07:22 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,aus.photo
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Default Nikon D3x buyers beware - D700x already in prototype

In article , SMS
wrote:

RichA wrote:
Potential Nikon D3x buyers beware - D700x is already in prototype!


You knew this would happen.


it hasn't happened yet. it's a *rumour*.

Nikon got blindsided by Canon's 5D Mark II
which is far superior to the the D700.


in some ways yes, in other ways no.

Alas, not sure if the D700x will
help Nikon all that much at the high end at this point in time. What
Nikon really needs to compete at the high end is a whole new line of
lenses that can match the high quality of Canon's BWLs (big white
lenses). Until Nikon comes out with a fluorite lens, they'll be unable
to make much headway at the high end.


we've been through this before. both companies make excellent lenses
and flourite is not a requirement.
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Old December 10th 08, 08:06 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,aus.photo
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Default Nikon D3x buyers beware - D700x already in prototype

On Tue, 09 Dec 2008 23:22:30 -0800, nospam
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In article , SMS
wrote:

RichA wrote:
Potential Nikon D3x buyers beware - D700x is already in prototype!


You knew this would happen.


it hasn't happened yet. it's a *rumour*.

Nikon got blindsided by Canon's 5D Mark II
which is far superior to the the D700.


in some ways yes, in other ways no.

Alas, not sure if the D700x will
help Nikon all that much at the high end at this point in time. What
Nikon really needs to compete at the high end is a whole new line of
lenses that can match the high quality of Canon's BWLs (big white
lenses). Until Nikon comes out with a fluorite lens, they'll be unable
to make much headway at the high end.


we've been through this before. both companies make excellent lenses
and flourite is not a requirement.


.... unless you are making bread for Superman.



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Old December 10th 08, 02:38 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,aus.photo
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Default Nikon D3x buyers beware - D700x already in prototype


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In article , SMS
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RichA wrote:
Potential Nikon D3x buyers beware - D700x is already in prototype!


You knew this would happen.


it hasn't happened yet. it's a *rumour*.

Now don't you bring facts into a debate started by Richard Anderson, all his
"insider info" comes from $10/hour Toronto Henry's salesdroids.

Camera sales people are either failed photographers, or wannabees



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Old December 10th 08, 06:38 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,aus.photo
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Default Nikon D3x buyers beware - D700x already in prototype

On 2008-12-09 21:55:45 -0800, SMS said:

RichA wrote:
Potential Nikon D3x buyers beware - D700x is already in prototype!


You knew this would happen. Nikon got blindsided by Canon's 5D Mark II
which is far superior to the the D700. Alas, not sure if the D700x will
help Nikon all that much at the high end at this point in time. What
Nikon really needs to compete at the high end is a whole new line of
lenses that can match the high quality of Canon's BWLs (big white
lenses). Until Nikon comes out with a fluorite lens, they'll be unable
to make much headway at the high end.


And here we have the Canon troll arguing with the other troll.
Ignorance arguing with ignorance. It ain't pretty.

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Old December 10th 08, 07:15 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,aus.photo
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Default Nikon D3x buyers beware - D700x already in prototype

Come on: "Some people need the resolution"???? 99.9999% of the prints made
in the world are 11x14 and under. Just ask ANY film lab anywhere.

Read Ken Rockwell's astute article on the D3x.

Perhaps 1/100 of 1% of us ever print larger than 16x20. Who the **** needs
25mp for anything 11x14 and under???

I'm staying with my D3 and saving $5,000





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wrote:


RichA wrote:
Potential Nikon D3x buyers beware - D700x is already in prototype!


You knew this would happen.


it hasn't happened yet. it's a *rumour*.


Now don't you bring facts into a debate started by Richard Anderson, all
his
"insider info" comes from $10/hour Toronto Henry's salesdroids.

Camera sales people are either failed photographers, or wannabees


Sorry, but some freak hijacked my name. I did not post that Nikon
rumour, but it is interesting.
Also, I believe the D3x will sell because some people need the
resolution and they won't wait for any D700x.



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Old December 10th 08, 07:21 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,aus.photo
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Default Nikon D3x buyers beware - D700x already in prototype

On 2008-12-10 11:15:14 -0800, "John Smith" said:

Come on: "Some people need the resolution"???? 99.9999% of the prints made
in the world are 11x14 and under. Just ask ANY film lab anywhere.

Read Ken Rockwell's astute article on the D3x.

Perhaps 1/100 of 1% of us ever print larger than 16x20. Who the **** needs
25mp for anything 11x14 and under???

I'm staying with my D3 and saving $5,000


Most photos are cropped -- some more, some less.

What with the stock photography companies demanding photos of this
resolution, the fine art photographers, and the current fad in wedding
and portrait photography for prints well over 16 x 20, there is plenty
of demand for the 1Ds Mk III and the D3X, not to mention digital backs
and medium format digital cameras.


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Old December 10th 08, 08:10 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,aus.photo
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Default Nikon D3x buyers beware - D700x already in prototype

In article , John Smith wrote:

Read Ken Rockwell's astute article


you mean the guy who fabricates a lot of what he writes? that's not
what i'd call astute.
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Old December 10th 08, 09:47 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,aus.photo
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Camera sales people are either failed photographers, or wannabees


Many aren't even that qualified.

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Old December 10th 08, 11:59 PM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,aus.photo
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Default Nikon D3x buyers beware - D700x already in prototype

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 16:47:21 -0500, Alan Browne
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Camera sales people are either failed photographers, or wannabees


Many aren't even that qualified.


Should that bother anyone buying a camera from a camera store?

A failed photographer is someone who tried to make a business out of
photography and failed. Lack of knowledge of camera equipment and
photographic techniques would be far down on the list of reasons for
failure. Lack of people skills and lack of business skills are the
reasons that most would-be professional photographers can't make a go
of it as a business. Lack of capital would the next item on the list.

You have basically two groups of camera sales people: big box sales
clerks and camera store sales clerks. Rarely will you find a big box
camera sales clerk that is more than minimally knowledgeable. If that.
Usually, you will find dedicated camera store clerks to be
knowledgeable and helpful. There are exceptions in both groups, of
course, but that's the way it usually works.

The people who have trouble with camera store sales clerks are the
amateurs who come into the store thinking that they know more than the
clerk and are more intent on proving this than they are in being
informed. The clerks usually figure this out early in the
conversation and stop being helpful. They know they aren't going to
convince this know-it-all that (brand) lenses are good, and they just
lay back and let the customer run the show. Then the customer struts
out thinking "That guy isn't qualified to sell cameras".

I suspect, based on the threads in these photography groups, that many
of the regular posters are in this category.

And, no, I am not - nor have ever been - a camera store clerk.





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