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Leica lens on Panasonic subcompact - any good?
On Jun 12, 1:38 pm, Sammy wrote:
Many years ago we saw Nikon rebrand Nikkormat lenses as Nikkor. It diluted some of the brand value of Nikon but in the end all was ok. Now some Panasonic subcompact digital cameras have Leica lenses. (I've only just noticed but maybe they have done it for a long time.) http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/l..._10/index.html I can't think Leitz would want to have its name on something which was very average. Is this baby a Leica lens generally better than the lenses on similar cameras? Those Leica lenses are as "Leica" as the lens in an old Kodak. The biggest con in cheap cameras is namedropping German lens design companies, that have next to ZERO to do with the lens their name is stamped on. |
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Leica lens on Panasonic subcompact - any good?
"notbob" wrote in message
. .. On 2007-06-12, =(8) wrote: camera. The Leica name carries a lot of weight in photography circles. How about the camera? Is it made of metal or is just another heap of plastic that'll crack the first time it's dropped? nb What's the difference between a crack in the plastic and a dent in the metal. In the end the result is the same. You case is damaged and the guts maybe as well. People that think plastic cased cameras are cheap are just idiots. I can you are unaware of it we have plastic now that can stop bullets. Besides you drop just about any camera and you have most likely trashed it. Of course there are some rare miracles but not many. =(8) |
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Leica lens on Panasonic subcompact - any good?
"Rich" wrote in message
oups.com... On Jun 12, 1:38 pm, Sammy wrote: Many years ago we saw Nikon rebrand Nikkormat lenses as Nikkor. It diluted some of the brand value of Nikon but in the end all was ok. Now some Panasonic subcompact digital cameras have Leica lenses. (I've only just noticed but maybe they have done it for a long time.) http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/l..._10/index.html I can't think Leitz would want to have its name on something which was very average. Is this baby a Leica lens generally better than the lenses on similar cameras? Those Leica lenses are as "Leica" as the lens in an old Kodak. The biggest con in cheap cameras is namedropping German lens design companies, that have next to ZERO to do with the lens their name is stamped on. You are so full of it Rich. I submit that any company that allows there names to be slapped on another's products and has no say in the quality of the products or the quality of the technology said company is responsible for is not a company that makes a good product. Leica is simply not going to let Panasonic of anyone else simply slap their name on a product unless it meets or exceeds their quality and design requirements. To do so is the fastest way to trash a company. Those that do are already trash. =(8) |
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Leica lens on Panasonic subcompact - any good?
Sammy wrote:
Many years ago we saw Nikon rebrand Nikkormat lenses as Nikkor. It diluted some of the brand value of Nikon but in the end all was ok. Now some Panasonic subcompact digital cameras have Leica lenses. (I've only just noticed but maybe they have done it for a long time.) http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/l..._10/leica.html http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/l..._10/index.html I can't think Leitz would want to have its name on something which was very average. Is this baby a Leica lens generally better than the lenses on similar cameras? Yes, they do appear to be better than their Canon equivalents. We have the slightly larger Panasonic FZ5 and FZ20 and have no hesitation in recommending them. David |
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Leica lens on Panasonic subcompact - any good?
"Sammy" wrote in message ... Many years ago we saw Nikon rebrand Nikkormat lenses as Nikkor. It diluted some of the brand value of Nikon but in the end all was ok. Now some Panasonic subcompact digital cameras have Leica lenses. (I've only just noticed but maybe they have done it for a long time.) http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/l..._10/leica.html http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/l..._10/index.html I can't think Leitz would want to have its name on something which was very average. Is this baby a Leica lens generally better than the lenses on similar cameras? I have the Panasonic LX2 and FX01, both with Leica lenses. Most reviewers seem to find the lenses excellent, though neither camera performs well in low light/high ISO. |
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Leica lens on Panasonic subcompact - any good?
Yes, you didn't notice my little " ;-) "
The Panasonic is a nice little camera - I have one. Not as good as my Nikon D200, but not bad. In the deal, Panasonic uses Nikon lenses, and Leica buys the case and electronics from Panasonic - both win without having to invest millions in new manufacturing. -- The smaller the fine print, the less you will like what it says. Stan Beck From New Orleans to Brandon MS To reply, remove 101 from address. *** "=(8)" wrote in message ... "Stan Beck" wrote in message . .. An interesting note is that some of Leica compact cameras are almost identical to Panasonic, because that is what they are, with some minor spec changes for Leica. Is it not curious that Panasonic would allow it's cameras to be sold with the Leica name on it? ;-) It's an OEM partnership. -- The smaller the fine print, the less you will like what it says. Stan Beck From New Orleans to Brandon MS To reply, remove 101 from address. *** "if" wrote in message ... "=\(8\)" wrote: "Sammy" wrote in message ... I can't think Leitz would want to have its name on something which was very average. Is this baby a Leica lens generally better than the lenses on similar cameras? Leica sets the specifications that Panasonic must follow in order to claim it is a Leica lens. However, Leica does not make the lens Panasonic does. According to the blurb on the box, "Leica DC lenses are manufactured using measurement instruments and quality assurance systems that have been certified by Leica Camera AG based on the company's quality standards". I would have thought the lenses were also designed by Leica, though it doesn't actually state this so I don't know for sure. I've certainly no complaints about the lens quality, it's just a shame they chose to team up with a second-tier sensor manufacturer. Actually not it is not surprising that Panasonic would do that. Especially if they want to use the Leica name which gives them a much more salable camera. The Leica name carries a lot of weight in photography circles. =(8) |
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Leica lens on Panasonic subcompact - any good?
Or a crack in the lens - I can't wait for metal lenses.
-- The smaller the fine print, the less you will like what it says. Stan Beck From New Orleans to Brandon MS To reply, remove 101 from address. *** "=(8)" wrote in message ... "notbob" wrote in message . .. On 2007-06-12, =(8) wrote: camera. The Leica name carries a lot of weight in photography circles. How about the camera? Is it made of metal or is just another heap of plastic that'll crack the first time it's dropped? nb What's the difference between a crack in the plastic and a dent in the metal. In the end the result is the same. You case is damaged and the guts maybe as well. People that think plastic cased cameras are cheap are just idiots. I can you are unaware of it we have plastic now that can stop bullets. Besides you drop just about any camera and you have most likely trashed it. Of course there are some rare miracles but not many. =(8) |
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Leica lens on Panasonic subcompact - any good?
On 12 Jun 2007, Frank Arthur wrote:
"Sammy" wrote in message ... Many years ago we saw Nikon rebrand Nikkormat lenses as Nikkor. Please provide EVIDENCE that Nikon ever "rebranded" Nikkormat lenses. I think you are full of crap and fabricate as you write. It diluted some of the brand value of Nikon but in the end all was ok. Now some Panasonic subcompact digital cameras have Leica lenses. (I've only just noticed but maybe they have done it for a long time.) http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/l..._10/leica.html http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/l..._10/index.html I can't think Leitz would want to have its name on something which was very average. Is this baby a Leica lens generally better than the lenses on similar cameras? Frank, by rebrand I mean that Nikon changed the brand bame of their entry level cameras and lenses. The old brand name in the 1970s of Nikkormat was replaced by the Nikon brand. The Nikkormat EL2 became the Nikon FE. Check it out. Apologies accepted. |
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Leica lens on Panasonic subcompact - any good?
On 12 Jun 2007, Yoshi wrote:
You are clueless. There are no "Nikkormat lenses" At the time the Nikkormats were produced, Nikon marketed Nikkor lenses for them. The Series E lenses marketed as "Nikon" weren't rebranded, and were made to sell with the EM and FG series cameras. Don't spread misinformation. If you don't know what you are talking about, STFU. "Sammy" wrote in message ... Many years ago we saw Nikon rebrand Nikkormat lenses as Nikkor. It diluted some of the brand value of Nikon but in the end all was ok. Now some Panasonic subcompact digital cameras have Leica lenses. (I've only just noticed but maybe they have done it for a long time.) http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/l..._10/leica.html http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/l..._10/index.html I can't think Leitz would want to have its name on something which was very average. Is this baby a Leica lens generally better than the lenses on similar cameras? You are clueless. There are no "Nikkormat lenses" At the time the Nikkormats were produced, Nikon marketed Nikkor lenses for them. The Series E lenses marketed as "Nikon" weren't rebranded, and were made to sell with the EM and FG series cameras. Don't spread misinformation. If you don't know what you are talking about, STFU. Yoshi "Nikkormat lenses" can mean lenses which are for a Nikkormat. Is English your first language? |
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Leica lens on Panasonic subcompact - any good?
"Akiralx" wrote in message
... "Sammy" wrote in message ... Many years ago we saw Nikon rebrand Nikkormat lenses as Nikkor. It diluted some of the brand value of Nikon but in the end all was ok. Now some Panasonic subcompact digital cameras have Leica lenses. (I've only just noticed but maybe they have done it for a long time.) http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/l..._10/leica.html http://panasonic.co.jp/pavc/global/l..._10/index.html I can't think Leitz would want to have its name on something which was very average. Is this baby a Leica lens generally better than the lenses on similar cameras? I have the Panasonic LX2 and FX01, both with Leica lenses. Most reviewers seem to find the lenses excellent, though neither camera performs well in low light/high ISO. That has nothing to do with the lens and more to do with the tiny sensors that are in most of these cameras. That is why most people that want to do low light/existing light photography go with a dSLR, the larger sensor makes all of the difference. But, even then your camera is only as good as your lens. Leica are excellent the FZ20 being a bit better than the 30, not in quality but in capability. The 20 is capable much closer focusing and is a bit faster. =(8) |
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