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Canon 70-300 IS USM lens availability
AaronW wrote:
I'd consider 70-200/2.8 IS instead. The constant f/4 is not brighter at the short end, and only about 1/2 stop brighter at the long end, than the variable 70-300/4-5.6 IS. The brighter f/2.8 would be much more useful. BTW, the short end at 70mm is not short enough, especially on 1.6x. I'd prefer a short tele zoom, e.g., 45-135, and add another longer tele lens. I'm the OP about the 70-300 IS. I do notice that having the 18-55 and 70-300 leaves a gap of about 25%. This is unfortunate. However, since the 18-55 lens is a cheapie non-IS, I would consider later getting a better IS type lens that goes across the gap. In the meantime, one can always crop the 55 a bit, though it is not exactly the world's sharpest lens, and the number of pixels on the 30D leaves only marginal crop room too. Doug McDonald |
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Canon 70-300 IS USM lens availability
Doug McDonald wrote:
AaronW wrote: I'd consider 70-200/2.8 IS instead. The constant f/4 is not brighter at the short end, and only about 1/2 stop brighter at the long end, than the variable 70-300/4-5.6 IS. The brighter f/2.8 would be much more useful. BTW, the short end at 70mm is not short enough, especially on 1.6x. I'd prefer a short tele zoom, e.g., 45-135, and add another longer tele lens. I do notice that having the 18-55 and 70-300 leaves a gap of about 25%. This is unfortunate. However, since the 18-55 lens is a cheapie non-IS, I would consider later getting a better IS type lens that goes across the gap. It's not only the gap. E.g., there is no gap between 24-70 and 70-200, but I would switch frequently between these two lenses. A lens overlapping the middle range, 45-135, would be very useful. Right now, between your 18-55 and 70-300, a good middle lens is 28-135/3.5-5.6 IS, but a 45-135 without retrofocus would be better and/or cheaper. http://digitcamera.tripod.com/#slr |
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Canon 70-300 IS USM lens availability
On Fri, 15 Sep 2006 14:19:05 -0500, Doug McDonald
wrote: I'm the OP about the 70-300 IS. I do notice that having the 18-55 and 70-300 leaves a gap of about 25%. This is unfortunate. However, since the 18-55 lens is a cheapie non-IS, I would consider later getting a better IS type lens that goes across the gap. In the meantime, one can always crop the 55 a bit, though it is not exactly the world's sharpest lens, and the number of pixels on the 30D leaves only marginal crop room too. Doug McDonald Doug McDonald, I initially purchased my 300D with the same 18-55mm (28.8-88) kit lens followed shortly thereafter with the purchase of a Canon EF 55-200mm (88-320) f/4.5-5.6 II USM & an EF 50mm (80) f/1.8 Mk11 for low light use. The EF 55-200mm f/4.5-5.6 II USM was within my budget @ the time & I suspect that I got a very good copy of it because I was quite pleased with it's overall performance including sharpness. Then later on I purchased a Canon EF 100mm (160) f/2 USM lens & soon learned just how sharp a lens could be when I used it to take a picture of a squirrel in my yard & could clearly make out the convex reflection of my white house in the reflection of it's eye. I was & remain impressed with this lens & still favor it when what I am photographing does not need a zoom lens & @ f2, it's quite fast! Some time later I purchased my 1st "IS" lens, the Canon EF 28-135mm (44.8-216) f/3.5-5.6 IS USM which soon became my favorite walk-about lens. However it was a bit too long for indoor group shots unless it was a big enough room, so I purchased the Canon EF-S 17-85MM (27.2-136) f4-5.6 IS USM soon after it was introduced. Although this lens dose have a considerable amount of barrel distortion @ 17mm (27.2), it was rarely ever a problem for me because I usually photograph people & not buildings with strait lines where such distortion can become noticeable. There are several programs available that can easily correct this distortion in Post Production. In short, eventually the Canon EF-S 17-85MM (27.2-136) f4-5.6 IS USM & the EF 70-300mm (112-480) f/4-5.6 IS USM became my 2 favorite lenses for most of my photography & together they give me a total effective equivalent of (27.2-480mm) with very little overlap. I'm certain that there are sharper, faster & better lenses than either of these 2 but I have to remain within my budget for now. These meet my needs 95% of the time for what I want to do with them. Best of luck in your future selection of a replacement for the 18-55mm kit lens. I am quite pleased with my EF-S 17-85MM (27.2-136) f4-5.6 IS USM lens for my needs but depending upon what your needs are, you my want/need something better. Note to Holley: I dropped off my EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM lens to UPS late this afternoon, so now the wait for it's return begins. Respectfully, DHB "To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public."--Theodore Roosevelt, May 7, 1918 |
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Canon 70-300 IS USM lens availability
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I'll be shooting this weekend and will advise if anything operational has changed. The repair procedure appears to have changed the operation of the lens for the better. It seems to focus faster, and it doesn't seem like it hunts as much when focusing. The noise level of the IS mechanism is definitely lower. I would recommend getting the lens repaired, whether or not you are currently having problems. Holley Of course this could also be a figment of my imagination. :-) |
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Canon 70-300 IS USM lens availability
On Sun, 17 Sep 2006 18:45:37 -0500, "Holley"
wrote: snip I'll be shooting this weekend and will advise if anything operational has changed. The repair procedure appears to have changed the operation of the lens for the better. It seems to focus faster, and it doesn't seem like it hunts as much when focusing. The noise level of the IS mechanism is definitely lower. I would recommend getting the lens repaired, whether or not you are currently having problems. Holley Of course this could also be a figment of my imagination. :-) Not to mention that the lens does not extend on its own when pointed down. Well worth the 'update' IMHO... -- Scott in Florida |
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Canon 70-300 IS USM lens availability
AaronW wrote:
DHB wrote: Thanks again for the information. At the moment I am hoping Santa (me) will buy me a EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM. This would be my 1st piece of "L" glass. Up till now I could not justify the "L" glass but am now giving it serious consideration for use @ selected special events where top optical quality may prove worth the investment. Do you have any thoughts on this lens? Yes I know it's not available yet but I am talking figuratively & most of my use of it would likely be for candid photography of people, weddings, sporting events & the like. The only thing I don't like is that it duplicates the 1st 1/2+ of the zoom range of my 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM. I'd consider 70-200/2.8 IS instead. The constant f/4 is not brighter at the short end, and only about 1/2 stop brighter at the long end, than the variable 70-300/4-5.6 IS. The brighter f/2.8 would be much more useful. BTW, the short end at 70mm is not short enough, especially on 1.6x. I'd prefer a short tele zoom, e.g., 45-135, and add another longer tele lens. I have the 70-200/2.8 IS. The main problem is that it is *HEAVY*. Carry it around for a couple of hours and you will know it in your bones. It is, however, a superb lens. The f/4 IS (which is, I think, not out yet) should be significantly lighter. If a person does mostly daytime outdoor photography I see no reason why the f/4 should not be amply wide. And it should also be a superb lens. ----- Paul J. Gans |
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Canon 70-300 IS USM lens availability
AaronW wrote:
Doug McDonald wrote: AaronW wrote: I'd consider 70-200/2.8 IS instead. The constant f/4 is not brighter at the short end, and only about 1/2 stop brighter at the long end, than the variable 70-300/4-5.6 IS. The brighter f/2.8 would be much more useful. BTW, the short end at 70mm is not short enough, especially on 1.6x. I'd prefer a short tele zoom, e.g., 45-135, and add another longer tele lens. I do notice that having the 18-55 and 70-300 leaves a gap of about 25%. This is unfortunate. However, since the 18-55 lens is a cheapie non-IS, I would consider later getting a better IS type lens that goes across the gap. It's not only the gap. E.g., there is no gap between 24-70 and 70-200, but I would switch frequently between these two lenses. A lens overlapping the middle range, 45-135, would be very useful. Right now, between your 18-55 and 70-300, a good middle lens is 28-135/3.5-5.6 IS, but a 45-135 without retrofocus would be better and/or cheaper. I want a 24-85mm f/4 from Canon. 70 is too short for me as an everyday lens. And 45 is too long. Unless of course I had a full-frame body which I don't... ---- Paul J. Gans |
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Canon 70-300 IS USM lens availability
Paul J Gans wrote:
AaronW wrote: DHB wrote: Thanks again for the information. At the moment I am hoping Santa (me) will buy me a EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM. This would be my 1st piece of "L" glass. Up till now I could not justify the "L" glass but am now giving it serious consideration for use @ selected special events where top optical quality may prove worth the investment. Do you have any thoughts on this lens? Yes I know it's not available yet but I am talking figuratively & most of my use of it would likely be for candid photography of people, weddings, sporting events & the like. The only thing I don't like is that it duplicates the 1st 1/2+ of the zoom range of my 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM. I'd consider 70-200/2.8 IS instead. The constant f/4 is not brighter at the short end, and only about 1/2 stop brighter at the long end, than the variable 70-300/4-5.6 IS. The brighter f/2.8 would be much more useful. BTW, the short end at 70mm is not short enough, especially on 1.6x. I'd prefer a short tele zoom, e.g., 45-135, and add another longer tele lens. I have the 70-200/2.8 IS. The main problem is that it is *HEAVY*. Carry it around for a couple of hours and you will know it in your bones. It is, however, a superb lens. The f/4 IS (which is, I think, not out yet) should be significantly lighter. I understand. I think the f/4 lens is for people who want to save weight, but not necessarily those who want to save money. If a person does mostly daytime outdoor photography I see no reason why the f/4 should not be amply wide. DoF, and the limit to outdoor daylight may be too restrictive. http://digitcamera.tripod.com/#slr |
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Canon 70-300 IS USM lens availability
Paul J Gans wrote:
AaronW wrote: Doug McDonald wrote: AaronW wrote: I'd consider 70-200/2.8 IS instead. The constant f/4 is not brighter at the short end, and only about 1/2 stop brighter at the long end, than the variable 70-300/4-5.6 IS. The brighter f/2.8 would be much more useful. BTW, the short end at 70mm is not short enough, especially on 1.6x. I'd prefer a short tele zoom, e.g., 45-135, and add another longer tele lens. I do notice that having the 18-55 and 70-300 leaves a gap of about 25%. This is unfortunate. However, since the 18-55 lens is a cheapie non-IS, I would consider later getting a better IS type lens that goes across the gap. It's not only the gap. E.g., there is no gap between 24-70 and 70-200, but I would switch frequently between these two lenses. A lens overlapping the middle range, 45-135, would be very useful. Right now, between your 18-55 and 70-300, a good middle lens is 28-135/3.5-5.6 IS, but a 45-135 without retrofocus would be better and/or cheaper. I want a 24-85mm f/4 from Canon. Do you mean f/2.8? 70 is too short for me as an everyday lens. And 45 is too long. Unless of course I had a full-frame body which I don't... For EF-S, I want a 28-85 without retrofocus. http://digitcamera.tripod.com/#slr |
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Canon 70-300 IS USM lens availability
AaronW wrote:
Paul J Gans wrote: AaronW wrote: DHB wrote: Thanks again for the information. At the moment I am hoping Santa (me) will buy me a EF 70-200mm f/4L IS USM. This would be my 1st piece of "L" glass. Up till now I could not justify the "L" glass but am now giving it serious consideration for use @ selected special events where top optical quality may prove worth the investment. Do you have any thoughts on this lens? Yes I know it's not available yet but I am talking figuratively & most of my use of it would likely be for candid photography of people, weddings, sporting events & the like. The only thing I don't like is that it duplicates the 1st 1/2+ of the zoom range of my 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS USM. I'd consider 70-200/2.8 IS instead. The constant f/4 is not brighter at the short end, and only about 1/2 stop brighter at the long end, than the variable 70-300/4-5.6 IS. The brighter f/2.8 would be much more useful. BTW, the short end at 70mm is not short enough, especially on 1.6x. I'd prefer a short tele zoom, e.g., 45-135, and add another longer tele lens. I have the 70-200/2.8 IS. The main problem is that it is *HEAVY*. Carry it around for a couple of hours and you will know it in your bones. It is, however, a superb lens. The f/4 IS (which is, I think, not out yet) should be significantly lighter. I understand. I think the f/4 lens is for people who want to save weight, but not necessarily those who want to save money. Yes, though the f/4 ought to be a good bit cheaper than the f/2.8. If a person does mostly daytime outdoor photography I see no reason why the f/4 should not be amply wide. DoF, and the limit to outdoor daylight may be too restrictive. Yes. In the end it all depends on the intended use and the photographer. Only *you* can make the final decision. ---- Paul J. Gans |
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