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300D flash flip bracket? wireless flash?
Greetings, I'm looking for a flash bracket to keep the flash up over the camera while shooting horiz or vertical. I like the effect of getting the flash up to push the shadows down, and having hte flash above the camera when shooting vertically. Now, I have an old Stroboframe RL (closest thing to it now is the Camera Flip shown here http://www.tiffen.com/Stroboframe_ProRL_page.htm but add a big honking wooden handle and a much clunkier rotatry link mechanism) that they don't make anymore that I used with my elan, but 4 things bugged me about it: o First was that it was pretty horrible in the hand, with a handle that was worthless for a grip mount AF camera. It was fatiguing to use. I think it was really designed to be used with mechanical shutter release plungers. HEAVY. o The anti-twist plate for the camera really didn't deal well with the rounded edges of the Elan or the 300D 3 Second is that with the EOS off-shoe flash cord I have (which does seem to work with the 300d), there was nothing on the bracket to make sure the shoe of the off-shoe cord stayed square and didn't rotate. This would make it likely that the flash is firing a little off center rather than straight ahead. 4 Finally, it seemed to have quite an adverse effect on the AF assist beam actually hitting hte subject in a useable location. This was with the EZ flash system. It suddenly occurs to me at the ST-E2 wireless flash system may have been invented to address items 3 and 4 above? Anyhoo, so I'm looking for a better alternative and certainly would'd mind something more portable that could fit into my camera bag. Anyone using a flash bracket they like with the 300D and any experience with wireless flash triggering? I'm pondering auto balanced dual-flash use when working with an assistant for weddings., having the assistant stand with a flash on a stick out at 45 degrees or what not. Nuttiness? Best Regards, -- Todd H. http://www.toddh.net/ |
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Todd H. wrote:
Greetings, I'm looking for a flash bracket to keep the flash up over the camera while shooting horiz or vertical. I like the effect of getting the flash up to push the shadows down, and having hte flash above the camera when shooting vertically. Now, I have an old Stroboframe RL (closest thing to it now is the I have the Stroboframe RLc, a simpler, older version of the same beast. I removed the side wooden handle since there is no way to put an electronic release on it (easilly) to fire the camera. I mount the strobe above and use a wire from the hotshoe of the camera to fire the strobe. This can all be tilted down slightly. I can also use the camera built in flash to fire the other flash (TTL controlled), but that risks red eye so I use the cable. Anyhoo, so I'm looking for a better alternative and certainly would'd mind something more portable that could fit into my camera bag. Just get the new stroboframe quick flip (350 or folding flip). (I don't have the 300D, but I'm pretty sure it will work fine with the quick flip 350). Anyone using a flash bracket they like with the 300D and any experience with wireless flash triggering? I'm pondering auto balanced dual-flash use when working with an assistant for weddings., having the assistant stand with a flash on a stick out at 45 degrees or what not. Nuttiness? No, not nuttiness. If you have an assistant to hold the lighting, that's great. Wireless flash using infrared can be tricky in some places, you don't always get a good path to the receiver on the remote flash. Use a bit of strategically placed aluminum foil near the remote flash head to help increase IR light reflecting into its IR receiver. Cheers, Alan -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. |
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"Todd H." wrote in message ...
Greetings, I'm looking for a flash bracket to keep the flash up over the camera while shooting horiz or vertical. I like the effect of getting the flash up to push the shadows down, and having hte flash above the camera when shooting vertically. Now, I have an old Stroboframe RL (closest thing to it now is the Camera Flip shown here http://www.tiffen.com/Stroboframe_ProRL_page.htm but add a big honking wooden handle and a much clunkier rotatry link mechanism) that they don't make anymore that I used with my elan, but 4 things bugged me about it: o First was that it was pretty horrible in the hand, with a handle that was worthless for a grip mount AF camera. It was fatiguing to use. I think it was really designed to be used with mechanical shutter release plungers. HEAVY. o The anti-twist plate for the camera really didn't deal well with the rounded edges of the Elan or the 300D 3 Second is that with the EOS off-shoe flash cord I have (which does seem to work with the 300d), there was nothing on the bracket to make sure the shoe of the off-shoe cord stayed square and didn't rotate. This would make it likely that the flash is firing a little off center rather than straight ahead. 4 Finally, it seemed to have quite an adverse effect on the AF assist beam actually hitting hte subject in a useable location. This was with the EZ flash system. It suddenly occurs to me at the ST-E2 wireless flash system may have been invented to address items 3 and 4 above? Anyhoo, so I'm looking for a better alternative and certainly would'd mind something more portable that could fit into my camera bag. Anyone using a flash bracket they like with the 300D and any experience with wireless flash triggering? I'm pondering auto balanced dual-flash use when working with an assistant for weddings., having the assistant stand with a flash on a stick out at 45 degrees or what not. Nuttiness? Best Regards, -- Todd H. http://www.toddh.net/ We use the Stroboframe "Pro-T," which does an admirable job (on our 20Ds), and has a small clip to hold the cable in place. The only problem you had that it perpetuates is the twist plate still lets the thing rotate. -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com |
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"Alan Browne" wrote in message
... Todd H. wrote: Greetings, I'm looking for a flash bracket to keep the flash up over the camera while shooting horiz or vertical. I like the effect of getting the flash up to push the shadows down, and having hte flash above the camera when shooting vertically. Now, I have an old Stroboframe RL (closest thing to it now is the I have the Stroboframe RLc, a simpler, older version of the same beast. I removed the side wooden handle since there is no way to put an electronic release on it (easilly) to fire the camera. I mount the strobe above and use a wire from the hotshoe of the camera to fire the strobe. This can all be tilted down slightly. I can also use the camera built in flash to fire the other flash (TTL controlled), but that risks red eye so I use the cable. Anyhoo, so I'm looking for a better alternative and certainly would'd mind something more portable that could fit into my camera bag. Just get the new stroboframe quick flip (350 or folding flip). (I don't have the 300D, but I'm pretty sure it will work fine with the quick flip 350). Anyone using a flash bracket they like with the 300D and any experience with wireless flash triggering? I'm pondering auto balanced dual-flash use when working with an assistant for weddings., having the assistant stand with a flash on a stick out at 45 degrees or what not. Nuttiness? No, not nuttiness. If you have an assistant to hold the lighting, that's great. Wireless flash using infrared can be tricky in some places, you don't always get a good path to the receiver on the remote flash. Use a bit of strategically placed aluminum foil near the remote flash head to help increase IR light reflecting into its IR receiver. Cheers, Alan The problem I had with the Quickflip ( is that it mounts round backwards, on the left of the camera (shooter's orientation) rendering the controls on the grip/battery pack useless. The Pro-T, while $40 more, flips in the correct direction. And it's aluminum, rather than stamped steel. -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com |
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"Todd H." wrote in message ... Greetings, I'm looking for a flash bracket to keep the flash up over the camera while shooting horiz or vertical. I like the effect of getting the flash up to push the shadows down, and having hte flash above the camera when shooting vertically. Now, I have an old Stroboframe RL (closest thing to it now is the Camera Flip shown here http://www.tiffen.com/Stroboframe_ProRL_page.htm but add a big honking wooden handle and a much clunkier rotatry link mechanism) that they don't make anymore that I used with my elan, but 4 things bugged me about it: o First was that it was pretty horrible in the hand, with a handle that was worthless for a grip mount AF camera. It was fatiguing to use. I think it was really designed to be used with mechanical shutter release plungers. HEAVY. o The anti-twist plate for the camera really didn't deal well with the rounded edges of the Elan or the 300D 3 Second is that with the EOS off-shoe flash cord I have (which does seem to work with the 300d), there was nothing on the bracket to make sure the shoe of the off-shoe cord stayed square and didn't rotate. This would make it likely that the flash is firing a little off center rather than straight ahead. 4 Finally, it seemed to have quite an adverse effect on the AF assist beam actually hitting hte subject in a useable location. This was with the EZ flash system. It suddenly occurs to me at the ST-E2 wireless flash system may have been invented to address items 3 and 4 above? Anyhoo, so I'm looking for a better alternative and certainly would'd mind something more portable that could fit into my camera bag. Anyone using a flash bracket they like with the 300D and any experience with wireless flash triggering? I'm pondering auto balanced dual-flash use when working with an assistant for weddings., having the assistant stand with a flash on a stick out at 45 degrees or what not. Nuttiness? newton bracket, you can use your camera's grip to hold the rig, twists easy enough, fast enough, at least for me. |
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"Skip M" writes:
[Todd wrote:] Anyone using a flash bracket they like with the 300D? The problem I had with the Quickflip ( is that it mounts round backwards, on the left of the camera (shooter's orientation) rendering the controls on the grip/battery pack useless. The Pro-T, while $40 more, flips in the correct direction. And it's aluminum, rather than stamped steel. Hi all, Thanks for all the very helpful input. After a lot of looking into the various suggestions, I finally ordered: Stroboframe Pro-T bracket Stroboframe 300EOS anti-twist plate Canon BG-E1 vertical grip/battery grip Stroboframe 300BE1 anti-twist plate The Pro-T appears to have both the clearance needed for use with the battery grip, and I like the flash up higher rather than lower (so I selected it rather than the similar but shorter Press-T bracket), as well as rotating the flash the proper direction to make use of the button placement on the vertical grip. I also like these brackets because they do not have a handle--I'd rather have my left hand under the camera and on the zoom ring versus any handle. :-) I selected one AT plate for use with the camera alone (300EOS), and one for use with the vertical grip on it (300BE1). Adorama.com appeared to have the most complete descriptions of the cameras that these AT plates work with, fwiw. Ironically Tiffen/STroboframe site was mostly useless in this regard. I already own the Canon off camera shoe cord that's been working like a champ since the EOS Elan days (though it lacks anti-twist features), and I'll put the 550EX to work with this setup. Hopefully all will work well. We'll see how the AF assist works out with the flash at this height.... And for now, I've held off on delving into wireless TTL flash. Best Regards, -- Todd H. http://www.toddh.net/ |
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