Nikon is backwards

On Sun, 03 Feb 2019 01:02:19 -0000, Bill W wrote:

On Sat, 02 Feb 2019 23:45:37 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 23:34:35 -0000, Bill W wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 22:30:07 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

No it isn't. Every one of the 15ish cars I've owned has done it. When you lean forwards, the belt thinks you've crashed. It has to, it can't tell the difference.

Okay, my turn to call it nonsense. That is not how they work. They
lock only if the belt is extended very rapidly, not from leaning
forward. I can say that because I was an ASE, Cadillac, Chevy, Buick,
and Pontiac certified master techician.

Then you must lean very slowly, because every car I've owned has locked simply from leaning. That's: Rover, Ford, Vauxhall, Renault, Fiat, Range Rover.

Well, I think I've learned my lesson about replying to you. Thanks for
saving me time going forward.

WTF? Do you think I'm lying or something? It's damn annoying leaning forwards at a junction to see if anything's coming and having my seatbelt prevent me from doing so. Maybe you're one of those people who doesn't look and just pulls out in front of me.

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 23:13:24 -0000, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 22:32:03 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 01:20:22 -0000, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 12:24:39 -0600, Bill W
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 08:17:57 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2019-01-30 17:55, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 01:05:49 -0000, Alan Browne

I'd rather have it. Never know. Didn't cost anything to get fixed.

Airbags, like seatbelts, cause as much harm as good. I never wear a
seatbelt unless there's a cop nearby. My friend's father died because
he was trapped by his seatbelt in an accident. They're also damn
annoying - whenever you lean forwards at a junction to see if any
traffic is coming, the damn thing locks! Then you've got to slowly lean
back and forwards again, trying to encourage it to believe you weren't
thrown forwards in an accident.

Complete and utter nonsense.

Yeah, mostly, but even though you're replying to a troll, he's partly
right about the belts locking in some cars. It's the way some are
designed, and you sometimes have to push yourself back in the seat to
release them. He's certainly right about "annoying".

My Honda does that. You get used to it.

Some years ago I blacked out while driving another Honda Legend and
went straight on under cruise control at 60mph into a tree. At the
first contact the safetybelt pulled tight. I didn't even move far
enough forward to reach the airbag. I was badly bruised but not
otherwise hurt. After an experience like that you tend to value seat
belts which care about your safety.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/97mrg4m039..._0104.JPG?dl=0

Most people don't black out for no reason.

There was a reason which was quickly dealt with.

That doesn't negate what I just said. Most of us don't have a problem with maintaining consciousness. If you do, you should reconsider your ability to drive. Do the DVLA (or whatever it is on your country) know you have this medical condition?

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 23:11:34 -0000, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 22:32:53 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 02:09:57 -0000, wrote:

Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 12:24:39 -0600, Bill W
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 08:17:57 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2019-01-30 17:55, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 01:05:49 -0000, Alan Browne

I'd rather have it. Never know. Didn't cost anything to get fixed.

Airbags, like seatbelts, cause as much harm as good. I never wear a
seatbelt unless there's a cop nearby. My friend's father died because
he was trapped by his seatbelt in an accident. They're also damn
annoying - whenever you lean forwards at a junction to see if any
traffic is coming, the damn thing locks! Then you've got to slowly lean
back and forwards again, trying to encourage it to believe you weren't
thrown forwards in an accident.

Complete and utter nonsense.

Yeah, mostly, but even though you're replying to a troll, he's partly
right about the belts locking in some cars. It's the way some are
designed, and you sometimes have to push yourself back in the seat to
release them. He's certainly right about "annoying".

My Honda does that. You get used to it.

Some years ago I blacked out while driving another Honda Legend and
went straight on under cruise control at 60mph into a tree. At the
first contact the safetybelt pulled tight. I didn't even move far
enough forward to reach the airbag. I was badly bruised but not
otherwise hurt. After an experience like that you tend to value seat
belts which care about your safety.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/97mrg4m039..._0104.JPG?dl=0

In this case, a 75MPH barrel roll into an embankment left me hanging
upside-down suspended by the seatbelt. Both airbag, and seatbelt saved me
from serious injury. My biggest complaint was a seatbelt burn across my
left collarbone.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/1khsjb1foz0kj7s/Ford_13.JPG

And if your car had caught fire and you were trapped by your seatbelt, you wouldn't be here to tell us. Tying people up is for BDSM, not driving.

And the three boys (13, 13 and 16) who had stolen this car weren't
wearing seatbelts when it hit a tree and ruptured the fuel tank. They
didn't get out either.
https://resources.stuff.co.nz/conten...7674783028.jpg
or http://tinyurl.com/ycjnww74

Who cares about car thieves?

On Sat, 02 Feb 2019 23:44:21 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 23:07:17 -0000, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 22:31:26 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:45 -0000, Alan Browne wrote:

On 2019-01-31 13:24, Bill W wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 08:17:57 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2019-01-30 17:55, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 01:05:49 -0000, Alan Browne

I'd rather have it. Never know. Didn't cost anything to get fixed.

Airbags, like seatbelts, cause as much harm as good. I never wear a
seatbelt unless there's a cop nearby. My friend's father died because
he was trapped by his seatbelt in an accident. They're also damn
annoying - whenever you lean forwards at a junction to see if any
traffic is coming, the damn thing locks! Then you've got to slowly lean
back and forwards again, trying to encourage it to believe you weren't
thrown forwards in an accident.

Complete and utter nonsense.

Yeah, mostly, but even though you're replying to a troll,

I'm seeing that now. Seemed reasonable. I guess he's a long con troll.

// he's partly
right about the belts locking in some cars. It's the way some are
designed, and you sometimes have to push yourself back in the seat to
release them. He's certainly right about "annoying".

Never had that issue with my 2 most recent cars. I seem to recall
something like that on an older car.

Drive w/o a seatbelt here and it's a fine.

It's only a fine if you're caught. I get caught once a year, £100 a year is a small price to pay for:
1) No annoyance when leaning forwards.
2) Not having to put the ****ing thing off and on every time I get to and out of my car.

3) No protection in an accident.

Isn't it better to not crash in the first place? Or are you incapable of driving properly?

It is much better to not crash in the first place.

I am very capable of driving, properly or otherwise.
I can't speak for other people or fate in general.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Sat, 02 Feb 2019 23:47:26 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 23:27:31 -0000, Alan Browne wrote:

On 2019-02-01 17:31, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:45 -0000, Alan Browne

Drive w/o a seatbelt here and it's a fine.

It's only a fine if you're caught. I get caught once a year, £100 a
year is a small price to pay for:

Hmm, for someone who moans about the price of everything, that seems a
strange thing to write.

It's only the cost of 2 tanks of petrol. And I buy way more than 2 tanks a year.

1) No annoyance when leaning forwards.

I wear mine and it's no annoyance to lean forward.

Then you must lean very slowly. Are you one of those annoying buggers who sits at junctions for ages, not pulling out when there's enough room for a bus?

2) Not having to put the ****ing thing off and on every time I get to
and out of my car.

A few seconds effort for added crash safety.

Safety is for pussies, and people who can't drive properly. I have never managed to crash enough to cause myself an injury.

So you have crashed.

And a few seconds 50 times a day is not on.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Sat, 02 Feb 2019 23:50:17 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 23:12:35 -0000, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:42:04 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2019-01-31 20:20, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 12:24:39 -0600, Bill W
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 08:17:57 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2019-01-30 17:55, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 01:05:49 -0000, Alan Browne

I'd rather have it. Never know. Didn't cost anything to get fixed.

Airbags, like seatbelts, cause as much harm as good. I never wear a
seatbelt unless there's a cop nearby. My friend's father died because
he was trapped by his seatbelt in an accident. They're also damn
annoying - whenever you lean forwards at a junction to see if any
traffic is coming, the damn thing locks! Then you've got to slowly lean
back and forwards again, trying to encourage it to believe you weren't
thrown forwards in an accident.

Complete and utter nonsense.

Yeah, mostly, but even though you're replying to a troll, he's partly
right about the belts locking in some cars. It's the way some are
designed, and you sometimes have to push yourself back in the seat to
release them. He's certainly right about "annoying".

My Honda does that. You get used to it.

Some years ago I blacked out while driving another Honda Legend and
went straight on under cruise control at 60mph into a tree. At the

Why did you black out?

Basically, incorrect medication for high blood pressure.

There is no medication for that, in fact I wonder if we should be treating it at all. Who's to say what's "too high"? Apparently one third of Americans have "high blood pressure" - I refuse to believe 1 in 3 people have faulty bodies. Mine is something over 120. The cardiologist's eyes almost popped out and he said it was very dangerous, then proceeded to give me four separate medications for it, all at full dosage, none of which had the slightest effect. I stopped taking them after three years when I felt no different and the readings were almost identical.

Would you feel the ame if your blood pressure was 220/180?
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Sun, 03 Feb 2019 01:19:06 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 23:13:24 -0000, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 22:32:03 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 01:20:22 -0000, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 12:24:39 -0600, Bill W
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 08:17:57 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2019-01-30 17:55, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 01:05:49 -0000, Alan Browne

I'd rather have it. Never know. Didn't cost anything to get fixed.

Airbags, like seatbelts, cause as much harm as good. I never wear a
seatbelt unless there's a cop nearby. My friend's father died because
he was trapped by his seatbelt in an accident. They're also damn
annoying - whenever you lean forwards at a junction to see if any
traffic is coming, the damn thing locks! Then you've got to slowly lean
back and forwards again, trying to encourage it to believe you weren't
thrown forwards in an accident.

Complete and utter nonsense.

Yeah, mostly, but even though you're replying to a troll, he's partly
right about the belts locking in some cars. It's the way some are
designed, and you sometimes have to push yourself back in the seat to
release them. He's certainly right about "annoying".

My Honda does that. You get used to it.

Some years ago I blacked out while driving another Honda Legend and
went straight on under cruise control at 60mph into a tree. At the
first contact the safetybelt pulled tight. I didn't even move far
enough forward to reach the airbag. I was badly bruised but not
otherwise hurt. After an experience like that you tend to value seat
belts which care about your safety.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/97mrg4m039..._0104.JPG?dl=0

Most people don't black out for no reason.

There was a reason which was quickly dealt with.

That doesn't negate what I just said. Most of us don't have a problem with maintaining consciousness. If you do, you should reconsider your ability to drive. Do the DVLA (or whatever it is on your country) know you have this medical condition?

They know all the details, and I am still driving.
--

Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Sun, 03 Feb 2019 07:32:58 -0000, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Sun, 03 Feb 2019 01:19:06 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 23:13:24 -0000, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 22:32:03 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 01:20:22 -0000, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 12:24:39 -0600, Bill W
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 08:17:57 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2019-01-30 17:55, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 01:05:49 -0000, Alan Browne

I'd rather have it. Never know. Didn't cost anything to get fixed.

Airbags, like seatbelts, cause as much harm as good. I never wear a
seatbelt unless there's a cop nearby. My friend's father died because
he was trapped by his seatbelt in an accident. They're also damn
annoying - whenever you lean forwards at a junction to see if any
traffic is coming, the damn thing locks! Then you've got to slowly lean
back and forwards again, trying to encourage it to believe you weren't
thrown forwards in an accident.

Complete and utter nonsense.

Yeah, mostly, but even though you're replying to a troll, he's partly
right about the belts locking in some cars. It's the way some are
designed, and you sometimes have to push yourself back in the seat to
release them. He's certainly right about "annoying".

My Honda does that. You get used to it.

Some years ago I blacked out while driving another Honda Legend and
went straight on under cruise control at 60mph into a tree. At the
first contact the safetybelt pulled tight. I didn't even move far
enough forward to reach the airbag. I was badly bruised but not
otherwise hurt. After an experience like that you tend to value seat
belts which care about your safety.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/97mrg4m039..._0104.JPG?dl=0

Most people don't black out for no reason.

There was a reason which was quickly dealt with.

That doesn't negate what I just said. Most of us don't have a problem with maintaining consciousness. If you do, you should reconsider your ability to drive. Do the DVLA (or whatever it is on your country) know you have this medical condition?

They know all the details, and I am still driving.

You actually told them? Why?

On Sun, 03 Feb 2019 07:32:12 -0000, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Sat, 02 Feb 2019 23:50:17 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 23:12:35 -0000, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Fri, 1 Feb 2019 15:42:04 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2019-01-31 20:20, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 12:24:39 -0600, Bill W
wrote:

On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 08:17:57 -0500, Alan Browne
wrote:

On 2019-01-30 17:55, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Wed, 30 Jan 2019 01:05:49 -0000, Alan Browne

I'd rather have it. Never know. Didn't cost anything to get fixed.

Airbags, like seatbelts, cause as much harm as good. I never wear a
seatbelt unless there's a cop nearby. My friend's father died because
he was trapped by his seatbelt in an accident. They're also damn
annoying - whenever you lean forwards at a junction to see if any
traffic is coming, the damn thing locks! Then you've got to slowly lean
back and forwards again, trying to encourage it to believe you weren't
thrown forwards in an accident.

Complete and utter nonsense.

Yeah, mostly, but even though you're replying to a troll, he's partly
right about the belts locking in some cars. It's the way some are
designed, and you sometimes have to push yourself back in the seat to
release them. He's certainly right about "annoying".

My Honda does that. You get used to it.

Some years ago I blacked out while driving another Honda Legend and
went straight on under cruise control at 60mph into a tree. At the

Why did you black out?

Basically, incorrect medication for high blood pressure.

There is no medication for that, in fact I wonder if we should be treating it at all. Who's to say what's "too high"? Apparently one third of Americans have "high blood pressure" - I refuse to believe 1 in 3 people have faulty bodies. Mine is something over 120. The cardiologist's eyes almost popped out and he said it was very dangerous, then proceeded to give me four separate medications for it, all at full dosage, none of which had the slightest effect. I stopped taking them after three years when I felt no different and the readings were almost identical.

Would you feel the ame if your blood pressure was 220/180?

Yikes! Wouldn't that have killed you already?

Anyway, if it was caused by whatever's causing mine, the drugs still wouldn't work.

On Sun, 03 Feb 2019 07:30:32 -0000, Eric Stevens wrote:

On Sat, 02 Feb 2019 23:47:26 -0000, "Commander Kinsey"
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 23:27:31 -0000, Alan Browne wrote:

On 2019-02-01 17:31, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Thu, 31 Jan 2019 18:27:45 -0000, Alan Browne

Drive w/o a seatbelt here and it's a fine.

It's only a fine if you're caught. I get caught once a year, £100 a
year is a small price to pay for:

Hmm, for someone who moans about the price of everything, that seems a
strange thing to write.

It's only the cost of 2 tanks of petrol. And I buy way more than 2 tanks a year.

1) No annoyance when leaning forwards.

I wear mine and it's no annoyance to lean forward.

Then you must lean very slowly. Are you one of those annoying buggers who sits at junctions for ages, not pulling out when there's enough room for a bus?

2) Not having to put the ****ing thing off and on every time I get to
and out of my car.

A few seconds effort for added crash safety.

Safety is for pussies, and people who can't drive properly. I have never managed to crash enough to cause myself an injury.

So you have crashed.

But a seatbelt was not helpful. Everybody has a few dents and scrapes in car parks. I did knock the front end off a tractor once, but I didn't need a belt for that either.