Ping Tony Cooper

On 10/9/2016 6:27 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-10-09 22:15:25 +0000, PeterN said:

On 10/9/2016 2:36 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-10-09 18:00:36 +0000, Ron C said:

On 10/8/2016 12:08 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 10/7/2016 9:42 AM, Robert Coe wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 01:29:16 -0400, Tony Cooper

wrote:
: On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 00:20:07 -0400, Tony Cooper
: wrote:
:
:
: However, I will play. I don't do this often, but I think it's an
: interesting enough image to try. I treated it as a straight
street
: scene with black and white done in NIK:
:
: https://photos.smugmug.com/AUE-Temp/...016-10-04B.jpg
:
: I got to looking at this (above) and decided it's just too
dark. If
: there are figures in the image, you should be able to make them
out. I
: did a little dodging on the two figures with backpacks and the
middle
: guy walking towards the camera and processed it not-quite-so-dark
:
: https://photos.smugmug.com/AUE-Temp/...016-10-04G.jpg

Naa ... That just makes the scene look overexposed.

Bob


The contrast is much too high, for the mood I was attempting to make.

I wanted to take a stab at variations from the raw file but
Photoshop C6's ACR doesn't support the D500.

Yup! Adobe stopped ACR updates for CS6 in 2015. The last one being ACR
9.1.1.

Unless you have an Adobe CC subscription, or Lightroom 6 the only other
solution for any CS users with new cameras is to use the DNG converter.
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/adobe-dng-converter.html


You can also get a RAW converter directly from Nikon, free.

Sure, but Ron is a CS6 user and it would probably be more useful for him
to be able to extend the capability of the non-subscription edition
Photoshop he owns and is familiar with, by being able to convert the
latest RAW files from all manufacturers, not just Nikon, to DNG. Then he
can use ACR to process those DNGs if they originate from a D500 or any
other new camera, and continue using PS CS6.

...and the Adobe DNG converter is free.


Yes, but in at least Nikon's case, your converted image will come closer
to what you see in the viewfinder, if you use Nikon's converter. I Can't
say if that is true for the other manufacturers, though I suspect it
probably is.



Another new RAW developer, soon to be released is On1 Photo RAW
https://www.on1.com
https://youtu.be/pql4d8M_ueg

I did make a few variations from the Duck's vanilla ACR
My versions are much more stylized than your vision.
I added noise/grain in a totally different way.

Anyway for what it's worth, my experiments are he
https://www.dropbox.com/sh/240rea2jr...t2UOz0rKa?dl=0


Interesting.




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PeterN

On 10/9/2016 6:27 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-10-09 22:15:25 +0000, PeterN said:

On 10/9/2016 2:36 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-10-09 18:00:36 +0000, Ron C said:

On 10/8/2016 12:08 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 10/7/2016 9:42 AM, Robert Coe wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 01:29:16 -0400, Tony Cooper

wrote:
: On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 00:20:07 -0400, Tony Cooper
: wrote:
:
:
: However, I will play. I don't do this often, but I think it's an
: interesting enough image to try. I treated it as a straight
street
: scene with black and white done in NIK:
:
: https://photos.smugmug.com/AUE-Temp/...016-10-04B.jpg
:
: I got to looking at this (above) and decided it's just too
dark. If
: there are figures in the image, you should be able to make them
out. I
: did a little dodging on the two figures with backpacks and the
middle
: guy walking towards the camera and processed it not-quite-so-dark
:
: https://photos.smugmug.com/AUE-Temp/...016-10-04G.jpg

Naa ... That just makes the scene look overexposed.

Bob


The contrast is much too high, for the mood I was attempting to make.

I wanted to take a stab at variations from the raw file but
Photoshop C6's ACR doesn't support the D500.

Yup! Adobe stopped ACR updates for CS6 in 2015. The last one being ACR
9.1.1.

Unless you have an Adobe CC subscription, or Lightroom 6 the only other
solution for any CS users with new cameras is to use the DNG converter.
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/adobe-dng-converter.html


You can also get a RAW converter directly from Nikon, free.

Sure, but Ron is a CS6 user and it would probably be more useful for him
to be able to extend the capability of the non-subscription edition
Photoshop he owns and is familiar with, by being able to convert the
latest RAW files from all manufacturers, not just Nikon, to DNG. Then he
can use ACR to process those DNGs if they originate from a D500 or any
other new camera, and continue using PS CS6.

...and the Adobe DNG converter is free.

It would be nice to have the latest ACR version but the version I have
works with all my current cameras. This news group is the only place
I've encountered other formats.

I downloaded the Adobe DNG converter and it didn't work on that file.

I downloaded the Nikon converter and it worked just fine. [Thanks PeterN]

I may play with that photo a bit more later, but this thread has about run
its course so not much more to add.

==
Later...
Ron C
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On 2016-10-10 00:00:30 +0000, Ron C said:

On 10/9/2016 6:27 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-10-09 22:15:25 +0000, PeterN said:
On 10/9/2016 2:36 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-10-09 18:00:36 +0000, Ron C said:
On 10/8/2016 12:08 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 10/7/2016 9:42 AM, Robert Coe wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 01:29:16 -0400, Tony Cooper

wrote:
: On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 00:20:07 -0400, Tony Cooper
: wrote:
:
:
: However, I will play. I don't do this often, but I think it's an
: interesting enough image to try. I treated it as a straight
street
: scene with black and white done in NIK:
:
: https://photos.smugmug.com/AUE-Temp/...016-10-04B.jpg
:
: I got to looking at this (above) and decided it's just too
dark. If
: there are figures in the image, you should be able to make them
out. I
: did a little dodging on the two figures with backpacks and the
middle
: guy walking towards the camera and processed it not-quite-so-dark
:
: https://photos.smugmug.com/AUE-Temp/...016-10-04G.jpg

Naa ... That just makes the scene look overexposed.

Bob


The contrast is much too high, for the mood I was attempting to make.

I wanted to take a stab at variations from the raw file but
Photoshop C6's ACR doesn't support the D500.

Yup! Adobe stopped ACR updates for CS6 in 2015. The last one being ACR
9.1.1.

Unless you have an Adobe CC subscription, or Lightroom 6 the only other
solution for any CS users with new cameras is to use the DNG converter.
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/adobe-dng-converter.html


You can also get a RAW converter directly from Nikon, free.

Sure, but Ron is a CS6 user and it would probably be more useful for him
to be able to extend the capability of the non-subscription edition
Photoshop he owns and is familiar with, by being able to convert the
latest RAW files from all manufacturers, not just Nikon, to DNG. Then he
can use ACR to process those DNGs if they originate from a D500 or any
other new camera, and continue using PS CS6.

...and the Adobe DNG converter is free.

It would be nice to have the latest ACR version but the version I have
works with all my current cameras. This news group is the only place
I've encountered other formats.

I downloaded the Adobe DNG converter and it didn't work on that file.

I suspect you might have done something wrong.

I just downloaded the latest DNG Converter 9.7 and I was able to
produce a DNG from Peter's D500 NEF without issue.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/DNG/_DSC1920.dng

I downloaded the Nikon converter and it worked just fine. [Thanks PeterN]

I may play with that photo a bit more later, but this thread has about run
its course so not much more to add.

==
Later...
Ron C


--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 10/9/2016 9:29 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-10-10 00:00:30 +0000, Ron C said:

On 10/9/2016 6:27 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-10-09 22:15:25 +0000, PeterN said:
On 10/9/2016 2:36 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-10-09 18:00:36 +0000, Ron C said:
On 10/8/2016 12:08 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 10/7/2016 9:42 AM, Robert Coe wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 01:29:16 -0400, Tony Cooper

wrote:
: On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 00:20:07 -0400, Tony Cooper
: wrote:
:
:
: However, I will play. I don't do this often, but I think
it's an
: interesting enough image to try. I treated it as a straight
street
: scene with black and white done in NIK:
:
:
https://photos.smugmug.com/AUE-Temp/...016-10-04B.jpg
:
: I got to looking at this (above) and decided it's just too
dark. If
: there are figures in the image, you should be able to make them
out. I
: did a little dodging on the two figures with backpacks and the
middle
: guy walking towards the camera and processed it not-quite-so-dark
:
: https://photos.smugmug.com/AUE-Temp/...016-10-04G.jpg

Naa ... That just makes the scene look overexposed.

Bob


The contrast is much too high, for the mood I was attempting to
make.

I wanted to take a stab at variations from the raw file but
Photoshop C6's ACR doesn't support the D500.

Yup! Adobe stopped ACR updates for CS6 in 2015. The last one being ACR
9.1.1.

Unless you have an Adobe CC subscription, or Lightroom 6 the only
other
solution for any CS users with new cameras is to use the DNG
converter.
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/adobe-dng-converter.html


You can also get a RAW converter directly from Nikon, free.

Sure, but Ron is a CS6 user and it would probably be more useful for him
to be able to extend the capability of the non-subscription edition
Photoshop he owns and is familiar with, by being able to convert the
latest RAW files from all manufacturers, not just Nikon, to DNG. Then he
can use ACR to process those DNGs if they originate from a D500 or any
other new camera, and continue using PS CS6.

...and the Adobe DNG converter is free.

It would be nice to have the latest ACR version but the version I have
works with all my current cameras. This news group is the only place
I've encountered other formats.

I downloaded the Adobe DNG converter and it didn't work on that file.

I suspect you might have done something wrong.

I just downloaded the latest DNG Converter 9.7 and I was able to produce
a DNG from Peter's D500 NEF without issue.
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/1295663/DNG/_DSC1920.dng

I downloaded the Nikon converter and it worked just fine. [Thanks PeterN]

I may play with that photo a bit more later, but this thread has about
run
its course so not much more to add.

==
Later...
Ron C

On 10/9/2016 9:29 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-10-10 00:00:30 +0000, Ron C said:

On 10/9/2016 6:27 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-10-09 22:15:25 +0000, PeterN said:
On 10/9/2016 2:36 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2016-10-09 18:00:36 +0000, Ron C said:
On 10/8/2016 12:08 PM, PeterN wrote:
On 10/7/2016 9:42 AM, Robert Coe wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 01:29:16 -0400, Tony Cooper

wrote:
: On Wed, 05 Oct 2016 00:20:07 -0400, Tony Cooper
: wrote:
:
:
: However, I will play. I don't do this often, but I think
it's an
: interesting enough image to try. I treated it as a straight
street
: scene with black and white done in NIK:
:
:
https://photos.smugmug.com/AUE-Temp/...016-10-04B.jpg
:
: I got to looking at this (above) and decided it's just too
dark. If
: there are figures in the image, you should be able to make them
out. I
: did a little dodging on the two figures with backpacks and the
middle
: guy walking towards the camera and processed it not-quite-so-dark
:
: https://photos.smugmug.com/AUE-Temp/...016-10-04G.jpg

Naa ... That just makes the scene look overexposed.

Bob


The contrast is much too high, for the mood I was attempting to
make.

I wanted to take a stab at variations from the raw file but
Photoshop C6's ACR doesn't support the D500.

Yup! Adobe stopped ACR updates for CS6 in 2015. The last one being ACR
9.1.1.

Unless you have an Adobe CC subscription, or Lightroom 6 the only
other
solution for any CS users with new cameras is to use the DNG
converter.
https://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop/using/adobe-dng-converter.html


You can also get a RAW converter directly from Nikon, free.

Sure, but Ron is a CS6 user and it would probably be more useful for him
to be able to extend the capability of the non-subscription edition
Photoshop he owns and is familiar with, by being able to convert the
latest RAW files from all manufacturers, not just Nikon, to DNG. Then he
can use ACR to process those DNGs if they originate from a D500 or any
other new camera, and continue using PS CS6.

...and the Adobe DNG converter is free.

It would be nice to have the latest ACR version but the version I have
works with all my current cameras. This news group is the only place
I've encountered other formats.

I downloaded the Adobe DNG converter and it didn't work on that file.

I suspect you might have done something wrong.

..snip..

I gave it another try and it worked this time.
Don't know what I did wrong the first time.
Thanks
==
Later...
Ron C
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