Splatwise it went.

'It' in this case being my wife's Canon G12.

All this happened some months ago in the high altitudes of the
Himalayan foot hills. The principal evidence being a bend in the ring
surrounding the lens. The camera continued to work succesfully until
recent weeks when on start up it periodically displayed a message:

"Lens Error

The camera will shut down automatically.
Restart the camera" ... or something like that.

We have taken it into Canon who tell us that the world is nearly out
of parts to fix this problem, but even so, they can fix it now for
about the price of what they consider to be an equivalent camera.

The question is "What do we do?".

My wife is adamant that she wants an optical view finder. Canon tells
us that they are removing optical view finders from all of their
cameras below DSLRs.

One option is to repair the G12 with which my wife is entirely happy.
The other option is to buy a ....... what?

Any suggestions will be gratefully received.


Just to add to the complication, Canon are nearly out of lens
assemblies for G12s and they have two more coming in for unknown
repairs. It looks as though if we are going to follow that route we
will have to make a decision FAST.

Life's a bummer.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Tue, 13 Sep 2016 20:19:43 +1200, Eric Stevens wrote:

One option is to repair the G12 with which my wife is entirely happy.
The other option is to buy a ....... what?

It's a no brainer, your wife likes the camera so tell her you love her
and have it repaired.

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In article , Eric Stevens wrote:

My wife is adamant that she wants an optical view finder. Canon
tells us that they are removing optical view finders from all of
their cameras below DSLRs.

Well, the obvious question here is - has she tried a modern EVF?

If she has and still insist, there are still some options:

Fujifilm X10, X20 and X100 series
Canon G15, G16, G1X, A1200, A1400

Newest one is the Fujifilm X100T from september 2014, retails around $1,300.
The X20 from januari 2013 goes for around $500. Both are great cameras.

The Canon G16 is from August 2013 and retails around $380.

Or get her a Leica.


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Sandman

On 13/09/2016 09:19, Eric Stevens wrote:
'It' in this case being my wife's Canon G12.
[]
One option is to repair the G12 with which my wife is entirely happy.
The other option is to buy a ....... what?

Any suggestions will be gratefully received.
[]

Second-hand G12 on one of the auction sites? Amazon have them second
hand. Refurbished from Canon?

Perhaps your wife might look at a micro-four-thirds which can offer
excellent quality while lacking the weight and bulk of a DSLR.

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In article ,
Eric Stevens wrote:

'It' in this case being my wife's Canon G12.

All this happened some months ago in the high altitudes of the
Himalayan foot hills. The principal evidence being a bend in the ring
surrounding the lens. The camera continued to work succesfully until
recent weeks when on start up it periodically displayed a message:

"Lens Error

The camera will shut down automatically.
Restart the camera" ... or something like that.

We have taken it into Canon who tell us that the world is nearly out
of parts to fix this problem, but even so, they can fix it now for
about the price of what they consider to be an equivalent camera.

The question is "What do we do?".

My wife is adamant that she wants an optical view finder. Canon tells
us that they are removing optical view finders from all of their
cameras below DSLRs.

No OVF but EVF, but if she likes Canon:

https://www.parkcameras.com/p/101007...on/powershot-g
5-x-compact-camera

This kit includes a snapp on EVF:

https://www.parkcameras.com/p/101007...on/powershot-g
1-x-mark-ii-compact-camera-premium-kit

The OVFs on modern compacts ain't very good so if I where you them a
would bend the wife's arm up her back and make go to the store and try
one of the above! Just tell her that it hurts you more than her (those
are not made by Nikon you know...) and then cease to beat her pronto,
BTW!

One option is to repair the G12 with which my wife is entirely happy.
The other option is to buy a ....... what?

Any suggestions will be gratefully received.


Just to add to the complication, Canon are nearly out of lens
assemblies for G12s and they have two more coming in for unknown
repairs. It looks as though if we are going to follow that route we
will have to make a decision FAST.

Life's a bummer.
--
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On 2016-09-13 08:19:43 +0000, Eric Stevens said:

'It' in this case being my wife's Canon G12.

All this happened some months ago in the high altitudes of the
Himalayan foot hills. The principal evidence being a bend in the ring
surrounding the lens. The camera continued to work succesfully until
recent weeks when on start up it periodically displayed a message:

"Lens Error

The camera will shut down automatically.
Restart the camera" ... or something like that.

We have taken it into Canon who tell us that the world is nearly out
of parts to fix this problem, but even so, they can fix it now for
about the price of what they consider to be an equivalent camera.

The question is "What do we do?".

My wife is adamant that she wants an optical view finder. Canon tells
us that they are removing optical view finders from all of their
cameras below DSLRs.

One option is to repair the G12 with which my wife is entirely happy.
The other option is to buy a ....... what?

Any suggestions will be gratefully received.


Just to add to the complication, Canon are nearly out of lens
assemblies for G12s and they have two more coming in for unknown
repairs. It looks as though if we are going to follow that route we
will have to make a decision FAST.

Life's a bummer.

I would start with Amazon, and here there seem to be a good mix of new
and used G12's, but for the same cost it might be a good opportunity to
upgrade. Consider a G15 or G16 if she wants to stick to the Canon "G"
use model. The G16 being a pretty good upgrade option.

The thing to consider is, there are fewer to zero compact digital
cameras being produced with an OVF so most of what are out there are
discontinued or older models, and the only option is to buy used from
Amazon or eBay.

Then there are some pretty good compacts with EVF's, such as the Fujifilm X30.
http://www.fujifilm.com/products/digital_cameras/x/fujifilm_x30/

Otherwise I still have my G11 which works just fine. I just don't know
if the FedEx to NZ would be cost effective.


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Regards,

Savageduck

On 2016-09-13 10:10:22 +0000, Sandman said:

In article , Eric Stevens wrote:

My wife is adamant that she wants an optical view finder. Canon
tells us that they are removing optical view finders from all of
their cameras below DSLRs.

Well, the obvious question here is - has she tried a modern EVF?

If she has and still insist, there are still some options:

Fujifilm X10, X20 and X100 series
Canon G15, G16, G1X, A1200, A1400

Newest one is the Fujifilm X100T from september 2014, retails around $1,300.
The X20 from januari 2013 goes for around $500. Both are great cameras.

The Canon G16 is from August 2013 and retails around $380.

Or get her a Leica.

Those are all good options. However, there are a few things to
consider, there are not too many of those to be found new, and the
X100T is not truly a compact and it has a fixed focal length lens and a
hydrid OVF/EVF. That fixed lens is very good, but the hybrid OVF/EVF
comes at a price, and the X100T has a much higher price than any of the
other compacts. Otherwise, I see that there are still new and used
G12's available via Amazon.

The X10 and X20 are good suggestions, but finding a new one is going to
be tough, but if Eric's wife would go for a EVF there is the X30.

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Regards,

Savageduck

On 2016-09-13 12:10:22 +0200, Sandman said:

Or get her a Leica.

Eric is a chepoo. Don't you remember how long it took him to get
himself beyond APS-C? ;-)
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teleportation kills

On 13 Sep 2016 10:10:22 GMT, Sandman wrote:

Canon G15, G16,

The OVF on my G16 is crap. It is badly distorted, and I believe that
this is a very common problem with this camera, and might even be
normal.

On 2016-09-13 15:56:46 +0000, Bill W said:

On 13 Sep 2016 10:10:22 GMT, Sandman wrote:

Canon G15, G16,

The OVF on my G16 is crap. It is badly distorted, and I believe that
this is a very common problem with this camera, and might even be
normal.

OVF on most compact cameras are crap. The OVF on the Canon G series has
been pretty much the same from the G10 to the G16.They are a compromise
so that you have an alternative to the LCD.

EVF's have improved to the point that in some cases they are superior
to OVF's, and the EVF's and hybrid OVF/EVFs found on the mirrorless
cameras today are very good. The problem with EVF lag has been
minimized to the point that it is hardly worth mentioning.

Personally I hate using the LCD out at arms length for any
framing/composition and I am prepared to tolerate a mediocre OVF to
avoid that annoyance. The only camera I will tolerate that with is my
iPhone, and then it is my camera of last resort.

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Regards,

Savageduck