Depth of field - two of them?

On Sun, 24 Feb 2019 20:41:20 -0000, David in Devon wrote:

On 24/02/2019 18:52, Commander Kinsey wrote:
I called the teacher a sissy and left the room while they laughed at him.

You are *Bad*!!!! ;-)

I can't stand nonsense. I once told an RNLI guy that he was unfit for his job because he was scared of cold water.

On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 17:24:49 -0500, nospam
wrote:

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:

Or why you expect a 7 year old iPad3 to be the same speed as a new PC.

I don't.

So how were you comparing things ?

I don't know why you keep concentrating on the iPad when (a) for most
applications the human interface on a tablet is significantly
different from that on a desk top

that's a good thing, and not relevant to the topic.

and (b) not withstanding nospam,
congested wifi vs ethernet must always end up with ethernet being the
winner.

absolutely false. where do you come up with this ****?

only if you have 10g-e (and you don't) will wired ethernet be faster.

gigabit ethernet is a *bottleneck* for wifi. it's too slow.

Entirely by coincidence, this morning I encountered an advertisement
(on my iPad) from a local firm which specialises in in wifi
installations. Now I know these guys have got an axe to grind but they
also stand or fall by the work they do. The following is a relevant
extract:

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"We often get asked if cables are necessary in the age of 'wireless
everything'.

The truth is - cables are more necessary than ever. The ISP supplied
hardware is fine for a smaller house (less than 100 sqm depending on
what it's constructed from). Wi-Fi is too high frequency to be able to
travel through lots of walls and floors effectively, so to have great
Wi-Fi throughout your home you need several transmitters wired back to
a central point. This is exactly how Wi-Fi is provided in hotels and
offices... we use the same strategy for our client's homes.

Older homes like villas and bungalows while not generally large in
size they will suffer from WiFi penetration issues because for the
density of the wall coverings (Plasterboard fixed to Sarking).

Multi story properties, L shape or H shaped homes will suffer from
WiFI dead spots and buffering issues (speed) because of the physical
shape, and sometimes the sheer size of the house.

Homes constructed with lots of steel, glass and concrete (most modern
homes) will also suffer from WiFi penetration issues because of the
actual materials used are not conducive to good WiFi penetration.

Lastly your neighbours can also have a big effect on your WiFi,
especially true in modern high density townhouse developments, and
apartments, which can often suffer from WiFi saturation causing speed
issues and range reduction.

A cabled internet connection is still 10 x faster than the fastest
wireless connection, so where possible we try and cable all video
streaming devices. This helps reduce the dreaded buffering wheel from
appearing when you are trying to watch your favourite Netflix show or
Movie.
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The relevant web page may be found at
https://www.smartinstallations.co.nz/wifi/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAwc7jBRD8ARIsAKSUBHKdR8Cpm5z_80v1kvP eSugA_WRi0iqip52y7DwLoCxPG7mf3-345PEaAsyrEALw_wcB
or http://tinyurl.com/y3z5vqjr
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

In article , Eric Stevens
wrote:


and (b) not withstanding nospam,
congested wifi vs ethernet must always end up with ethernet being the
winner.

absolutely false. where do you come up with this ****?

only if you have 10g-e (and you don't) will wired ethernet be faster.

gigabit ethernet is a *bottleneck* for wifi. it's too slow.

Entirely by coincidence, this morning I encountered an advertisement
(on my iPad) from a local firm which specialises in in wifi
installations.

from what you've quoted, it looks like they make up **** about wifi so
they can sell *wired* installations.

Now I know these guys have got an axe to grind but they
also stand or fall by the work they do. The following is a relevant
extract:

they are scammers.

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"We often get asked if cables are necessary in the age of 'wireless
everything'.

The truth is - cables are more necessary than ever.

false.

The ISP supplied
hardware is fine for a smaller house (less than 100 sqm depending on
what it's constructed from).

it's generally not very good and best not to use it, ideally not at
all, but if that's not possible, only for an uplink.

Wi-Fi is too high frequency to be able to
travel through lots of walls and floors effectively,

false.

so to have great
Wi-Fi throughout your home you need several transmitters wired back to
a central point.

otherwise known as mesh, and there are numerous companies offering mesh
products, without their unnecessary 'installation'.

This is exactly how Wi-Fi is provided in hotels and
offices... we use the same strategy for our client's homes.

actually not. they're *very* different in all sorts of ways.

Older homes like villas and bungalows while not generally large in
size they will suffer from WiFi penetration issues because for the
density of the wall coverings (Plasterboard fixed to Sarking).

not really.

Multi story properties, L shape or H shaped homes will suffer from
WiFI dead spots and buffering issues (speed) because of the physical
shape, and sometimes the sheer size of the house.

not really, but that's what mesh is for.

Homes constructed with lots of steel, glass and concrete (most modern
homes) will also suffer from WiFi penetration issues because of the
actual materials used are not conducive to good WiFi penetration.

modern homes are not built out of steel and concrete, but for the ones
that are, it just means a couple of more mesh units.

Lastly your neighbours can also have a big effect on your WiFi,
especially true in modern high density townhouse developments, and
apartments, which can often suffer from WiFi saturation causing speed
issues and range reduction.

not true.

A cabled internet connection is still 10 x faster than the fastest
wireless connection,

definitely not true unless it's 10gig-e, which nearly everyone does
*not* have.

they are also confusing the internet connection with the local network.

these guys are scammers, preying on the uninformed.

so where possible we try and cable all video
streaming devices. This helps reduce the dreaded buffering wheel from
appearing when you are trying to watch your favourite Netflix show or
Movie.

of course they try to cable all video streaming devices, because they
get paid for all that extra work.

video streaming does *not* need super-high bandwidth.

do not hire them. they're sleazy scammers.

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The relevant web page may be found at
https://www.smartinstallations.co.nz/wifi/?gclid=Cj0KCQiAwc7jBRD8ARIsAKSUBHKdR8Cpm5z_80v1kvP eSugA_WRi0iqip52y7DwLoCxPG7mf3-345PEaAsyrEALw_wcB
or http://tinyurl.com/y3z5vqjr

accredited wifi?

what the hell are they smoking?

On Tue, 26 Feb 2019 01:38:57 -0800 (PST), Whisky-dave
wrote:

On Monday, 25 February 2019 21:12:38 UTC, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Tue, 19 Feb 2019 17:24:49 -0500, nospam
wrote:


Entirely by coincidence, this morning I encountered an advertisement
(on my iPad) from a local firm which specialises in in wifi
installations. Now I know these guys have got an axe to grind but they
also stand or fall by the work they do. The following is a relevant
extract:

The clues are there in the word "advertisement".

BTW If you want better prints buy one of these expensive USB cables that cost more than your ipad does per metre so the digital signal is cleaner and doesn't contain any dust that could get printed wheh using cheaper cables.
I have one here you can have 2 metres normally just $1000, but I'll do it for $700.

I'm still saving up so I can afford a proper power lead for my hi fi
system.
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Regards,

Eric Stevens

On Tue, 12 Feb 2019 17:07:33 -0000, Whisky-dave wrote:

On Sunday, 10 February 2019 21:51:34 UTC, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 05 Feb 2019 12:30:22 -0000, Whisky-dave wrote:

And why do you need to know what they're printing?

Because someone has to pay for it. we aren;t talking about a few pages but 1000s of pages.

They pay when they order more paper and ink.

No they don't we have a system that counts pages each individual student prints , the studetns get a free allownce of say 100 pages per term or similar, after that they have to buy page credits at about 4p per page, their library/student card.

You mean *******s!

They claimed that using the colour photocopier they rented from Xerox was only 6p a page vs. 14p a page for inkjet. I looked into it. 14p a page was using HP printers with genuine HP ink. Using the Brother printers I bought on Ebay, with fake ink, was 1p a page.

Who pays for the paper and ink ? as that's where he money goes.

WTF? 1p a page is far less than 6p a page.

Who pays for teh paper and ink.
We pay 4p and get 'free' paper and free ink.

The 1p includes the paper and the ink. Paper is 0.5p a page, so is ink.

But we don't have to pay for the printers they are FREE.

Really? You got them from freecycle did you?

That;s why they don;t loike staff buying individual printers because they cost money and we get printers for free.
And servicing is FREE, so when they die FREE replacements.

Paid for by who? A different department? [Facepalm]

who pays for any maintaonce adn downtime or are you saying brother printer never go wrong.

At £30 a printer, I just bought another one. When I had spare time, I'd see if any were worth fixing.

Which they aren't.

They often were, especially if two failed in a different way. A simple swapping of a part.

Someone comes in and while that printer isn't working the queue is diverted to another printer.

What has that to do with repairing printers? Do keep up at the back.

Not for us as we get it free. I can go down stairs and pick up a couple of boxes which is 4 or 5 reams per box it's free.

Paper is not free.

It is for us.

Donated by a charity is it?

We only pay for the amount printed in the laser printers, if I use my old inkjet I can use their paper for free, if I want to use their paper as arse wipe it's still free. Hand it out to students for free.



No, where did you get that idea from. IT services do all the IT services, including buying 96 PCs from dell, and external monitors.

You told me about an external drive you got form PC World. Remember I found it on Ebay and it was the same price, from PC World Ebay!

Yes I bought for my own personal use at home, I doubt a 4TB HD would be big enough to back up data from 96 PCs being used by 350+ students.
We have about 200 servers in the department that do that and other stuff.

I assumed it was for a single student's project.

Others might not have access to the flamamble chemical store.
But I guess you want everyone to have access to the infectous diseases section.

WTF are you talking about?

We haven't differnt card access for differnt types of people I have elec eng staff but that won't allow to into the infectious desease section in the university.

Like keys have diffent locks they can open, our cards work in a similar way.
If a student isn't registared on the course which is run in my lab, then they canlt get through the door. (unless tailgating)

Irrelevant to what we were talking about - distance between sensor and card.

You have a system where each person swipes a card

No swipe just hold it up within a inch or so of the 'scanner'

and is allowed through a certain door. All I'm suggesting is that the card is detectable from a few feet away, so you just have to approach the door without putting down what you're carrying to get the card out of your pocket.

So as I walk past the door it just opens even if I don't want to go in it.
You can't even see what a disater that would be can you.

Obviously you don't make it that sensitive. But if you're stood right in front of the door, it should unlock. The card being in your jeans pocket 3 feet from thee scanner. Why make you remove the card form your pocket when you're carrying a load of stuff?

Savageduck
news.com Sat, 19
Jan 2019 23:59:12 GMT in rec.photo.digital, wrote:

On Jan 19, 2019, Commander Kinsey wrote
I can only comment on what I've seen between David and Diesel.
Diesel appears to be an utter arsehole.

Well, I can only agree. His methodology is not one I would employ,
or endorse.

That's because neither of you knows the story behind David Brooks and
myself. If you did, you might not think I'm the complete arsehole here.
I'm just not one to accept the garbage he spewed in my direction
without sending him a few truckloads back for his trouble. I'm okay
with those who don't know all the facts mistaking me for the righteous
asshole due to the way in which I chose to respond to his stalking.




--
'When war is declared, Truth is the first casualty.'--Arthur Ponsonby

nospam
Sat, 09 Feb 2019
15:18:28 GMT in rec.photo.digital, wrote:

In article , David B.
wrote:

On 2/8/19 10:27 AM, wrote:
In article , David B.
wrote:
Can I use my iMac Bluetooth Keypad to control my iPad?

you? probably not, but others certainly can.

you have difficulty doing even the most basic things.


looks like i was *exactly* on target.

Since I have neither an iMac Bluetooth keypad or iPad, I can't
say how helpful the info at the cite is, but it may be a
starting point. Hopefully it is more helpful than nospam's
response.

my response was not intended to be helpful because the person
asking is an ignorant retarded troll.

Utter rubbish. You simply don't know how to do it! :-P

there's nothing to know. it 'just works'.

at least for others, it does.

I doubt it can be done without using an App from the Apple App
store.

what apps did you use to connect a keyboard to your mac and pc?


OH ****! nospam, I want a new keyboard, one new mouse, one cable
that probably shouldn't have been where it was. Oh, and a new blue
dew; that one was nearly full.


--
At least Congress doesn't make death worse every year.

On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:57:26 -0000, Whisky-dave wrote:

On Thursday, 14 February 2019 20:45:26 UTC, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Tue, 05 Feb 2019 12:30:22 -0000, Whisky-dave wrote:

On Monday, 4 February 2019 22:58:27 UTC, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 01 Feb 2019 15:27:41 -0000, Whisky-dave wrote:

And I don't think I coudl carry 30 odd 2 & 3 metre tables on my own.

Can't you just ask the nearest student for a hand?

No, H&S what if they get a back injury

People can look after themselves, why do you subscribe to this blame society bull**** we used to laugh at the Americans for?

I sill need a place to store such things, and if I had that we wouldn't need to get rid of them. The benches need removing so the contractors can get in a refurbish this 1960s building with NO working heating.

Oh you poor thing, ever heard of a jacket?

and who will do their lab while they are moving stuff onto a lorry or wherever it will go, that is NOT while they are paying £9k home student £14K+ per years overseas student.

You find someone not doing anything, or on a lunch break.

What do you think a lunch break is for ?

Doing things you don't get round to during working hours.

I wouldn't do it in my lunch break.

Just goes to show you don't care for your work.

And to find someone not doing anyhting I;d have to leave the lab to find them.
Then that would be another job I'd need to find someone to do.
It really is best to gibe the jobs to those that were trained to do them.

You don't need to be trained to carry something.

Just because you have nothing better to do than cart furniture about that isn't true of most of us.

So for that they need putting somewhere were people will know where they are and can get to them and some whay of deciding who can have them.

Hence the freecycle advert.

That's up to those responsible, but you have to check that someone isn't selling/giving away stuff that someone else in the college wants.

Who cares who gets it as long as it's used? Obviously it's easier to advertise it locally first. People would send an email round asking if anyone wanted some computer chairs. I'm actually sitting on one right now. It started out life in the Navy, then a school, then in my house.

When I wanted a desk for my office I contacted our facilities manager and he went over to teh furniture store to see what was there and avaible, next day a second hand desk was delivered to me. sure it had one dodgey leg and one draw that kept sticking but ok for me, far better than the one I had. They took that away with them.

Clearly if you had 1000s of things coming in they could object, but the odd thing isn't a problem.

No the odd thing wouldn't but what like you I decided to buy a printer every few weeks ?
And with the smaller elec. components I deal with, I usually visit the postroom 1-2 times a day anyway, but everything now needs to be signed for.

That's the postroom's job!

With 4000 staff memebers all wanting persnal items being delivered to the college could cause problems as the line between what belongs in and to the colleg and what is personal. They have this problem with car parking we have close to 4,500 members of staff and more than 25,000 students.

If a building doesn't have enough car parking, it needs redesigned. We had a lack of parking, I just parked on the grass or in a disabled space.. Not my problem.

Sensible places allow the odd personal delivery, it really isn't that big a deal. They accept it's difficult for you to have stuff delivered to your house when you're at work.

They wouldn't mind on the odd occasion like they don't mind us taking the odd few hours off to go to the dentist or doctors but if every one decides to visit the dentist every week on afriday afternoon then it woukld cause problems and that sor tof thing has happened in the past and fopr some I expect it still happening.

I doubt you order anything like as much for yourself as you order for the college.

I never had that problem. A parcel arrived with my name on it, it was delivered to my office or I was emailed, depending how busy they were.

Same her but with 4000 staff and 15,000+ student and 4 postroom staff.
That;s why I had to fiund space here for 96 PC's with external monitors, they didn;t have enough space in the post room or the staff.

What exactly is the problem?

How much space do you think 96 all-in-one PC's and their 24" monitors take up. ?

They phone you and ask you to collect surely?

Nothing to do with me it's an external company paid to install and cut the holes in the tables/benches, apparently they were doing it at the weekend.
They needed deliverign first and if I'm working on the 2nd floor then I can't be on the 3rd floor moving them around.

You should have bought desks with holes already in them.

No we wanted them where we wanted them not were B&Q wanted them.

Last time I ordered desks, we just specified the hole positions. They came as we needed them.

But we had them install 6 mains sockets, with 4 USB ports, 4 ethernet ports.
Also included beskoke cupbaords to our design and castors on each desk, and some end desks that can be alterd for wheel chair users.
Lightnign is now above bench LED tubes with ambeint light sensors, over head heating panels, and air conditioning. So we now have a 21st century lab rather than the 19th we currenlty have.

Sounds like overkill. Did you have an end of year budget to fill or something? We kept doing that. "Must spend this by the end of the month", so money got wasted. If only they allowed budgets to run to the next year, things could be bought that were really needed.

I had those on a strip going along the wall before the desks were fitted. They were put in by an electrician. The wires popped up through the relevant holes.

Why did an electrician put them in, couldn't you have done that yourself ?

I could have done, but a huge extension was being built and they got some Irishmen in for cheap. Stupid idea really, they caused two electrical fires - the first one they managed to put 415V to 240V sockets in two classrooms, causing many computers to catch fire. The second one they shorted the main incoming feed from Scottish Power who were ****ing livid. They had to bring in a 3 phase generator the size of a lorry while they fixed it. The Irish should stick to digging.

That's what we have in our 19th century lab, it's very dated and no where near the number of sockets we actually need. to run a lab.
When it was built we didn't even have a computer in the college that came later.
We didn't install that ourselves either.
https://vimeo.com/77387308

I told them how many sockets I wanted, and doubled the number of ethernet ports they had on the plans.

We have also had cupboards made to our own specs including them being locable with a padlock, most cupboards usually have keys which would be a disater handing out keys to students.

And padlocks don't have keys?!

Ours have combinations, that way I can give out the combination to each student who needs access. No wories about them losing the key or having to get 6 keys cut for each lock.

Last combination lock I saw, some **** managed to change the combination so nobody knew what it was. I walked into the class brandishing a huge pair of bolt cutters and sliced it off.

We don't stock those sorts of things that's what IT services are for.

On Mon, 25 Feb 2019 11:56:16 -0000, Whisky-dave wrote:

On Sunday, 24 February 2019 18:52:24 UTC, Commander Kinsey wrote:
On Fri, 15 Feb 2019 11:57:26 -0000, Whisky-dave wrote:


The only skips are those of the building contractors.

So you do reuse the furniture.

I don't the college decides on what happenes to it.

Jobsworth.

I just used freecycle if nobody within the building wanted them.

We aren't allowed to do that.

Please sir yes sir anything you say sir.

And I never threw away a single computer. Somebody always wanted them. Even 50 Mac Classics I once found shoved in a store room because my predecessor didn't want to pay the £20 charge for each to scrap them. I MADE £20 each by putting them on Ebay as antiques.

differnt areas of our department where allowed to buy ours.
Then they offer such things to senior staff members or their reseach groups.

None would have taken a Classic.

I doubt many on ebay really considered them antiques.

Then why did they pay £20 for something with **** all power compared to a new one and a tiny black and white screen?

But I bet a PC from that era wouldn't have sold.

You'd be surprised.

Who am I going to give it away too ? and if it has no value why would they want it.

There's always somebody that will want anything. Bloody hell I even managed to give away concrete slabs from my garden. Why the hell anyone would want that **** I don't know, but they took them away.

Hardcore usually.

Some people actually seem to like paving slabs. Slabs and gravel are for council houses as far as I'm concerned. I have monoblock.

You see we have other people to do menial tasks like moving furniture, cleaning up sick etc...

And I just did what was necessary to get the job done.

Because that's your job not mine.

We had the same job.

I doubt that.

What is your official title? And don't write "Lord of the Realm".

I was the computer tech, but I'd lug stuff about or change lightbulbs, whatever needed doing.

So a general dogs body nothing wrong with that we do need such people.

It wasn't my job title though. A lot of folk would only do what they were paid to do. I didn't care.

I did that once but soon learnt you get **** on, then everyone thinks yuor the sick cleaner or tea boy.

Obviously I didn't clean up ****. But I don't see the problem with changing a bulb while I'm in a room installing software.

What's the point in wasting time passing around requests to other people?

To find the best most skilled person to do that particualr job.

But if you can do it yourself, it's most efficient to just do it.

No it isn't presently I'm the only member of staff in the lab if I leave the lab to clear up sick, or even go and collect the post I'm not allowed to leave the lab unattended so all the 20 students here will have to leave, which means the whole timetable will have to be rescheduled.
Why do you think we employ cleaners ?

Is your employer called Hitler?

in fact w eemploy someone part time now who was sent of a coffee making course by the makers of the machine.

A course to make coffee? Well that's the biggest waste of money and time I've ever heard of.

I agree but it was one of those machines you see in cafe's, and the training course included how to clean and maintain them.
Perhaps yuo tbhink it more effecient to get an adademic who's on £80k to spot lectuering or doing research and get then to clean or serve coffee.

We just had a normal coffee machine which people have in their own kitchen. Anyone wanting coffee used it themselves.

Someone would tell me they needed their computer fixed and also one of the light tubes was gone. I'd bring both with me and save time.
We have 1000s of PC's in the college and in my lab 40 double fluorescent tubes, when a few are on the blink we contact maintaince, who bring new tubes over with a ladder and replaces them,

Why, are you scared of ladders?

I'm not scared of them, but I don't have a ladder in the lab.

I just borrowed one form the nearest janitor.

Lighting cost comes from a different budget if I did them the cost would come out of the teaching budget,

I just took a tube from the janitor's store.

I asked for LED lighting the cost was £3k to replace the tubes, I didnl't want us spending such an amount when we have far more useful things we need like a high current PSU or a wireless meter.

When I started we actually had incandescent lighting! I emailed the business manager, the janitors, and the science teacher who was a bit of a greenie and told them all where CFLs could be bought.

downstairs the ceiling is over 40 foot high 3 floors.

Are you scared of heights? Go do a parachute jump it might cure you.

Who's going to pay for that, and who'll do my job while I go and do it..

It's fun, call it a holiday.

And what is the point when we have a maintaince department set up for things like that, they have all the tools needed.

Like a ladder. Which is really difficult to use....

If there's a big turd blocking the toilet then we have people to deal with it.

I'd draw the line at fixing that!

Why are you scared of turds ?

I'm not scared, I'm disgusted.

When a student from another college arrived and started asking for things he wasn't entitled to have we phoned security. He was from another uni and had attacked a technician there with an machet after the tech there refused to do a job for him.

Then the tech should have done his job and done what he was asked to do.

He was doing his job.

What job did he refuse to do?

I sill need a place to store such things, and if I had that we wouldn't need to get rid of them. The benches need removing so the contractors can get in a refurbish this 1960s building with NO working heating.

Oh my god no heating? You might die! :-)

The college wasn't worried about me in a 5C lab, even two of the servers weren;t working properly we has to use a hair dryer to ge them working.

I had a 386 like that once. It said "parity error" on bootup if it was damp.

Well I didnlt te4h IT guys borrowed two of my hair dryers. When the female studetns started pointing out the H&S said that the minium temp should be 16C and they have the right to complain because the college wasn't obeying the 1992 factories act, which we are legally have to, soemthing was then done.

****ing typical. Any bloody excuse not to work. Have they not heard of jackets?

I remember when we had temporary huts while some building work was taking place. They hadn't allowed enough power to heat all the huts at once, they hadn't expected every teacher to turn on all 4 heaters at the same time, so they kept tripping the breakers. Most of them were quite happy when I went round and said you can use only 3. But one was an arse and said it's too cold, I need 4. I said if you put the 4th one on, the breaker trips, and I won't bother resetting it again. He got more angry, so I asked the kids who was cold. None put their hand up. I called the teacher a sissy and left the room while they laughed at him.

Did that solve the problem.

Well the breaker didn't trip again and he never mentioned it in the coffee room, so I guess so.