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"SMS" wrote in message
... Skip M wrote: When the E-1 was introduced, it was aimed at the pro market... So was the Sigma SD9. Not really, I can't believe that, despite claims by both the mfr and Steve G. that Sigma had any real expectation that the SD9 would work as a pro camera, since the film body upon which it was based was never considered at that level, not even by Sigma. On the other hand, Oly built the E-1 with features that, had it had image collecting hardware to match, certainly would have put it in the pro class, like the weather sealing. -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com |
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 12:19:58 GMT, "Pete D" wrote:
"RichA" wrote in message .. . On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 07:09:40 GMT, "Pete D" wrote: "RichA" wrote in message ... Apparently, there is another price drop scheduled for Aug 1st, according to one source. This means the E-300 might (incredibly) be even less than it is now for the body and two zooms. Also, the E-1 is dropping in price as well. It's possible this will never happen again. Yeah right, of course they will drop again. Both cameras (especially the E-1) are better built than the current crop of entry-level DSLRs from other mfgs By who's reckoning? Did you review them? Well, the E-300 isn't all plastic, like some other cameras at the entry level and the E-1 is in a class above the Canon 20D in terms of build quality. Aside from the top end Canon and Nikons, there is nothing comparable to it as far as build quality goes. and the lenses are good quality for their pedigree. The two new cameras Olympus is releasing (apparently, not until at least Mar 06) are going to be "high end" replacements, one for the E-1 the other, unsure at the moment. If they are high end the how are they replacments? They would just be "other" cameras in the range. One is to replace the E-1 which is high end. I'm pretty certain something radically different (better?) Better? go figure??? is coming from them, but the urge to get something now to take advantage of the pricing today is strong. One day Rich I am sure you will stop trolling and actually buy one and take some photos. We live for the day. The only people who think "troll" are those unintelligent enough and rabid enough to be baited by something completely harmless. Besides, I have taken photos with them. I just haven't bought one of them yet. The DSLR people could take a hint from the prosumer users and try taking some pictures for a change though. You look at the forums on dpreview and most of the posts for the DSLR groups are endless discussions of which lens to buy next and how it's taking more and more money from them whereas the prosumers posts tend to include FAR more actual pictures taken. -Rich You need to get on some different forums then like I do, join one that is about photography not about mines bigger than yours. I suppose if the structure of the groups was more about specific topics than camera makes it would be possible. -Rich |
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 10:18:26 -0700, "Skip M"
wrote: "SMS" wrote in message ... Skip M wrote: When the E-1 was introduced, it was aimed at the pro market... So was the Sigma SD9. Not really, I can't believe that, despite claims by both the mfr and Steve G. that Sigma had any real expectation that the SD9 would work as a pro camera, since the film body upon which it was based was never considered at that level, not even by Sigma. On the other hand, Oly built the E-1 with features that, had it had image collecting hardware to match, certainly would have put it in the pro class, like the weather sealing. There are still magazines claiming the Fuji S-3 is a consumer camera and it's nothing of the sort. -Rich |
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 11:16:04 -0400, Alan Browne
wrote: RichA wrote: moment. I'm pretty certain something radically different (better?) is coming from them, but the urge to get something now to take advantage of the pricing today is strong. What lenses / flash system do you currently own? Where do you want to leverage your investment? Where do you want to lock yourself in? Cheers, Alan. Zero. I sold all my SLR equipment because I assumed since the move was to digital, it would be rendered useless/worthless. Even Olympus didn't cooperate initially, only coming out with a OM lens adapter after people complained there was none. So, the field is open. -Rich |
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On Sat, 30 Jul 2005 15:57:01 GMT, SMS
wrote: Alan Browne wrote: RichA wrote: moment. I'm pretty certain something radically different (better?) is coming from them, but the urge to get something now to take advantage of the pricing today is strong. What lenses / flash system do you currently own? Where do you want to leverage your investment? Where do you want to lock yourself in? I think that for Olympus to survive in the D-SLR market, the next generation is going to have to be radically different. This must mean that they are abandoning 4:3 and moving to a larger, lower-noise, sensor. I wonder what lens mount they will use. They keep releasing new lenses which would seem (unless those lenses will support a larger sensor) that they mean to stay with 4/3. -Rich |
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"Skip M" wrote in message news:JeLGe.22762$HV1.875@fed1read07... "Pete D" wrote in message ... "RichA" wrote in message ... Apparently, there is another price drop scheduled for Aug 1st, according to one source. This means the E-300 might (incredibly) be even less than it is now for the body and two zooms. Also, the E-1 is dropping in price as well. It's possible this will never happen again. Yeah right, of course they will drop again. Both cameras (especially the E-1) are better built than the current crop of entry-level DSLRs from other mfgs By who's reckoning? Did you review them? and the lenses are good quality for their pedigree. The two new cameras Olympus is releasing (apparently, not until at least Mar 06) are going to be "high end" replacements, one for the E-1 the other, unsure at the moment. If they are high end the how are they replacments? They would just be "other" cameras in the range. When the E-1 was introduced, it was aimed at the pro market... How many have you seen the pro's using? |
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Pete D wrote:
You need to get on some different forums then like I do, join one that is about photography not about mines bigger than yours. And your below coment was meant as? Yes there are pro's using these just like there are pro's using nikon and canon. Just because they aren't using them on the sidelines of the football field doesn't mean "pro's" don't use them. ------------ When the E-1 was introduced, it was aimed at the pro market... How many have you seen the pro's using? ----------- Stacey |
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Skip M wrote:
but with weather sealing that comes close to the 1D. How is the 1D MORE weather sealed than the E1? Just wondering why you think YOUR brand MUST have better weather sealing.. -- Stacey |
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SMS wrote:
I think that for Olympus to survive in the D-SLR market, the next generation is going to have to be radically different. This must mean that they are abandoning 4:3 and moving to a larger, lower-noise, sensor. Why? Because -YOUR- main criteria is low noise at high ISOs? You're right if YOUR main concern is low noise at ISO 800 and up, the current olympus offerings aren't a good choice. There is more to image quality than this to me. -- Stacey |
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"Stacey" wrote in message ... Pete D wrote: You need to get on some different forums then like I do, join one that is about photography not about mines bigger than yours. And your below coment was meant as? Yes there are pro's using these just like there are pro's using nikon and canon. Just because they aren't using them on the sidelines of the football field doesn't mean "pro's" don't use them. You are actually serious, aren't you?? |
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