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  #1  
Old June 3rd 07, 09:51 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Annika1980
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Default 1D3: BETTER THAN THIS?

Here's an actual sized crop from a photo I took today:
http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/79898815/original

This was shot with my 20D at ISO 800.
This is a straight conversion from the RAW file with no other post-
processing done in Photoshop. To me, that looks like outstanding low-
noise performance from an ISO 800 shot. I want to see some samples
from the 1DMKIII at high ISO settings.
Preferably, something similar with a smooth OOF background where noise
would be obvious.

Get to it, PW!

BTW, I'd hate you less if you e-mailed me some RAW files shot with
your new cammy.

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Old June 3rd 07, 10:38 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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Default 1D3: BETTER THAN THIS?

On Jun 3, 4:51 pm, Annika1980 wrote:
Here's an actual sized crop from a photo I took today:http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/79898815/original

This was shot with my 20D at ISO 800.
This is a straight conversion from the RAW file with no other post-
processing done in Photoshop. To me, that looks like outstanding low-
noise performance from an ISO 800 shot. I want to see some samples
from the 1DMKIII at high ISO settings.
Preferably, something similar with a smooth OOF background where noise
would be obvious.

Get to it, PW!

BTW, I'd hate you less if you e-mailed me some RAW files shot with
your new cammy.


The 20D is well known for it's very low noise with high ISO numbers.
I admit I'm not an expert on it. But this pic Bret is absolutely
AWESOME!!
Great composition and exposure. Wow, I can even see the tiny hairs on
it's delicate legs. Beautiful shot!
Helen

  #3  
Old June 3rd 07, 11:05 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Scott W
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Default 1D3: BETTER THAN THIS?

On Jun 3, 10:51 am, Annika1980 wrote:
Here's an actual sized crop from a photo I took today:http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/79898815/original

This was shot with my 20D at ISO 800.
This is a straight conversion from the RAW file with no other post-
processing done in Photoshop. To me, that looks like outstanding low-
noise performance from an ISO 800 shot. I want to see some samples
from the 1DMKIII at high ISO settings.
Preferably, something similar with a smooth OOF background where noise
would be obvious.

Get to it, PW!

BTW, I'd hate you less if you e-mailed me some RAW files shot with
your new cammy.

Wow, very nice photo you got there.

BTW I would be more then happy to send a few raw files from a 1D3, but
first can you send me a 1D3?



Scott

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Old June 4th 07, 01:13 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
MarkČ
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Default BETTER THAN THIS?

To answer the subject line... Yes.

I hate shooting for tests...but I'll try to get on it.
Actually, the eye-ball shots were at 400 ISO...straight out of camera, and
shot in jpeg--so they didn't benefit from ANY raw conversion choices...
Here's one of those 100% crops:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79826760/original
If you try really hard, you might find noise in the darkness of the
pupil...but you won't find much in the "lit" areas, and certainly not in
areas lit as brightly as the butterfly background (green).

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Old June 4th 07, 01:16 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Annika1980
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Default BETTER THAN THIS?

On Jun 3, 8:13 pm, "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number
wrote:
To answer the subject line... Yes.

I hate shooting for tests...but I'll try to get on it.


Look, it is obvious that the only way we are gonna settle this is for
me to do some serious one-on-one comparsions. So please FEDEX me your
1D3 so I can begin proper testing immediately.


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Old June 4th 07, 01:20 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
MarkČ
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Default BETTER THAN THIS?

Annika1980 wrote:
On Jun 3, 8:13 pm, "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number
wrote:
To answer the subject line... Yes.

I hate shooting for tests...but I'll try to get on it.


Look, it is obvious that the only way we are gonna settle this is for
me to do some serious one-on-one comparsions. So please FEDEX me your
1D3 so I can begin proper testing immediately.


Hey, you already blew your chance to divert delivery... Your bad...

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Old June 4th 07, 06:40 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
MarkČ
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Default BETTER THAN THIS? *Some 100% crops*

Annika1980 wrote:
Here's an actual sized crop from a photo I took today:
http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/79898815/original

This was shot with my 20D at ISO 800.
This is a straight conversion from the RAW file with no other post-
processing done in Photoshop. To me, that looks like outstanding low-
noise performance from an ISO 800 shot. I want to see some samples
from the 1DMKIII at high ISO settings.
Preferably, something similar with a smooth OOF background where noise
would be obvious.

Get to it, PW!

BTW, I'd hate you less if you e-mailed me some RAW files shot with
your new cammy.


I just posted four 100% crops...800...1600...3200...6400.

There are jpegs, straight from the camera. I didn't use RAW conversion,
simply because that can introduce variables. Personally, I am very pleased
with the high ISO performance. -See what you think...

**There is a bit of texture to the felt...so I'll probably have to post
another set with a better subject.

Noise becomes obvious at 6400, but is amazingly restrained at all levels
(basically non-existent at 800).
See below:

**NOTE: Each "original" size file is about 0.8MB...
800:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79933906/original
1600:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79933903/original
3200:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79933904/original
6400:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79933905/original

MarkČ

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Old June 4th 07, 06:59 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
John McWilliams
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Default BETTER THAN THIS? *Some 100% crops*

MarkČ wrote:
Annika1980 wrote:
Here's an actual sized crop from a photo I took today:
http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/79898815/original

This was shot with my 20D at ISO 800.
This is a straight conversion from the RAW file with no other post-
processing done in Photoshop. To me, that looks like outstanding low-
noise performance from an ISO 800 shot. I want to see some samples
from the 1DMKIII at high ISO settings.
Preferably, something similar with a smooth OOF background where noise
would be obvious.

Get to it, PW!

BTW, I'd hate you less if you e-mailed me some RAW files shot with
your new cammy.


I just posted four 100% crops...800...1600...3200...6400.

There are jpegs, straight from the camera. I didn't use RAW conversion,
simply because that can introduce variables. Personally, I am very pleased
with the high ISO performance. -See what you think...

**There is a bit of texture to the felt...so I'll probably have to post
another set with a better subject.

Noise becomes obvious at 6400, but is amazingly restrained at all levels
(basically non-existent at 800).
See below:

**NOTE: Each "original" size file is about 0.8MB...
800:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79933906/original
1600:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79933903/original
3200:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79933904/original
6400:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79933905/original

That's impressive. Your really slow ISO- 800, heh! shows just the felt.
The 6400 one, though, the speckles aren't just the felt. It's noise, and
maybe in five years we'll get noise free 6400, but what you've got there
now is fantastic.
==
John McWilliams

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Old June 4th 07, 07:05 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
MarkČ
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Default BETTER THAN THIS? *Some 100% crops*

John McWilliams wrote:
MarkČ wrote:
Annika1980 wrote:
Here's an actual sized crop from a photo I took today:
http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/79898815/original

This was shot with my 20D at ISO 800.
This is a straight conversion from the RAW file with no other post-
processing done in Photoshop. To me, that looks like outstanding
low- noise performance from an ISO 800 shot. I want to see some
samples from the 1DMKIII at high ISO settings.
Preferably, something similar with a smooth OOF background where
noise would be obvious.

Get to it, PW!

BTW, I'd hate you less if you e-mailed me some RAW files shot with
your new cammy.


I just posted four 100% crops...800...1600...3200...6400.

There are jpegs, straight from the camera. I didn't use RAW
conversion, simply because that can introduce variables. Personally, I am
very pleased with the high ISO performance. -See
what you think... **There is a bit of texture to the felt...so I'll
probably have to
post another set with a better subject.

Noise becomes obvious at 6400, but is amazingly restrained at all
levels (basically non-existent at 800).
See below:

**NOTE: Each "original" size file is about 0.8MB...
800:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79933906/original
1600:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79933903/original
3200:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79933904/original
6400:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79933905/original

That's impressive. Your really slow ISO- 800, heh! shows just the
felt. The 6400 one, though, the speckles aren't just the felt. It's
noise,


Of course it's noise.
I didn't mean to imply otherwise. The felt shows speckles in all shots, but
the noise is certainly present. Amazingly little... Obvious at 6400, but
amazingly good at 3200.

and maybe in five years we'll get noise free 6400, but what
you've got there now is fantastic.
==
John McWilliams


I agree.


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Old June 4th 07, 07:11 AM posted to rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.equipment.35mm
frederick
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Default BETTER THAN THIS? *Some 100% crops*

John McWilliams wrote:
MarkČ wrote:
Annika1980 wrote:
Here's an actual sized crop from a photo I took today:
http://www.pbase.com/bret/image/79898815/original

This was shot with my 20D at ISO 800.
This is a straight conversion from the RAW file with no other post-
processing done in Photoshop. To me, that looks like outstanding low-
noise performance from an ISO 800 shot. I want to see some samples
from the 1DMKIII at high ISO settings.
Preferably, something similar with a smooth OOF background where noise
would be obvious.

Get to it, PW!

BTW, I'd hate you less if you e-mailed me some RAW files shot with
your new cammy.


I just posted four 100% crops...800...1600...3200...6400.

There are jpegs, straight from the camera. I didn't use RAW
conversion, simply because that can introduce variables. Personally,
I am very pleased with the high ISO performance. -See what you think...

**There is a bit of texture to the felt...so I'll probably have to
post another set with a better subject.

Noise becomes obvious at 6400, but is amazingly restrained at all
levels (basically non-existent at 800).
See below:

**NOTE: Each "original" size file is about 0.8MB...
800:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79933906/original
1600:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79933903/original
3200:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79933904/original
6400:
http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/79933905/original

That's impressive. Your really slow ISO- 800, heh! shows just the felt.
The 6400 one, though, the speckles aren't just the felt. It's noise, and
maybe in five years we'll get noise free 6400, but what you've got there
now is fantastic.
==


It is impressive. But you can see from the loss of texture on the
surface of the ball and the threads, that some heavy NR is applied
in-camera to the jpgs.

 




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