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We need to ban all handguns in America NOW
wrote in message oups.com... It's OK. The UK has their own gun bans and yet still has gun rampages. When? What gun rampage has their been since handguns were banned? |
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We need to ban all handguns in America NOW
wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 19, 5:01 am, "Stuart" wrote: "James Jones" wrote in message ... "G.I. Cho" wrote in message roups.com... How many more tragedies is it going to take before we wake up? We have a serious gun problem in this country and it's time to take a stand. Let the farmers and hunters keep the rifles and shotguns. Get rid of the pistols and the assault rifles unless you want to go over and fight in Iraq. You're going to let us keep our rifles and shotguns? Gee, that's awfully generous of you. I can just see it ,arm everyone including the immature students at University and schools - some idiot comes in and tries to recreate a massacre and it's guns ablazing to the left centre and right!!! an orgy of killing. If the USA had a population problem it would be one way to solve it quick smart. The gun lobby are life haters.... Life savers... If your theory were true, police wouldn't carry firearms. No the police and militia are trained and have legislative authority. Ordinary citizens can range from highly self disciplined and possessed of logical thought processes to the idiots who performed this outrage. You can never assume or transpose your own moral and ethical values on the entire population - it's also a pointless exercise to use words like "they should do this or that" people are not that predictable... it is now known the adult male brain is not fully developed till around 24 to 25. How many 18 year olds have a cool head? How many young men settle problems with a debate rather than primitive fists or weapons at hand? nah! the population at large needs to be de-armed and rely on a respect the police and authority. It will take time but it will happed after to many more deaths force reality on the USA - just compare the violence to nearly any other 1st world country. |
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We need to ban all handguns in America NOW
Notan wrote:
G.I. Cho wrote: How many more tragedies is it going to take before we wake up? We have a serious gun problem in this country and it's time to take a stand. Let the farmers and hunters keep the rifles and shotguns. Get rid of the pistols and the assault rifles unless you want to go over and fight in Iraq. Please explain exactly how one bans unregistered handguns. And how this relates to digital photography... |
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We need to ban all handguns in America NOW
"dennis@home" wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... It's OK. The UK has their own gun bans and yet still has gun rampages. When? What gun rampage has their been since handguns were banned? since guns are outlawed there, you shouldn't have *any* gun killings, yet you do, and the number is increasing every year. care to explain how that w*rks? redc1c4, pointing out the obvious, to the oblivious. %-) -- "Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear considerable watching." Army Officer's Guide |
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We need to ban all handguns in America NOW
Stuart wrote:
wrote in message oups.com... On Apr 19, 5:01 am, "Stuart" wrote: "James Jones" wrote in message ... "G.I. Cho" wrote in message roups.com... How many more tragedies is it going to take before we wake up? We have a serious gun problem in this country and it's time to take a stand. Let the farmers and hunters keep the rifles and shotguns. Get rid of the pistols and the assault rifles unless you want to go over and fight in Iraq. You're going to let us keep our rifles and shotguns? Gee, that's awfully generous of you. I can just see it ,arm everyone including the immature students at University and schools - some idiot comes in and tries to recreate a massacre and it's guns ablazing to the left centre and right!!! an orgy of killing. If the USA had a population problem it would be one way to solve it quick smart. The gun lobby are life haters.... Life savers... If your theory were true, police wouldn't carry firearms. No the police and militia are trained and have legislative authority. Ordinary citizens can range from highly self disciplined and possessed of logical thought processes to the idiots who performed this outrage. You can never assume or transpose your own moral and ethical values on the entire population - it's also a pointless exercise to use words like "they should do this or that" people are not that predictable... it is now known the adult male brain is not fully developed till around 24 to 25. How many 18 year olds have a cool head? How many young men settle problems with a debate rather than primitive fists or weapons at hand? nah! the population at large needs to be de-armed and rely on a respect the police and authority. It will take time but it will happed after to many more deaths force reality on the USA - just compare the violence to nearly any other 1st world country. you can't disarm the general public. to do so is unconstitutional, not to mention both immoral and impractical. any attempt to do so wuld be as productive as banning alcohol or drugs, and we've seen how *that* turned out..... %-) redc1c4, pointing out the obvious, to the oblivious. -- "Enlisted men are stupid, but extremely cunning and sly, and bear considerable watching." Army Officer's Guide |
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We need to ban all handguns in America NOW
"Notan" notan@ddressthatcanbespammed wrote in message ... G.I. Cho wrote: How many more tragedies is it going to take before we wake up? We have a serious gun problem in this country and it's time to take a stand. Let the farmers and hunters keep the rifles and shotguns. Get rid of the pistols and the assault rifles unless you want to go over and fight in Iraq. Please explain exactly how one bans unregistered handguns. The same way Mao Tse Dung, Jos. Stalin and Hiler did it. The founding fathers knew that guns promote freedom and that Tyrants from Hitler to Mao to Stalin have sought to disarm their own citizens, for the simple reason that unarmed people are easier to control. |
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We need to ban all handguns in America NOW
On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 21:17:08 -0700, G.I. Cho wrote:
How many more tragedies is it going to take before we wake up? We have a serious gun problem in this country and it's time to take a stand. Let the farmers and hunters keep the rifles and shotguns. Get rid of the pistols and the assault rifles unless you want to go over and fight in Iraq. I would assume the motivation for your post would be the recent tragedy in Virginia. From what I gather thus far, he had been planning this for quite some time and had purchased guns a month or more ago. It would be nearly impossible to keep weapons out of the hands of someone planning a vicious attack in advance. Best thing it might do would be to reduce 'acts of passion' or opporunity - which this was not. Another argument could be made that if a firearm were required in every dorm room, that someone might have been able to stop him before the main mahem. Are you aware that one of the lowest violent crime rates in the world is in Switzerland (or is it Austria) where every male head of household is required by law to own a firearm? BTW - this is VERY off topic. |
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We need to ban all handguns in America NOW
On Apr 19, 12:17 am, "G.I. Cho" wrote:
How many more tragedies is it going to take before we wake up? We have a serious gun problem in this country and it's time to take a stand. Let the farmers and hunters keep the rifles and shotguns. Get rid of the pistols and the assault rifles unless you want to go over and fight in Iraq. 40 years ago, some idiot liberal psychiatrists decided the best way to expedite the treatment of loonies was to "intergrate" them into society. The loonies were turfed from the insane asylums (it used to be relatively easy to have someone confined) and crime SOARED. You now see the results of this, people who are CLEARLY out of their minds are allowed to live in society and the results are predictable. Time to stop blaming "objects" for crimes and START blaming people. To start with, all homeless people should be institutionalized. All those determined to be a danger to themselves or the public should be locked up. |
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We need to ban all handguns in America NOW
On 19 Apr 2007 09:25:56 -0700, Rich wrote:
On Apr 19, 12:17 am, "G.I. Cho" wrote: How many more tragedies is it going to take before we wake up? We have a serious gun problem in this country and it's time to take a stand. Let the farmers and hunters keep the rifles and shotguns. Get rid of the pistols and the assault rifles unless you want to go over and fight in Iraq. 40 years ago, some idiot liberal psychiatrists decided the best way to expedite the treatment of loonies was to "intergrate" them into society. The loonies were turfed from the insane asylums (it used to be relatively easy to have someone confined) and crime SOARED. You now see the results of this, people who are CLEARLY out of their minds are allowed to live in society and the results are predictable. Time to stop blaming "objects" for crimes and START blaming people. To start with, all homeless people should be institutionalized. All those determined to be a danger to themselves or the public should be locked up. Rich: Some of what you have to say is accurate and clearly supported by Psychological Studies and information currently in the databases of the Criminal Justice System and Criminology. In so far as it being "Time to stop blaming "objects" and START blaming People" is concerned - that too appear to be an accurate outflow of logic and reason. However, in "most people's minds" - they DON'T WANT TO BLAME the person - they want to blame the object - because they feel - if the object wasn't there - the criminal act would not have occurred [a classic example of faulty/circular logic]. What they don't realize is the fact that if the "object" hadn't been there - "some other object" - equally or more devastating - probably would have been used - and quite possibly have resulted in greater or more devastating losses of life and property. The one part of your posting I tend to take exception to is the "...all homeless people should be institutionalized." inference. I suggest that you may wish to amend your "blanket reference" to the homeless. Granted, there are a NUMBER of the homeless who should be institutionalized - because of Mental Disease/Disorders, Drugs and/or Alcohol ingestion, and other equally devastating problems. However, NOW DAYS - there are numerous people who are "homeless" and living on the streets due to Circumstances beyond their control and the GREED of others. Not just men, but women, children, and infants - forced out onto the streets because of the way the economy is, because of BACK STABBING Co-workers, because of SUPERVISORS who take umbrage at someone who is more intelligent, experienced, or trained than they are and end up forcing a situation on the employee - because of jealousy. There are any number of reasons for a person/family to be unemployed and "homeless." Not just because of a Mental, Drug, or Alcohol problem. So, you may wish to qualify/quantify your suggestion regarding the "HOMELESS" and the fact that you think that they need to be "institutionalized." |
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