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Old August 8th 06, 10:21 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
William Graham
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"Deviens Comme Elle" means "become like her". I believe Daniel was
trying to show how young girls and women are trying to become like this
model. IMHO I thought it meant that young girls are literally making
themselves sick to become like her. Some have gone so far that they
even die from some eating disorder. We should be looking for beauty
from within a person instead of out---this my humble opinion. This is
what I get from Daniel's work.
Helen


Yes, but tens of thousands will file past her funeral bier and look at her
and say, "Wasn't she beautiful".......


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Old August 8th 06, 10:52 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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William Graham wrote:
wrote in message

"Deviens Comme Elle" means "become like her". I believe Daniel was
trying to show how young girls and women are trying to become like this
model. IMHO I thought it meant that young girls are literally making
themselves sick to become like her. Some have gone so far that they
even die from some eating disorder. We should be looking for beauty
from within a person instead of out---this my humble opinion. This is
what I get from Daniel's work.
Helen


Yes, but tens of thousands will file past her funeral bier and look at her
and say, "Wasn't she beautiful".......


I can see your point Bill, but this can also be said for a beautiful
soul.When I was a child, there was a man who lived alone on our
street.Ignorant people would stay clear of him and even make fun of
him.He had a skin disease where he had small tumors all over his body,
especially his face.Not sure what kind of disease it was, but it was
not contagious. Doctors told him he wouldn't live past 30 years old.It
didn't stop him for doing what he loved best, and that was helping
people.This man went above and beyond the call by helping his neighbor
and anyone who needed it.Taking in stray cats & dogs, helping the
homeless, etc.Getting to know him was a treat.He had such a beautiful
soul it brought tears to your eyes.He did die at the age of 32, and I
remember at his funeral (paid for by donations) everyone said he was a
beautiful person.Your comment brought this memory back. I thank God I
listened to my mother and gave the guy a chance, because I feel richer
just having to know him.
Helen

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Old August 9th 06, 02:46 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
William Graham
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William Graham wrote:
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"Deviens Comme Elle" means "become like her". I believe Daniel was
trying to show how young girls and women are trying to become like this
model. IMHO I thought it meant that young girls are literally making
themselves sick to become like her. Some have gone so far that they
even die from some eating disorder. We should be looking for beauty
from within a person instead of out---this my humble opinion. This is
what I get from Daniel's work.
Helen


Yes, but tens of thousands will file past her funeral bier and look at
her
and say, "Wasn't she beautiful".......


I can see your point Bill, but this can also be said for a beautiful
soul.When I was a child, there was a man who lived alone on our
street.Ignorant people would stay clear of him and even make fun of
him.He had a skin disease where he had small tumors all over his body,
especially his face.Not sure what kind of disease it was, but it was
not contagious. Doctors told him he wouldn't live past 30 years old.It
didn't stop him for doing what he loved best, and that was helping
people.This man went above and beyond the call by helping his neighbor
and anyone who needed it.Taking in stray cats & dogs, helping the
homeless, etc.Getting to know him was a treat.He had such a beautiful
soul it brought tears to your eyes.He did die at the age of 32, and I
remember at his funeral (paid for by donations) everyone said he was a
beautiful person.Your comment brought this memory back. I thank God I
listened to my mother and gave the guy a chance, because I feel richer
just having to know him.
Helen

Yes. My last post was tongue-in-cheek. But your answer reminded me of
Kafka's, "Metamorphosis" - It is a short story about a guy who turns into a
cockroach......A good read.....


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Old August 9th 06, 03:25 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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William Graham wrote:
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ups.com...

William Graham wrote:
wrote in message

"Deviens Comme Elle" means "become like her". I believe Daniel was
trying to show how young girls and women are trying to become like this
model. IMHO I thought it meant that young girls are literally making
themselves sick to become like her. Some have gone so far that they
even die from some eating disorder. We should be looking for beauty
from within a person instead of out---this my humble opinion. This is
what I get from Daniel's work.
Helen


Yes, but tens of thousands will file past her funeral bier and look at
her
and say, "Wasn't she beautiful".......


I can see your point Bill, but this can also be said for a beautiful
soul.When I was a child, there was a man who lived alone on our
street.Ignorant people would stay clear of him and even make fun of
him.He had a skin disease where he had small tumors all over his body,
especially his face.Not sure what kind of disease it was, but it was
not contagious. Doctors told him he wouldn't live past 30 years old.It
didn't stop him for doing what he loved best, and that was helping
people.This man went above and beyond the call by helping his neighbor
and anyone who needed it.Taking in stray cats & dogs, helping the
homeless, etc.Getting to know him was a treat.He had such a beautiful
soul it brought tears to your eyes.He did die at the age of 32, and I
remember at his funeral (paid for by donations) everyone said he was a
beautiful person.Your comment brought this memory back. I thank God I
listened to my mother and gave the guy a chance, because I feel richer
just having to know him.
Helen

Yes. My last post was tongue-in-cheek. But your answer reminded me of
Kafka's, "Metamorphosis" - It is a short story about a guy who turns into a
cockroach......A good read.....


Sounds like a good read----thanks Bill. I'm going to check that out!
:^)
Helen

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Old August 9th 06, 09:02 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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no_name wrote:
Looking at Daniel's image, it looks like it's a photograph of a poster
that's been defaced with a sticker of some kind. What does "DEVIENS
COMME ELLE" translate into English? In any case that makes a
photograph of the defaced poster a new work.


Deviens comme elle = Becomes like her.

Yes, it's a new picture because the original photoraph is to advertise
for a product, and the sticker transform the advert in the opposite.
In telling that if you buy this product such advertised you'll be like
her, and my comment it's that you'll be a fashion victim to put
all girls in the same road.

http://www.monochromatique.com/photosemaine/

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Old August 9th 06, 02:30 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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Daniel Rocha wrote:
no_name wrote:
Looking at Daniel's image, it looks like it's a photograph of a poster
that's been defaced with a sticker of some kind. What does "DEVIENS
COMME ELLE" translate into English? In any case that makes a
photograph of the defaced poster a new work.


Deviens comme elle = Becomes like her.

Yes, it's a new picture because the original photoraph is to advertise
for a product, and the sticker transform the advert in the opposite.
In telling that if you buy this product such advertised you'll be like
her, and my comment it's that you'll be a fashion victim to put
all girls in the same road.

Aaaahhh, I missed that completely. Not being able to
read and understand french caused confussion
on my part. Of course that's nothing new there. ;-)
Here in the USA we have parodies of posters
for adverts. Being more familiar with this advert
would bring the expression faster to the mind.

Good job Daniel. Just my lack of understanding
brought my previous response.

Keep at it.



Draco

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Old August 9th 06, 07:44 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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Daniel Rocha wrote:
no_name wrote:
Looking at Daniel's image, it looks like it's a photograph of a poster
that's been defaced with a sticker of some kind. What does "DEVIENS
COMME ELLE" translate into English? In any case that makes a
photograph of the defaced poster a new work.


Deviens comme elle = Becomes like her.

Yes, it's a new picture because the original photoraph is to advertise
for a product, and the sticker transform the advert in the opposite.
In telling that if you buy this product such advertised you'll be like
her, and my comment it's that you'll be a fashion victim to put
all girls in the same road.


But in this case the "artist" is the creator/applicator of the sticker.

You are just documenting or reproducing art. Is that also art?
;-)
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Old August 9th 06, 07:49 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
Chris Loffredo
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Chris Loffredo wrote:
Daniel Rocha wrote:
no_name wrote:
Looking at Daniel's image, it looks like it's a photograph of a poster
that's been defaced with a sticker of some kind. What does "DEVIENS
COMME ELLE" translate into English? In any case that makes a
photograph of the defaced poster a new work.


Deviens comme elle = Becomes like her.

Yes, it's a new picture because the original photoraph is to advertise
for a product, and the sticker transform the advert in the opposite.
In telling that if you buy this product such advertised you'll be like
her, and my comment it's that you'll be a fashion victim to put
all girls in the same road.


But in this case the "artist" is the creator/applicator of the sticker.

You are just documenting or reproducing art. Is that also art?
;-)


And food for thought, how is that different from good concert, theatre
or dance photography (also just documenting or reproducing art)?

O.k. I'll shut up now...
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Old August 9th 06, 08:59 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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"Chris Loffredo" wrote

But in this case the "artist" is the creator/applicator of the sticker.


Oh, how pre-post-modern

You are just documenting or reproducing art. Is that also art?



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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Appropriation_(art)

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