Commercial full frame sensor available.

http://www.electronics-eetimes.com/e...913064&vID=209

No pricing information yet, but this should allow third party full frame
cameras in popular formats (e.g.Minolta) at sensible prices as opposed to
the twice the area - ten times the price scheme operated by Sony and others.

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http://www.electronics-eetimes.com/e...-comes-in-a-35
mm-film-optical-format.html?cmp_id=7&news_id=222913064&vID=209

No pricing information yet, but this should allow third party full frame
cameras in popular formats (e.g.Minolta) at sensible prices as opposed to
the twice the area - ten times the price scheme operated by Sony and others.

minolta doesn't exist anymore.

minolta merged with konica to form konica-minolta, who then got bought
by sony, so if anyone, they don't need this sensor at all.

On 2012-06-28 09:21 , R. Mark Clayton wrote:
http://www.electronics-eetimes.com/e...913064&vID=209

No pricing information yet, but this should allow third party full frame
cameras in popular formats (e.g.Minolta) at sensible prices as opposed to
the twice the area - ten times the price scheme operated by Sony and others.

1. Minolta's SLR/DSLR business merged with Konica - then was absorbed by
Sony.

2. Cost of sensors goes up more than as a geometric relationship to size.

3. This sensor is not quite "35mm" full frame. That would 36x24mm. This
one is 32.8 x 24.6 mm giving it a 4:3 ratio rather than a 3:2 ratio of
"full frame". (No issue really, just not what "full frame" is usually
meant to be).

4. This sensor seems to be specifically aimed at video, not stills - and
more specifically to industrial use.

5. This sensor is currently offered as monochrome. CFA version to
follow later this year.

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In article , R. Mark Clayton
wrote:

http://www.electronics-eetimes.com/e...-comes-in-a-35
mm-film-optical-format.html?cmp_id=7&news_id=222913064&vID=209

No pricing information yet, but this should allow third party full frame
cameras in popular formats (e.g.Minolta) at sensible prices as opposed to
the twice the area - ten times the price scheme operated by Sony and
others.

minolta doesn't exist anymore.

No, BUT their AF format does!


minolta merged with konica to form konica-minolta, who then got bought
by sony, so if anyone, they don't need this sensor at all.

Sony already have one, but the differential between their APS and FF cameras
(with virtually the same mechanicals) is $$$$.

Time for a third party to make a full frame back to take Minolta glass.

In article , R. Mark Clayton
wrote:

No pricing information yet, but this should allow third party full frame
cameras in popular formats (e.g.Minolta) at sensible prices as opposed to
the twice the area - ten times the price scheme operated by Sony and
others.

minolta doesn't exist anymore.

No, BUT their AF format does!

minolta is *gone*. sony owns all of the assets.

minolta merged with konica to form konica-minolta, who then got bought
by sony, so if anyone, they don't need this sensor at all.

Sony already have one, but the differential between their APS and FF cameras
(with virtually the same mechanicals) is $$$$.

a full frame camera *will* cost more than a crop sensor camera and the
difference isn't as much as you suggest.

Time for a third party to make a full frame back to take Minolta glass.

why? sony cameras already do.

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In article , R. Mark Clayton
wrote:

No pricing information yet, but this should allow third party full
frame
cameras in popular formats (e.g.Minolta) at sensible prices as opposed
to
the twice the area - ten times the price scheme operated by Sony and
others.

minolta doesn't exist anymore.

No, BUT their AF format does!

minolta is *gone*. sony owns all of the assets.

Yes Minolta was taken over by Sony. The interface is a de facto standard
(referred to as Minolta AF).

There is still a 1/4 Whithworth screw in the bottom of most cameras. This
matches all existing tripods. This thread has not been used for just about
anything else for half a century.


minolta merged with konica to form konica-minolta, who then got bought
by sony, so if anyone, they don't need this sensor at all.

Sony already have one, but the differential between their APS and FF
cameras
(with virtually the same mechanicals) is $$$$.

a full frame camera *will* cost more than a crop sensor camera and the
difference isn't as much as you suggest.

A900 ~£2k; A850 ~£1,800

A580 ~£300

A difference of well over £1,000 or nearly $2,000, so the difference is $$$$
as I suggest.


Time for a third party to make a full frame back to take Minolta glass.

why? sony cameras already do.

So I only have to pay $$$ for the camera instead of $$$$.

It is a bit like the lenses - Tamron, Sigma, Vivtivar etc. are about half
the price of the original makers for an equivalent lens.

In article , R. Mark Clayton
wrote:

minolta doesn't exist anymore.

No, BUT their AF format does!

minolta is *gone*. sony owns all of the assets.

Yes Minolta was taken over by Sony. The interface is a de facto standard
(referred to as Minolta AF).

it's now called the sony alpha mount, or a-mount.

There is still a 1/4 Whithworth screw in the bottom of most cameras. This
matches all existing tripods. This thread has not been used for just about
anything else for half a century.

the tripod socket was never proprietary.

minolta merged with konica to form konica-minolta, who then got bought
by sony, so if anyone, they don't need this sensor at all.

Sony already have one, but the differential between their APS and FF
cameras (with virtually the same mechanicals) is $$$$.

a full frame camera *will* cost more than a crop sensor camera and the
difference isn't as much as you suggest.

A900 ~£2k; A850 ~£1,800

A580 ~£300

A difference of well over £1,000 or nearly $2,000, so the difference is $$$$
as I suggest.

there's more than just the sensor that is different.

On 2012-06-28 21:27 , RichA wrote:

I remember at one time when electronic component companies gave away
development kits. Though likely not one that would support something
like that. You could often get free kits for things like temp sensors,
electric "eyes," things like that.

Most dev kits cost something. They may be sold for no profit or very
little, but costs are covered.



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"Civilization is the limitless multiplication of unnecessary necessities."
-Samuel Clemens.

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In article , R. Mark Clayton
wrote:

minolta doesn't exist anymore.

No, BUT their AF format does!

minolta is *gone*. sony owns all of the assets.

Yes Minolta was taken over by Sony. The interface is a de facto standard
(referred to as Minolta AF).

it's now called the sony alpha mount, or a-mount.

Indeed - that's what you see in camera shops Sony Alpha Mount or more usualy
"Minolta AF".


There is still a 1/4 Whithworth screw in the bottom of most cameras.
This
matches all existing tripods. This thread has not been used for just
about
anything else for half a century.

the tripod socket was never proprietary.

The "Whitworth" thread was indeed proprietary and created by [later Sir]
Joseph Whitworth in 1841, however it was later adopted as a British
Standard.


minolta merged with konica to form konica-minolta, who then got
bought
by sony, so if anyone, they don't need this sensor at all.

Sony already have one, but the differential between their APS and FF
cameras (with virtually the same mechanicals) is $$$$.

a full frame camera *will* cost more than a crop sensor camera and the
difference isn't as much as you suggest.

A900 ~£2k; A850 ~£1,800

A580 ~£300

A difference of well over £1,000 or nearly $2,000, so the difference is
$$$$
as I suggest.

there's more than just the sensor that is different.

Yes the FF version has a polished bezel and the badge is gold plated - get
real it a straight rip off!

On 30/06/2012 10:34 AM, R. Mark Clayton wrote:

There is still a 1/4 Whithworth screw in the bottom of most cameras. This
matches all existing tripods. This thread has not been used for just about
anything else for half a century.


I was under the impression that cameras used the 1/4"-20 (threads per
inch) UNC thread, not a Whithworth thread. Besides there are lots of
1/4-20's used. I think the lamp shade on most household lights is 1/4-20


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Mike