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Old August 1st 04, 11:02 PM
Michael Scarpitti
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Frank Pittel wrote in message ...
Interestingly enough I can't seem to find this book for sale. The only refernece
I can find is to a long out of print book from 1952. It's clear from reading new
publications from Kodak that they have come to see the light.


No, perhaps those who knew what the hell they were talking about
retired or died, dumbass....
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Old August 1st 04, 11:02 PM
Michael Scarpitti
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Default Kodak on Variable Film Development: NO!

Frank Pittel wrote in message ...
Interestingly enough I can't seem to find this book for sale. The only refernece
I can find is to a long out of print book from 1952. It's clear from reading new
publications from Kodak that they have come to see the light.


No, perhaps those who knew what the hell they were talking about
retired or died, dumbass....
  #13  
Old August 1st 04, 11:13 PM
jjs
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"Michael Scarpitti" wrote in message
om...
Frank Pittel wrote in message

...
Interestingly enough I can't seem to find this book for sale. The only

refernece
I can find is to a long out of print book from 1952. It's clear from

reading new
publications from Kodak that they have come to see the light.


No, perhaps those who knew what the hell they were talking about
retired or died, dumbass....


Look - Both of You! Veracity in the commercial domain is not the
peer-reviewed constant it is (when at its best) in the scientific domain.
Kodak is certainly not excempt from suspicion in their current technical
proclaims. Get over it. A generation or two has passed through the veil we
knew as their true nature. Kodak can be as full of **** as anyone. They have
adopted a marketing agenda in place of their once default-superior place in
the field.

BE SKEPTICAL OF EVERYTHING!


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Old August 1st 04, 11:13 PM
jjs
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Default Kodak on Variable Film Development: NO!

"Michael Scarpitti" wrote in message
om...
Frank Pittel wrote in message

...
Interestingly enough I can't seem to find this book for sale. The only

refernece
I can find is to a long out of print book from 1952. It's clear from

reading new
publications from Kodak that they have come to see the light.


No, perhaps those who knew what the hell they were talking about
retired or died, dumbass....


Look - Both of You! Veracity in the commercial domain is not the
peer-reviewed constant it is (when at its best) in the scientific domain.
Kodak is certainly not excempt from suspicion in their current technical
proclaims. Get over it. A generation or two has passed through the veil we
knew as their true nature. Kodak can be as full of **** as anyone. They have
adopted a marketing agenda in place of their once default-superior place in
the field.

BE SKEPTICAL OF EVERYTHING!


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Old August 1st 04, 11:23 PM
Michael Scarpitti
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Default Kodak on Variable Film Development: NO!

"Jim Phelps" wrote in message ...
Frank,

Beating a dead horse is more rewarding than a discussion on the Zone
System with this individual. So is pounding sand, ****ing up a rope, etc.
etc. etc...

I need to update my filters. I thought I ignored everything MS wrote...

Ignorance is bliss, and ignore MS is sooooo blissful...

Jim


Address the goddamn post, asshole!
  #16  
Old August 1st 04, 11:23 PM
Michael Scarpitti
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Default Kodak on Variable Film Development: NO!

"Jim Phelps" wrote in message ...
Frank,

Beating a dead horse is more rewarding than a discussion on the Zone
System with this individual. So is pounding sand, ****ing up a rope, etc.
etc. etc...

I need to update my filters. I thought I ignored everything MS wrote...

Ignorance is bliss, and ignore MS is sooooo blissful...

Jim


Address the goddamn post, asshole!
  #17  
Old August 1st 04, 11:23 PM
Michael Scarpitti
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Default Kodak on Variable Film Development: NO!

"Jim Phelps" wrote in message ...
Frank,

Beating a dead horse is more rewarding than a discussion on the Zone
System with this individual. So is pounding sand, ****ing up a rope, etc.
etc. etc...

I need to update my filters. I thought I ignored everything MS wrote...

Ignorance is bliss, and ignore MS is sooooo blissful...

Jim


Address the goddamn post, asshole!
  #18  
Old August 2nd 04, 12:17 AM
Frank Pittel
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Default Kodak on Variable Film Development: NO!

Michael Scarpitti wrote:
: Frank Pittel wrote in message ...
: Interestingly enough I can't seem to find this book for sale. The only refernece
: I can find is to a long out of print book from 1952. It's clear from reading new
: publications from Kodak that they have come to see the light.

: No, perhaps those who knew what the hell they were talking about
: retired or died, dumbass....

It's more likely that while the engineers were working with Ansel Adams during the '50s
on the Zone system they came to realize the value of using development time to control
the contrast of negatives. This would certainly be a more likely reason for Kodak
shifting it's position and advice on using development time to control negative
contrast.

In any case the improvements I got in both the print-ability of my negatives and the
improvement I got in my prints after starting to use the zone system is enough of a
reason for me to continue using the zone system. The reversal of Kodak's position on
the matter simply reinforces my position.


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Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
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  #19  
Old August 2nd 04, 12:17 AM
Frank Pittel
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Default Kodak on Variable Film Development: NO!

Michael Scarpitti wrote:
: Frank Pittel wrote in message ...
: Interestingly enough I can't seem to find this book for sale. The only refernece
: I can find is to a long out of print book from 1952. It's clear from reading new
: publications from Kodak that they have come to see the light.

: No, perhaps those who knew what the hell they were talking about
: retired or died, dumbass....

It's more likely that while the engineers were working with Ansel Adams during the '50s
on the Zone system they came to realize the value of using development time to control
the contrast of negatives. This would certainly be a more likely reason for Kodak
shifting it's position and advice on using development time to control negative
contrast.

In any case the improvements I got in both the print-ability of my negatives and the
improvement I got in my prints after starting to use the zone system is enough of a
reason for me to continue using the zone system. The reversal of Kodak's position on
the matter simply reinforces my position.


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Keep working millions on welfare depend on you
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