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In article , Bill W
wrote: On a related note, my broken PC stopped booting to the USB drives with the recovery tools. It would boot only if the recovery tools were on a DVD. I still need to look into that issue. It didn't really matter much at the time because I had already tried everything I needed the disk for, and those things didn't work. welcome to windows. It feels like welcome to Windows 3.1. Back then, you expected this nonsense. After all these years, digging around to find solutions has lost its allure. the types of problems i see with windows and their solutions boggle the mind. macos has its share of problems too (nothing is perfect), but they're generally a lot less severe and far easier to resolve. as i said before, a mac can boot from any bootable volume, no matter how it's connected, even if it's the same physical drive (i.e., remove internal drive and put it in a usb enclosure or vice versa). |
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On 5/15/2017 3:11 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Mon, 15 May 2017 14:08:20 -0400, nospam wrote: In article , Bill W wrote: On a related note, my broken PC stopped booting to the USB drives with the recovery tools. It would boot only if the recovery tools were on a DVD. I still need to look into that issue. It didn't really matter much at the time because I had already tried everything I needed the disk for, and those things didn't work. welcome to windows. It feels like welcome to Windows 3.1. Back then, you expected this nonsense. After all these years, digging around to find solutions has lost its allure. If you are still having that issue, it is fairly simple to fix. shut down your machine and turn it on again, push on the f8, that will take you right into a screen, where you can adjust the boot order. -- PeterN |
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In article , PeterN
wrote: On a related note, my broken PC stopped booting to the USB drives with the recovery tools. It would boot only if the recovery tools were on a DVD. I still need to look into that issue. It didn't really matter much at the time because I had already tried everything I needed the disk for, and those things didn't work. welcome to windows. It feels like welcome to Windows 3.1. Back then, you expected this nonsense. After all these years, digging around to find solutions has lost its allure. If you are still having that issue, it is fairly simple to fix. shut down your machine and turn it on again, push on the f8, that will take you right into a screen, where you can adjust the boot order. boot order isn't the problem he's describing and the mere fact of having to muck around with bios for any reason is not 'a simple fix'. |
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On 5/15/2017 8:20 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN wrote: On a related note, my broken PC stopped booting to the USB drives with the recovery tools. It would boot only if the recovery tools were on a DVD. I still need to look into that issue. It didn't really matter much at the time because I had already tried everything I needed the disk for, and those things didn't work. welcome to windows. It feels like welcome to Windows 3.1. Back then, you expected this nonsense. After all these years, digging around to find solutions has lost its allure. If you are still having that issue, it is fairly simple to fix. shut down your machine and turn it on again, push on the f8, that will take you right into a screen, where you can adjust the boot order. boot order isn't the problem he's describing and the mere fact of having to muck around with bios for any reason is not 'a simple fix'. In that case Einstein, you provide the fix. It would be so much more helpful than your sarcastic bashing. -- PeterN |
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In article , PeterN
wrote: On a related note, my broken PC stopped booting to the USB drives with the recovery tools. It would boot only if the recovery tools were on a DVD. I still need to look into that issue. It didn't really matter much at the time because I had already tried everything I needed the disk for, and those things didn't work. welcome to windows. It feels like welcome to Windows 3.1. Back then, you expected this nonsense. After all these years, digging around to find solutions has lost its allure. If you are still having that issue, it is fairly simple to fix. shut down your machine and turn it on again, push on the f8, that will take you right into a screen, where you can adjust the boot order. boot order isn't the problem he's describing and the mere fact of having to muck around with bios for any reason is not 'a simple fix'. In that case Einstein, you provide the fix. It would be so much more helpful than your sarcastic bashing. the fix must come from redmond, where boot devices don't need specific drivers per device. it's a defective design. |
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On Mon, 15 May 2017 19:46:42 -0400, PeterN
wrote: On 5/15/2017 3:11 PM, Bill W wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2017 14:08:20 -0400, nospam wrote: In article , Bill W wrote: On a related note, my broken PC stopped booting to the USB drives with the recovery tools. It would boot only if the recovery tools were on a DVD. I still need to look into that issue. It didn't really matter much at the time because I had already tried everything I needed the disk for, and those things didn't work. welcome to windows. It feels like welcome to Windows 3.1. Back then, you expected this nonsense. After all these years, digging around to find solutions has lost its allure. If you are still having that issue, it is fairly simple to fix. shut down your machine and turn it on again, push on the f8, that will take you right into a screen, where you can adjust the boot order. It's not the boot order. It booted to the downloaded media creation files a few times, and then wouldn't - it just skipped the USB drive, and tried to boot normally. When I switched the USB drive to the USB recovery disk, it would boot every time, but there were too many missing tools on the recovery disk. I am now assuming that Windows made some changes to the other disk during those times I could boot to it - probably changing the boot files on the USB drive when I was trying to fix the SSD. It's just absolutely ****ing ridiculous. If you Google the problems I had, there's about a zillion hits, all with different fixes, but nearly all with a couple of key steps missing. And none of them mention the issue with seemingly different files depending on whether you copied to a USB drive, or to a DVD. There is some mention of problems when taking MS's advice that says a 4 GB drive is adequate. It apparently isn't, and you won't necessarily get a warning. But even that made no difference because they still wouldn't work with a 128 GB drive. |
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On 5/15/2017 8:46 PM, Bill W wrote:
On Mon, 15 May 2017 19:46:42 -0400, PeterN wrote: On 5/15/2017 3:11 PM, Bill W wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2017 14:08:20 -0400, nospam wrote: In article , Bill W wrote: On a related note, my broken PC stopped booting to the USB drives with the recovery tools. It would boot only if the recovery tools were on a DVD. I still need to look into that issue. It didn't really matter much at the time because I had already tried everything I needed the disk for, and those things didn't work. welcome to windows. It feels like welcome to Windows 3.1. Back then, you expected this nonsense. After all these years, digging around to find solutions has lost its allure. If you are still having that issue, it is fairly simple to fix. shut down your machine and turn it on again, push on the f8, that will take you right into a screen, where you can adjust the boot order. It's not the boot order. It booted to the downloaded media creation files a few times, and then wouldn't - it just skipped the USB drive, and tried to boot normally. When I switched the USB drive to the USB recovery disk, it would boot every time, but there were too many missing tools on the recovery disk. I am now assuming that Windows made some changes to the other disk during those times I could boot to it - probably changing the boot files on the USB drive when I was trying to fix the SSD. It's just absolutely ****ing ridiculous. If you Google the problems I had, there's about a zillion hits, all with different fixes, but nearly all with a couple of key steps missing. And none of them mention the issue with seemingly different files depending on whether you copied to a USB drive, or to a DVD. There is some mention of problems when taking MS's advice that says a 4 GB drive is adequate. It apparently isn't, and you won't necessarily get a warning. But even that made no difference because they still wouldn't work with a 128 GB drive. sorry. I thought it was simple. You have a decision to make. If your machine was meeting your needs, hold your nose and pay to et it fixed. I see there is a Microsoft kiosk in as Vegas. When I had some machine issues, I went to a local MS store and some some pretty good service, for no cost. Bring the Tech guy a Starbucks. That might be the reason I got good service, for free. -- PeterN |
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On Tue, 16 May 2017 19:36:49 -0400, PeterN
wrote: On 5/15/2017 8:46 PM, Bill W wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2017 19:46:42 -0400, PeterN wrote: On 5/15/2017 3:11 PM, Bill W wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2017 14:08:20 -0400, nospam wrote: In article , Bill W wrote: On a related note, my broken PC stopped booting to the USB drives with the recovery tools. It would boot only if the recovery tools were on a DVD. I still need to look into that issue. It didn't really matter much at the time because I had already tried everything I needed the disk for, and those things didn't work. welcome to windows. It feels like welcome to Windows 3.1. Back then, you expected this nonsense. After all these years, digging around to find solutions has lost its allure. If you are still having that issue, it is fairly simple to fix. shut down your machine and turn it on again, push on the f8, that will take you right into a screen, where you can adjust the boot order. It's not the boot order. It booted to the downloaded media creation files a few times, and then wouldn't - it just skipped the USB drive, and tried to boot normally. When I switched the USB drive to the USB recovery disk, it would boot every time, but there were too many missing tools on the recovery disk. I am now assuming that Windows made some changes to the other disk during those times I could boot to it - probably changing the boot files on the USB drive when I was trying to fix the SSD. It's just absolutely ****ing ridiculous. If you Google the problems I had, there's about a zillion hits, all with different fixes, but nearly all with a couple of key steps missing. And none of them mention the issue with seemingly different files depending on whether you copied to a USB drive, or to a DVD. There is some mention of problems when taking MS's advice that says a 4 GB drive is adequate. It apparently isn't, and you won't necessarily get a warning. But even that made no difference because they still wouldn't work with a 128 GB drive. sorry. I thought it was simple. You have a decision to make. If your machine was meeting your needs, hold your nose and pay to et it fixed. I see there is a Microsoft kiosk in as Vegas. When I had some machine issues, I went to a local MS store and some some pretty good service, for no cost. Bring the Tech guy a Starbucks. That might be the reason I got good service, for free. No, it's already fixed. Google is smarter than MS support. |
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On 5/17/2017 12:47 AM, Bill W wrote:
On Tue, 16 May 2017 19:36:49 -0400, PeterN wrote: On 5/15/2017 8:46 PM, Bill W wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2017 19:46:42 -0400, PeterN wrote: On 5/15/2017 3:11 PM, Bill W wrote: On Mon, 15 May 2017 14:08:20 -0400, nospam wrote: In article , Bill W wrote: On a related note, my broken PC stopped booting to the USB drives with the recovery tools. It would boot only if the recovery tools were on a DVD. I still need to look into that issue. It didn't really matter much at the time because I had already tried everything I needed the disk for, and those things didn't work. welcome to windows. It feels like welcome to Windows 3.1. Back then, you expected this nonsense. After all these years, digging around to find solutions has lost its allure. If you are still having that issue, it is fairly simple to fix. shut down your machine and turn it on again, push on the f8, that will take you right into a screen, where you can adjust the boot order. It's not the boot order. It booted to the downloaded media creation files a few times, and then wouldn't - it just skipped the USB drive, and tried to boot normally. When I switched the USB drive to the USB recovery disk, it would boot every time, but there were too many missing tools on the recovery disk. I am now assuming that Windows made some changes to the other disk during those times I could boot to it - probably changing the boot files on the USB drive when I was trying to fix the SSD. It's just absolutely ****ing ridiculous. If you Google the problems I had, there's about a zillion hits, all with different fixes, but nearly all with a couple of key steps missing. And none of them mention the issue with seemingly different files depending on whether you copied to a USB drive, or to a DVD. There is some mention of problems when taking MS's advice that says a 4 GB drive is adequate. It apparently isn't, and you won't necessarily get a warning. But even that made no difference because they still wouldn't work with a 128 GB drive. sorry. I thought it was simple. You have a decision to make. If your machine was meeting your needs, hold your nose and pay to et it fixed. I see there is a Microsoft kiosk in as Vegas. When I had some machine issues, I went to a local MS store and some some pretty good service, for no cost. Bring the Tech guy a Starbucks. That might be the reason I got good service, for free. No, it's already fixed. Google is smarter than MS support. Good. -- PeterN |
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