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On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:58:31 +0200, Sandman wrote:
In article , PeterN wrote: But if you're going to write, perhaps you would do it some other way, yes. Can't resist: "should" Thanks! I make lots of errors, and I have no problem with people pointing them out to me Haw! -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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On 8/20/2013 7:10 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Tue, 20 Aug 2013 14:58:31 +0200, Sandman wrote: In article , PeterN wrote: But if you're going to write, perhaps you would do it some other way, yes. Can't resist: "should" Thanks! I make lots of errors, and I have no problem with people pointing them out to me Haw! There is a subsequent post in which he tries to call me out for correcting him incorrectly, here. That being said, his photography shows a lot of promise. -- PeterN |
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sid wrote: See, you're doing it again. Preaching to the converted. I am, as is Dave, a native English speaker. So it should be clear to you.......... blah blah blah Seeing... Hardly, sid. Hardly. -- Sandman[.net] |
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Whisky-dave wrote: You could try Morecambe and Wise a comedy due in the UK in the 70s Was it due in the 70s, Dave? Or is still due in the 70s? Or did you mean "duo"? due Uh, seriously? see you're getting there you just have to use that stuff between your ears, and I mean on the inside of your head not the outside. Do you have stuff between your ears on the outside of your head, Drunk Dave? -- Sandman[.net] |
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Whisky-dave wrote: And when it comes to spelling and grammar, I need an asylum? I doubt such people that can't tell the differnce between a spelling error and a typo need to be put in an asylum but those that make such a song and dance about it should be sectioned for their own good. Those that make such a song and dance, huh? Remind me who posted the first grammar flame in this thread, Drunk Dave? Was it Savageduck? Hmmm, no... Was it Sid? Uh, no... Maybe it was Pensive Hamster? No wait, that would be YOU! Ironic. I rarely, if ever, make spelling or grammar flames. I don't care much about it. I make plenty of those errors myself, so there would be no point of me trying to sit on high horses pointing out errors of other out of the blue, like you do. And when you did, and while the same time failing simple grammar in your own grammar flame (now confirmed by you, but naturally snipped in this followup), then I call out the irony. What I didn't anticipate was the onslaught of people ready to make a song and dance about your grammar being intentionally incorrect and me "just not getting it". They have fallen strangely silent now that you have confirmed that the grammar in your initial grammar flame was incorrectly used, even for the reference you made. Yeah, that's some song and dance, Drunk Dave! All I did was post pictures of a train. -- Sandman[.net] |
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On Mon, 19 Aug 2013 22:53:36 +0200, Sandman wrote:
In article , sid wrote: Also note the punctuation and capitalisation: Drunk Dave: "Nice pics pity you don't speak proper english like what me and the queen do" Actual English: "Nice pics. Pity you don't speak proper English like me and the Queen" I'm not an expert, but I'm not stupid either. There is a middle road See, you're doing it again. Preaching to the converted. I am, as is Dave, a native English speaker. So it should be clear to you that even considering the *possibility* that Dave could actually conjure up an actual joke in his post, it is still incorrectly written and ironically ridden with grammatical and structural errors when writing it as a grammar flame. Please read the original post again. It was intentionally written in that way ( it is even quite a common joke in the UK). For the record, the supposed missed reference here (the "like what me and the X does" quote) is somehow completely lost to the internet. I have no problem having missed a cultural reference (not even sure if I could, Dave seems to be posting from the US, so any UK cultural references should be off the radar anyway), I'm beginning to get some doubts about the veracity of this as a cultural reference. You are listening to the other answers in this group, Dave is NOT posting from the US but from the UK. Your doubts are from your mind and not from facts. Not calling Pensive Hamster a liar, but it would be nice to get some form of context for the supposed reference, where this butchered English makes sense: "pity you don't speak proper english like what me and the queen do" And doesn't use "does" as Pensive Hamster had to do in his quote of the presumed reference. See - even when using cultural expressions, some basic rules often apply. It doesn't have to make grammatical sense as that is the main part of the joke. -- Neil Reverse ‘a’ and ‘r’ Remove ‘l’ to get address. |
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In article ,
Neil Ellwood wrote: So it should be clear to you that even considering the *possibility* that Dave could actually conjure up an actual joke in his post, it is still incorrectly written and ironically ridden with grammatical and structural errors when writing it as a grammar flame. Please read the original post again. It was intentionally written in that way ( it is even quite a common joke in the UK). Yeah, but as far as anyone ever have shown, it does not generally mix tense. I.e. the correct usage of the joke would have been: "pity you don't speak proper english like what me and the queen does" For the record, the supposed missed reference here (the "like what me and the X does" quote) is somehow completely lost to the internet. I have no problem having missed a cultural reference (not even sure if I could, Dave seems to be posting from the US, so any UK cultural references should be off the radar anyway), I'm beginning to get some doubts about the veracity of this as a cultural reference. You are listening to the other answers in this group, Dave is NOT posting from the US but from the UK. Yeah, that was my mistake. Your doubts are from your mind and not from facts. My doubts have shown to be true, verified by Drunk Dave himself, actually. And doesn't use "does" as Pensive Hamster had to do in his quote of the presumed reference. See - even when using cultural expressions, some basic rules often apply. It doesn't have to make grammatical sense as that is the main part of the joke. The "main part" of the joke is the reference to Morecambe and Wise's catchphrase "the play what I wrote", and several versions of it. I have yet to find any version of this catchphrase that also mixes tenses. You are free to help me out here, of course. I used another example in an earlier post, this is akin to writing this: "I've lose me marbles, said the leprechaun" Now, this catch-phrase already has whacky grammar given the "me" instead of "my", but that doesn't mean you can change the tense of any other words and pretend it's ok. The point is that even if the reference has intentionally faulty grammar, that doesn't justify you adding even more bad grammar. -- Sandman[.net] |
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Whisky-dave wrote: No wait, that would be YOU! Ironic. Why are you saying conversations personalities and characters can't be present across threads. I can't decode the above sentence to a coherent question. I rarely, if ever, make spelling or grammar flames. I don't care much about it. Niether do I, I only comment on others that comment on mine or decide that because I type teh rather than the, I'm drunk. Yeah, because "teh" is the only mistake you make, Dave So what is yuor excuse for gramma and spelling mistakes drunkeness or imcompedence. or are you not bright enough to tell. My spelling mistakes are obvious oversights, my grammar mistakes are lack of knowledge at points, or just brain farts in other cases. I make plenty of those errors myself, so there would be no point of me trying to sit on high horses pointing out errors of other out of the blue, like you do. you're the one calling me drunk Yeah? Better than stupid, is it not? I mean, being unable to write coherently due to something external must be better than due to something internal? Do you have some other explanation? I just attempt to show and correct your mistakes While making some new ones yourself in the process And when you did, and while the same time failing simple grammar in your own grammar flame (now confirmed by you, but naturally snipped in this followup), then I call out the irony. it wasn;t me that started the grammar flames., Of course it was. but it was you that doesn't seem to understand why things are sometimes written the way they are. Such as? What I didn't anticipate was the onslaught of people ready to make a song and dance about your grammar being intentionally incorrect and me "just not getting it". because it went straight over your head, that isn't our fault. Is that why you confirmed in your post that you had mistakenly mixed the tense, and I was correct from the beginning? Yeah, that must be it. They have fallen strangely silent now that you have confirmed that the grammar in your initial grammar flame was incorrectly used, even for the reference you made. I think you're starting to imagine things. That's the liquor talking You;'re ther one that got it wrong, you were teh one that posted a so called phrase that I used and I did not use it. Uh, I have been quoting you verbatim the whole time. This is your first post in this thread: Whisky-dave Nice pics pity you don't speak proper english like what me and the queen do And then you tried to explain the reference, and you wrote this: Whisky-dave And I think it was ericM that used a phrase such as I speak the queens english like wot she does. I wonder if you will be able to spot the difference. I mean, I've only pointed it out some thirty times now Yeah, that's some song and dance, Drunk Dave! All I did was post pictures of a train. Pictures of a train, sorry I don't remmeber those pictures. I know, you got busy quickly with grammar flames instead. I do remmebr a young blonde girl and somethinng about a smoke machine, is that what your referring to. My comment on those was stick a fag in her mounth or something similar. I assume you can work out what a fag is meant to mean in this case. Where's this train you're refering to and what did I say about it ? It's even quoted above, drunk Dave -- Sandman[.net] |
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Sandman wrote:
In article , Whisky-dave wrote: No wait, that would be YOU! Ironic. Why are you saying conversations personalities and characters can't be present across threads. I can't decode the above sentence to a coherent question. That's not really a surprise considering the current and previous threads involving you and the question of the English language. I rarely, if ever, make spelling or grammar flames. I don't care much about it. Neither do I, I only comment on others that comment on mine or decide that because I type teh rather than the, I'm drunk. Yeah, because "teh" is the only mistake you make, Dave So what is yuor excuse for gramma and spelling mistakes drunkeness or imcompedence. or are you not bright enough to tell. My spelling mistakes are obvious oversights, my grammar mistakes are lack of knowledge at points, or just brain farts in other cases. I make plenty of those errors myself, so there would be no point of me trying to sit on high horses pointing out errors The mind boggles! If you can't see that that is exactly what you're doing there is exactly no hope at all. of other out of the blue, like you do. you're the one calling me drunk Yeah? Better than stupid, is it not? I mean, being unable to write coherently due to something external must be better than due to something internal? Do you have some other explanation? I just attempt to show and correct your mistakes While making some new ones yourself in the process And when you did, and while the same time failing simple grammar in your own grammar flame (now confirmed by you, but naturally snipped in this followup), then I call out the irony. it wasn;t me that started the grammar flames., Of course it was. but it was you that doesn't seem to understand why things are sometimes written the way they are. Such as? What I didn't anticipate was the onslaught of people ready to make a song and dance about your grammar being intentionally incorrect and me "just not getting it". because it went straight over your head, that isn't our fault. Is that why you confirmed in your post that you had mistakenly mixed the tense, and I was correct from the beginning? Yeah, that must be it. You're off your ****ing rocker with the desire to prove yourself correct aren't you. Dave hasn't confirmed you were right he was trying to show the sort of thing he was doing in his original post was actually intentional and not some unintentional bad grammar as you are trying to imply. Morcame and Wise were just one example he was trying to help you understand with. They have fallen strangely silent now that you have confirmed that the grammar in your initial grammar flame was incorrectly used, even for the reference you made. The only reasons people may have fallen silent is 'cus you've killfiled 'em or they're so fed up with you being an obstinate prick that they just can't be bothered to reply any more I think you're starting to imagine things. That's the liquor talking You;'re ther one that got it wrong, you were teh one that posted a so called phrase that I used and I did not use it. Uh, I have been quoting you verbatim the whole time. This is your first post in this thread: Whisky-dave Nice pics pity you don't speak proper english like what me and the queen do And then you tried to explain the reference, and you wrote this: Whisky-dave And I think it was ericM that used a phrase such as I speak the queens english like wot she does. I wonder if you will be able to spot the difference. I mean, I've only pointed it out some thirty times now There is no difference, why won't you listen. Neither of the phrases used are set in stone things, they are a "turn of phrase" that carries an implied meaning, i.e. a joke. It would not matter, to an English speaker, what tense was used or who was referred to. The joke is using bad grammar to falsely imply one speaks correctly. Yeah, that's some song and dance, Drunk Dave! All I did was post pictures of a train. If you are persistently rude to people in public then the same thing is going to happen to you, a man of your intellect must surely realise this? Pictures of a train, sorry I don't remmeber those pictures. I know, you got busy quickly with grammar flames instead. You've set yourself up for that though haven't you. -- sid |
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In article ,
sid wrote: Why are you saying conversations personalities and characters can't be present across threads. I can't decode the above sentence to a coherent question. That's not really a surprise considering the current and previous threads involving you and the question of the English language. Nice comment there sid. So, can you decode it? Wouldn't your sarcastic comment been a bit more humiliating for me had you actually decoded it and explained it to me - clearly exposing how inept I am at English? Lots of hot air there, sid. I make plenty of those errors myself, so there would be no point of me trying to sit on high horses pointing out errors The mind boggles! If you can't see that that is exactly what you're doing there is exactly no hope at all. Huh? You have obviously not been following along, Sid. You are in a thread which I started. The very first post contained links to photos I've taken. It was quite on topic, but contained a spelling (or rather, a grammar) mistake. Drunk Dave joined the thread for one purpose only - to make a grammar flame. I didn't attack his grammar or spelling, he attacked mine. Now, I don't mind that at all. I *know* I make mistakes and I know I made a mistake in this very thread. But then Dave ironically enough also had a grammar mistake in his grammar flame, something too ironic to pass up on. I made fun of this just as he had made fun of me and all would have been well and nice if not the Illiterati had joined and claimed that no no no, they had read Dave's mind and Dave's sentence was *supposed* to be grammatically incorrect, mixing tenses, having incorrect punctuation and capitalisation - it's a *cultural reference*! So yes, I *did* miss the cultural reference. I admitted to that, and that did lessen the "fun" I had previously made of Dave, but not the point - because everyone citing the actual cultural reference curiously left out the grammatical mistakes that I had pointed to the entire time. Rinse and repeat over and over again, with me supporting, substantiating, making examples and you guys that just go "nuhnuhnuh you don't get it, end of story" without you know... doing anything of the above. The problem, as I'm sure you're aware of by now, was that Dave mistakenly wrote "like what me and the queen do" where he should have used "like what me and the queen DOES". And that's ignoring the other mistakes. Dave himself has even confirmed this in a followup where he even told me from where the reference came and wrote a quote of it. Where, ironically, the correct tense was used. I'll reiterate another example I've used. Daves use of the catchphrase is akin to me writing this: "I've lose me marbles" The original phrase has bad grammar, fine. The use of the phrase has even more bad grammar and mixing of tense. It's either "have lost" or "will lose" (or "can lose" or whatever), not "have lose". That's mixing tenses in the quote and that is ironic to do in a grammar flame. I know this is a lot of text and you'll probably just reply to it with a "nuhnuhnuh you don't get it, end of story" but that's kind of illustrating my entire point because it went straight over your head, that isn't our fault. Is that why you confirmed in your post that you had mistakenly mixed the tense, and I was correct from the beginning? Yeah, that must be it. You're off your ****ing rocker with the desire to prove yourself correct aren't you. No. They have fallen strangely silent now that you have confirmed that the grammar in your initial grammar flame was incorrectly used, even for the reference you made. The only reasons people may have fallen silent is 'cus you've killfiled 'em or they're so fed up with you being an obstinate prick that they just can't be bothered to reply any more I've only killfiled two trolls in this group. Either way, they all fell silent long before they ever found the strength to support their opinion on the subject with anything but hot air. If they want to blame me for supporting and arguing my case in light of *no* support for the opposing view, then I'm fine with that. It's better to be silent than continue to argue when you have no support. Yeah, that's some song and dance, Drunk Dave! All I did was post pictures of a train. If you are persistently rude to people in public then the same thing is going to happen to you, a man of your intellect must surely realise this? Huh? This is coming from the guy that just wrote "You're off your ****ing rocker", right? Tell me, Sid, when was I ever rude to you without you being rude to me first? I really like a Message ID here to verify that I was persistently rude to you that prompted your arrogance and sarcasm towards me. I'll obviously apologize since that rarely is my style. I can be pretty hostile towards people that are hostile towards me, but I try to not start the hostilities. Obviously, I may have done so at some point, so please point me in the right direction and a sincere apology will be forthcoming. Pictures of a train, sorry I don't remmeber those pictures. I know, you got busy quickly with grammar flames instead. You've set yourself up for that though haven't you. Where did i set myself up for that, Sid? In what way? You just made a claim and I bet you won't bother to support it. "set myself up" surely suggest that in the past, I make lots of grammar flames towards people (or just Dave). I know I have alerted him in the past when I have been unable to understand a given sentence, but please point me to where I have "set myself up" for this, Sid. Thank you in advance. -- Sandman[.net] |
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