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Old August 20th 04, 01:23 AM
Colin D
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nikonpro wrote:

CANON - The Great Pretender
snip biased bull****


Nikon is an excellent system.

Canon is an excellent system.

What's your problem?

There's room for both. Make your choice. But don't slag the other one.

That sort of 'digital' thinking only reveals a shallow mind.

Colin D.
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Old August 20th 04, 01:43 AM
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Steve Hix writes:

In article ,
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I can not document this information, but I remember that in
the 1970's, Canon and Minolta ran their own 'glass foundaries'
(i.e., they formulated their own lenses from optical glass
that they produced in their own foundaries). Other Japanese
camera manufacturers (including Nikon) manufactured their lenses
from optical glass blanks purchased from outside sources.
God is in the details.


Fuji also made their own glass, still do AFAIK.


We might be thinking of different time periods. In the early 1970's,
my memory is that Fuji was _not_ notable in the United States
photographic marketplace. (I have traveled in Western/Southern
Europe and in Morocco -- 1997. Fuji film is very prominent in
these marketplaces.)

My early 1970's United States memories:
Film: Kodak and Ilford.
Papers: Kodak and Cibachrome.
Inexpensive zoom lenses: Vivitar and Soligor. Ritz offered
some 'house brand' optics -- I have no knowledge of them.
Flash units: Vivitar.
The independents and hobbyists that I knew used
Minolta($$) and Canon ($$$) SLRs -- no Nikons ($$$$).
I never have seen (much less touched) a Leica rangefinder ($$$$$).
I have seen but not touched a Hasselblad SLR ($$$$$$).
IMO, both Honeywell Pentax and Asahi Pentax SLRs already
were out of favor in the early 1970's. Honeywell offered
Strobonar professional flash units powered with a
belt-mounted 510 volt battery -- no experience.
I do not remember any Kodak SLRs.

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Old August 20th 04, 04:55 AM
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Colin D wrote:
nikonpro wrote:

CANON - The Great Pretender
snip biased bull****



Nikon is an excellent system.

Canon is an excellent system.

What's your problem?

There's room for both. Make your choice. But don't slag the other one.


Come now, it's just a camera. Discussing the relative trade-offs is fair
game.

But as Robert M. Atkins once said:

"I suggest that all Nikon/Canon owners sign a truce and form an alliance
to trash Minolta and Pentax, who *really* deserve it!"

I should point out, so people don't think that I'm a Republican, that he
followed that statement with, "(THIS IS A JOKE, repeat, THIS IS A JOKE)."

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Old August 20th 04, 04:55 AM
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Colin D wrote:
nikonpro wrote:

CANON - The Great Pretender
snip biased bull****



Nikon is an excellent system.

Canon is an excellent system.

What's your problem?

There's room for both. Make your choice. But don't slag the other one.


Come now, it's just a camera. Discussing the relative trade-offs is fair
game.

But as Robert M. Atkins once said:

"I suggest that all Nikon/Canon owners sign a truce and form an alliance
to trash Minolta and Pentax, who *really* deserve it!"

I should point out, so people don't think that I'm a Republican, that he
followed that statement with, "(THIS IS A JOKE, repeat, THIS IS A JOKE)."

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Old August 20th 04, 07:41 AM
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To hell with trashing Pentax and Minolta. It's time to go after the great
grey totem. Let's trash Leica - after all, with the death of
Cartier-Bresson, there are now no Leicas being used for photography. All
ther remaining Leica owners won't put film through them as it lowers the
value of their investment, and they might bend the hang tag.

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Colin D wrote:
nikonpro wrote:

CANON - The Great Pretender
snip biased bull****



Nikon is an excellent system.

Canon is an excellent system.

What's your problem?

There's room for both. Make your choice. But don't slag the other one.


Come now, it's just a camera. Discussing the relative trade-offs is fair
game.

But as Robert M. Atkins once said:

"I suggest that all Nikon/Canon owners sign a truce and form an alliance
to trash Minolta and Pentax, who *really* deserve it!"

I should point out, so people don't think that I'm a Republican, that he
followed that statement with, "(THIS IS A JOKE, repeat, THIS IS A JOKE)."



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Old August 20th 04, 07:41 AM
Tony Spadaro
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To hell with trashing Pentax and Minolta. It's time to go after the great
grey totem. Let's trash Leica - after all, with the death of
Cartier-Bresson, there are now no Leicas being used for photography. All
ther remaining Leica owners won't put film through them as it lowers the
value of their investment, and they might bend the hang tag.

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The Improved Links Pages are at
http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/links/mlinks00.html
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http://www.chapelhillnoir.com/writ/hait/hatitl.html
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Colin D wrote:
nikonpro wrote:

CANON - The Great Pretender
snip biased bull****



Nikon is an excellent system.

Canon is an excellent system.

What's your problem?

There's room for both. Make your choice. But don't slag the other one.


Come now, it's just a camera. Discussing the relative trade-offs is fair
game.

But as Robert M. Atkins once said:

"I suggest that all Nikon/Canon owners sign a truce and form an alliance
to trash Minolta and Pentax, who *really* deserve it!"

I should point out, so people don't think that I'm a Republican, that he
followed that statement with, "(THIS IS A JOKE, repeat, THIS IS A JOKE)."



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Old August 20th 04, 08:32 AM
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"nikonpro" wrote in message
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CANON - The Great Pretender



One of Nikons finest moments in its history was the launch of the D1.
This without doubt made many jump (back) to Nikon - history has shown
- at least since 1999 - that Nikon rule Pro 35mm Digital.




Numbers from reality do not agree with you.

And...it gets tougher for Nikon--The 1D Mark II is the most sought-after pro
body by far.


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Old August 20th 04, 08:54 AM
Chris Loffredo
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Tony Spadaro wrote:
To hell with trashing Pentax and Minolta. It's time to go after the great
grey totem. Let's trash Leica - after all, with the death of
Cartier-Bresson, there are now no Leicas being used for photography. All
ther remaining Leica owners won't put film through them as it lowers the
value of their investment, and they might bend the hang tag.


If what you want out of life is a plastic auto-everything camera which
shoots dozens of frames-per-second, why don't you buy yourself a Super-8
movie camera?
 




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