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"Steve Cutchen" wrote in message ... In article , Gizmo wrote: "Barry Pearson" wrote in message ups.com... Is that similar to the 350D? Canon Rebel XT is the US name for the Canon 350D Canon Rebel = Canon 300D Gawd knows why they didnt use the same name Worldwide / The Nissan Maxima and Nissan Bluebird say "hi." G Ha, I drove a Bluebird in NZ. Greg |
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"Alan Browne" wrote in message ... G.T. wrote: Ok, I'm getting a headache trying to figure out the most streamlined workflow with the current Adobe products that I have. I much prefer using Adobe's Camera Raw Plug-in over Digital Photo Professional because of the integrated workflow and more user friendly interface. I've been using Elements 3.0 but a little while ago I received Photoshop CS as a birthday gift and have been using that as my primary editing app. From what I understand given my camera model and Photoshop versions this what I can do (with the first being my current workflow): 1. RAW - DPP - TIFF - Photoshop CS - PSD or JPG 2. RAW - Elements 3.0 with Camera Raw 3.1 - PSD or JPG 3. RAW - DNG converter - DNG - Elements 3.0 with Camera Raw 3.1 - PSD or JPG I can't do the following, right?: RAW - DNG converter - DNG - Photoshop CS - PSD or JPG Import from camera or card into PS from RAW. Optionally create a DNG version for archive. (though, for me, the camera RAW is a good archive format). As mentioned in other responses CS only supports ACR 2.4, ACR 2.4 doesn't support the Rebel XT. So it depends on which version of PS you're talking about. My currently available Photoshops are Elements 3.0 and CS. I would prefer to use CS and will not upgrade to CS 2 just to get better workflow. Greg |
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McLeod wrote: On Thu, 19 May 2005 18:13:31 -0700, "G.T." wrote: I can't do the following, right?: RAW - DNG converter - DNG - Photoshop CS - PSD or JPG Yes, you can do that. But as long as you have the right plug-in you should also be able to go: RAW-Photoshop CS-whatever you want to save it as. Except that there is no Adobe plugin for CS that can read XT Raw files, and there will not be one - for that, yo need to upgrade to CS2. |
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John Francis wrote:
Except that there is no Adobe plugin for CS that can read XT Raw files, and there will not be one - for that, yo need to upgrade to CS2. Indeed? Adobe support sucks. Glad I have Elements 3.0, cheaper and it does read all the current cameras. So the OP can do the same: CameraRAW -+- E3 - PSD - CS. | +- backup/archive (RAW). Sucks as a flow. Can also pass through DNG. But that just adds to the overall number of steps. Cheers, Alan. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. |
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In article ,
Alan Browne wrote: John Francis wrote: Except that there is no Adobe plugin for CS that can read XT Raw files, and there will not be one - for that, yo need to upgrade to CS2. Indeed? Adobe support sucks. Glad I have Elements 3.0, cheaper and it does read all the current cameras. So the OP can do the same: CameraRAW -+- E3 - PSD - CS. | +- backup/archive (RAW). Sucks as a flow. Can also pass through DNG. But that just adds to the overall number of steps. You can use DNG in the same number of steps: CameraRaw - DNG Converter 3.x - DNG - CS This is the workaround workflow that Adobe recommend for CS owners, which also lets you get at the full power of the Adobe Camera Raw software, rather than the limited functionality accessible in E3. (Mind you, I agree that it's a rather poor support decision not to upgrade the plugin for a product as recent as Photoshop CS) |
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John Francis wrote:
You can use DNG in the same number of steps: CameraRaw - DNG Converter 3.x - DNG - CS This is the workaround workflow that Adobe recommend for CS owners, which also lets you get at the full power of the Adobe Camera Raw software, rather than the limited functionality accessible in E3. (Mind you, I agree that it's a rather poor support decision not to upgrade the plugin for a product as recent as Photoshop CS) It's part of the evil plot to promote DNG. -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. |
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"Alan Browne" wrote in message ... John Francis wrote: You can use DNG in the same number of steps: CameraRaw - DNG Converter 3.x - DNG - CS This is the workaround workflow that Adobe recommend for CS owners, which also lets you get at the full power of the Adobe Camera Raw software, rather than the limited functionality accessible in E3. (Mind you, I agree that it's a rather poor support decision not to upgrade the plugin for a product as recent as Photoshop CS) It's part of the evil plot to promote DNG. And to force upgrades to CS 2. Greg |
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Alan Browne wrote:
(Mind you, I agree that it's a rather poor support decision not to upgrade the plugin for a product as recent as Photoshop CS) It's part of the evil plot to promote DNG. My God, you're right! Instead of forcing us to pay for the CS2 upgrade, they give us a free program we can use instead, thus furthering their evil corporate goal of ... um... oh. Actually, it does a good job of pointing out that if the camera makers would generate DNG in the first place, we wouldn't have to worry about software updates like this at all. -- Jeremy | |
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Jeremy Nixon wrote:
Alan Browne wrote: (Mind you, I agree that it's a rather poor support decision not to upgrade the plugin for a product as recent as Photoshop CS) It's part of the evil plot to promote DNG. My God, you're right! Instead of forcing us to pay for the CS2 upgrade, they give us a free program we can use instead, thus furthering their evil corporate goal of ... um... oh. Chuckle! (Actually, their "evil corporate goal" is probably "to accelerate the use of Raw photography worldwide". I see NO other goal that is compatible with what Adobe are doing with DNG). Actually, it does a good job of pointing out that if the camera makers would generate DNG in the first place, we wouldn't have to worry about software updates like this at all. Bravo! Who is part of the problem? Who is part of the solution? And can we conclude from this that Adobe's business plan doesn't include forcing people to upgrade simply because their cameras are not supported by old versions of Camera Raw? -- Barry Pearson http://www.barry.pearson.name/photography/ http://www.birdsandanimals.info/ |
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