Nikon D50 in the works, D200 a hoax

"True211" wrote in message
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Someone posted a photo and specs of what was supposed to be a leaked D200
from Nikon. I just checked the US Patent and Trademark Office for "D200"
and
nothing came up.

However.... grin

Nikon *did* file a TM for the D50 logo on Feb 8, 2005.

See for yourself:

http://www.uspto.gov

The Trademark doesn't have to be filed in the USA. Filing a Trademark in
Japan would still be a protected TM under International Law. They can file
for a USA one at a later date.

"Kevin McMurtrie" wrote in message
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"C J Campbell" wrote:

"Sheldon" wrote in message
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But, some of the most successful companies don't sit at the forefront
of
technology.

Near as I can tell, Nikon has never tried to be on "the bleeding edge"
of
technology. They had a reputation for conservatism clear back in the
'60s.
Let all those other guys try out new-fangled ideas like TTL metering,
auto-focus, etc. Then pick the best ideas and make them bulletproof.
Come to
think of it, Canon really does a lot of the same thing. I am hard
pressed to
think of any technology that was first introduced by either Nikon or
Canon.

I think Canon is the first to sell astrophotography versions of
pro/consumer digicams.

How many of the 20Da will actually be produced, and at what cost?

"C J Campbell" wrote in message
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"Sheldon" wrote in message
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But, some of the most successful companies don't sit at the forefront of
technology.

Near as I can tell, Nikon has never tried to be on "the bleeding edge" of
technology. They had a reputation for conservatism clear back in the '60s.
Let all those other guys try out new-fangled ideas like TTL metering,
auto-focus, etc. Then pick the best ideas and make them bulletproof. Come
to
think of it, Canon really does a lot of the same thing. I am hard pressed
to
think of any technology that was first introduced by either Nikon or
Canon.

Odd how the D200 was competitive to the D30, D60, 10D... So now Canon is on
their 6th generation of dSLR during the life-time of the D100. Will there be
a D200, YES! But it may not be called a D200. What if Nikon, tongue-in-cheek
called it the D100 mk.II, AFAIK you can't trademark "mk.II"

As for your other point, the technology often was developed by others. First
OTF metering, was Olympus OM-2. Multi-Coated lenses Asahi/Zeiss co-venture
in the form of Super Multi Coating/T*

"Bubbabob" wrote in message
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Woodchuck Bill wrote:


To confuse the hell out of first-time dSLR buyers like myself. I was
set on the D70...then Canon had to drop the XT bomb and now Nikon is
hitting us with this small silver bullet.


They're insane if they stick with that dRebley-looking silver and black
color scheme that just screams 'CHEAP TOY'. I know people who chose D70's
over dRebels just because the Canon was too ugly to be seen with.

If you are referring to the Photoshopped image on DPReview forums
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/re...ssage=12332761

Front view you can see the door release of the F55, the back view you see
the USB connection.

Sort of like the watch in Ben Hur, or the jet vapour trails on Bonanza...

Someone posted a photo and specs of what was supposed to be a leaked D200
from Nikon. I just checked the US Patent and Trademark Office for "D200" and
nothing came up.

However.... grin

Nikon *did* file a TM for the D50 logo on Feb 8, 2005.

See for yourself:

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...ate=1b3qt5.3.1

I looked at the recent TM filings by Nikon and only found the D50, so it is
unlikely that any other DSLR will be announced any time soon.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2EF1248A

I'm confused as to why they would work on a scaled-down D70 before a much
needed upgrade to the D100.

On Sat, 19 Feb 2005 16:11:11 -0500, "True211"
wrote:

I'm confused as to why they would work on a scaled-down D70 before a much
needed upgrade to the D100.

It's like a loss leader in the supermarket. If you can get someone to
buy the starter camera and invest in a few more lenses, you can keep
them as a customer for the rest of their lives. So Nikon may come out
with something even cheaper than the 300D.

McLeod wrote:

If you can get someone to buy the starter camera and
invest in a few more lenses, you can keep them as a
customer for the rest of their lives. So Nikon may
come out with something even cheaper than the 300D.

The lock-in, of course, only works for people who upgrade
bodies more often than the maker rolls lens generations.
Alternatively, the maker can avoid unwise decisions about
supporting legacy lens mounts.

My DSLR was funded by selling of my collection of Canon
A-1 and FD (mostly newFD) stuff. Because Canon deliberately
designed the EF mount so that FD glass could not be made
100% adaptable to EOS cams, the loyalty factor was shot.

Indeed, after dumping the lot on eBay, I was ready to try
switching to Nikon or any of several other brands. Had
the D70 been ready, I might be a Nikon user today.

Another factor is "a few more lenses". For many entry-level
SLR/DSLR users, they never own more than the kit lens the
cam came with. Lens lock-in never takes root at all.

--
Regards, Bob Niland
http://www.access-one.com/rjn email4rjn AT yahoo DOT com
NOT speaking for any employer, client or Internet Service Provider.

On Saturday 19 February 2005 13:11, True211 wrote:

Someone posted a photo and specs of what was supposed to be a leaked
D200 from Nikon. I just checked the US Patent and Trademark Office for
"D200" and nothing came up.

However.... grin

Nikon *did* file a TM for the D50 logo on Feb 8, 2005.

See for yourself:

http://tess2.uspto.gov/bin/showfield...ate=1b3qt5.3.1

I looked at the recent TM filings by Nikon and only found the D50, so
it is unlikely that any other DSLR will be announced any time soon.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?O2EF1248A

I'm confused as to why they would work on a scaled-down D70 before a
much needed upgrade to the D100.

Same reason 40 years ago they came out with the Nikkormat F, a poorman's
Nikon FTn, more or less. And same reason since then that they've come
out with a scaled down version (featurewise) of top-of-the-line
professional models: To sell to the amateurs, who want a Nikon, but
won't (or can't) pay the dollars for the pro models.

--
Stefan Patric
NoLife Polymath Group

"Bob Niland" wrote in message
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The lock-in, of course, only works for people who upgrade
bodies more often than the maker rolls lens generations.
Alternatively, the maker can avoid unwise decisions about
supporting legacy lens mounts.

Rolling of lens generations is pretty rare.

My DSLR was funded by selling of my collection of Canon
A-1 and FD (mostly newFD) stuff. Because Canon deliberately
designed the EF mount so that FD glass could not be made
100% adaptable to EOS cams, the loyalty factor was shot.

The FD mount couldn't take Canon into the professional film market, and an
adapter for manual mode was as far as they could go for adaptability. You
make it sound as if it would have been easy to get full compatibility
between FD lenses and EOS bodies. The FD stuff didn't stop working with FD
bodies simply because the EOS system was introduced. Getting mad because a
company comes out with new products that don't work with their old products,
is ridiculous.

Nikon has retained the F mount but not all older F mount lenses work on
newer F mount bodies. And the F mount has a lot of baggage that is hurting
Nikon right now. Because of the back focus distance, they can't do something
similar to what Canon did with the EF-s lenses, to compensate for the crop
factor. Nikon is eventually going to have to replace the F mount, then
you'll hear some serious screaming.

Another factor is "a few more lenses". For many entry-level
SLR/DSLR users, they never own more than the kit lens the
cam came with. Lens lock-in never takes root at all.

Many never get any more lenses, but I think a lot do get at least a
telephoto.

"True211" wrote in message
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I'm confused as to why they would work on a scaled-down D70 before a much
needed upgrade to the D100.

They must be working on both, as well as a full frame professional model.
They want to compete in every segment of the Digital SLR market. Nikon's
problem is that they are behind Canon in sensor development, and sensor
development is difficult and time consuming.

Entry level: _______, Digital Rebel
Consumer Level: D70, Digital Rebel XT
Prosumer Level: _______, 20D
Semi-Pro: D2x, 1D Mark II
Pro: ________, 1Ds Mark II