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Corel announces PaintShop Pro X5 - DPReview
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 20:29:22 +0200, Wolfgang Weisselberg
wrote: Alan Browne wrote: On 2012.09.05[36] 14:40 , Bruce wrote: Corel has announced PaintShop Pro X5, the latest version of its photo Gimp is better. Especially when it runs on the machine, but PaintShop does not. What machine are you referring to? -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Corel announces PaintShop Pro X5 - DPReview
| But with "features"
| like the PS ability to "predictively fill-in" background after | an item is removed from a photo (like filling in trees when | a barn is removed from a landscape), while an interesting | feature that might sometimes be useful, especially for | commercial work in a hurry, I wouldn't count that in judging | a program as an overall graphic editor. | | why not? it's part of the package and can easily make you more | productive. Maybe so. But I'm not likely to need such a function. And I'm as wary of "feature creep" as I am of inadequate software. So I'm wondering about the basic functionality (post-raw). What do you mean that the old way of adjusting brightness was linear? I was under the impression that it's mainly a formula applied to up the numeric color values of each pixel. |
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Corel announces PaintShop Pro X5 - DPReview
On Thu, 6 Sep 2012 19:43:40 -0400, "Mayayana"
wrote: | But with "features" | like the PS ability to "predictively fill-in" background after | an item is removed from a photo (like filling in trees when | a barn is removed from a landscape), while an interesting | feature that might sometimes be useful, especially for | commercial work in a hurry, I wouldn't count that in judging | a program as an overall graphic editor. | | why not? it's part of the package and can easily make you more | productive. Maybe so. But I'm not likely to need such a function. Nikon NX2 has similar but probably not as powerful capabilities. The other day I had to delete an unsightly blue fire hydrant from behind a tree and in front of a trellis fence. NX2 made the removal of the pipe and its replacement with more trellis a task of more or less 30 seconds. Doing it with masking and cloning would have been much more laborious. And I'm as wary of "feature creep" as I am of inadequate software. So I'm wondering about the basic functionality (post-raw). What do you mean that the old way of adjusting brightness was linear? I was under the impression that it's mainly a formula applied to up the numeric color values of each pixel. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Corel announces PaintShop Pro X5 - DPReview
In article , Mayayana
wrote: | But with "features" | like the PS ability to "predictively fill-in" background after | an item is removed from a photo (like filling in trees when | a barn is removed from a landscape), while an interesting | feature that might sometimes be useful, especially for | commercial work in a hurry, I wouldn't count that in judging | a program as an overall graphic editor. | | why not? it's part of the package and can easily make you more | productive. Maybe so. But I'm not likely to need such a function. And I'm as wary of "feature creep" as I am of inadequate software. So I'm wondering about the basic functionality (post-raw). just because they add features you might not use does not mean the ones you do use are neglected. What do you mean that the old way of adjusting brightness was linear? I was under the impression that it's mainly a formula applied to up the numeric color values of each pixel. http://www.earthboundlight.com/photo...ast-photoshop- cs3.html Increasing Brightness with any version of Photoshop prior to CS3 simply adds whatever you set the control at to every pixel in the image, shifting everything towards the right in the histogram. .... Rather than operating equally, in a linear fashion, on all pixels in an image, the new Brightness/Contrast algorithm operates proportionally, much as Levels and Curves do. Pixels more in need of adjustment receive more of the effects of any change you make. |
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Corel announces PaintShop Pro X5 - DPReview
In article , Wolfgang
Weisselberg wrote: I typically use contrast/brightness/saturation/hue/ cutting and patching selections/ etc. To my mind something like a higher quality contrast or brightness function would be notable, if such a thing is even possible. (I'm not so sure it is. Those functions are plain math.) actually it's more than just math. It is? What else is it --- living pixies, kept in slavery? the point is that it changed. the math for brightness/contrast in pre-cs3 is different than cs3 and later. |
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Corel announces PaintShop Pro X5 - DPReview
"Eric Stevens" wrote in message ... If you wanted to respond to Alan Browne you should not have responded to my article. You should have responded directly to Alan. I responded to the thread, I don't respond to the authors personally. I wasn't responding to that post, and thus included *NO* part of your reply. One thing I didn't decide is that the thread belonged to you alone. Not sure why you did. The thread doesn't belong to me but the position in the thread to which you were responding does belong to me. Hence the confusion. Only for you, I'm sure others can read what is written without making incorrect assumptions. Trevor. |
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Corel announces PaintShop Pro X5 - DPReview
On Fri, 7 Sep 2012 17:15:22 +1000, "Trevor" wrote:
"Eric Stevens" wrote in message .. . If you wanted to respond to Alan Browne you should not have responded to my article. You should have responded directly to Alan. I responded to the thread, I don't respond to the authors personally. It's not the thread that writes articles. It's the individual authors to whom you say you don't respond. Just who do you think wrote the article to which you have tagged on your response? I wasn't responding to that post, and thus included *NO* part of your reply. One thing I didn't decide is that the thread belonged to you alone. Not sure why you did. The thread doesn't belong to me but the position in the thread to which you were responding does belong to me. Hence the confusion. Only for you, I'm sure others can read what is written without making incorrect assumptions. How easy would it be for you to follow this thread if instead of writing this article I tagged my response to you on to an article written by another person? -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Corel announces PaintShop Pro X5 - DPReview
| What do you mean that the old way of adjusting brightness
| was linear? I was under the impression that it's mainly a | formula applied to up the numeric color values of each | pixel. | | http://www.earthboundlight.com/photo...ast-photoshop- | cs3.html | Increasing Brightness with any version of Photoshop prior to CS3 | simply adds whatever you set the control at to every pixel in the | image, shifting everything towards the right in the histogram. | ... | Rather than operating equally, in a linear fashion, on all pixels in | an image, the new Brightness/Contrast algorithm operates | proportionally, much as Levels and Curves do. Pixels more in need of | adjustment receive more of the effects of any change you make. Thanks. I wasn't aware of that. Though the sample picture is not very impressive. The new-style brightness sample looks more like a hue adjustment. I guess that's partly due to the limitation of the processing. With brightness what we want to do is to provide more light to our vision, but that can't be done for a simple bitmapped image. We can't "see better" into the cracks in the badlands landscape of the sample because the data simply isn't there. So brightness adjustment is always partly wishful thinking. |
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Corel announces PaintShop Pro X5 - DPReview
On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 20:35:51 -0700, nospam
wrote: In article , Mayayana wrote: | But with "features" | like the PS ability to "predictively fill-in" background after | an item is removed from a photo (like filling in trees when | a barn is removed from a landscape), while an interesting | feature that might sometimes be useful, especially for | commercial work in a hurry, I wouldn't count that in judging | a program as an overall graphic editor. | | why not? it's part of the package and can easily make you more | productive. Maybe so. But I'm not likely to need such a function. And I'm as wary of "feature creep" as I am of inadequate software. So I'm wondering about the basic functionality (post-raw). just because they add features you might not use does not mean the ones you do use are neglected. What do you mean that the old way of adjusting brightness was linear? I was under the impression that it's mainly a formula applied to up the numeric color values of each pixel. http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/brightness-contrast-photoshop-cs3.html Increasing Brightness with any version of Photoshop prior to CS3 simply adds whatever you set the control at to every pixel in the image, shifting everything towards the right in the histogram. ... Rather than operating equally, in a linear fashion, on all pixels in an image, the new Brightness/Contrast algorithm operates proportionally, much as Levels and Curves do. Pixels more in need of adjustment receive more of the effects of any change you make. I don't know Photo Shop but Paint Shop Pro, Photo Paint and Nikon Capture NX2 all enable the same functionality through histogram adjustments. I would expect Photo Shop to incorporate the same functionality. -- Regards, Eric Stevens |
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Corel announces PaintShop Pro X5 - DPReview
On 9/7/2012 7:30 PM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Thu, 06 Sep 2012 20:35:51 -0700, nospam wrote: In article , Mayayana wrote: | But with "features" | like the PS ability to "predictively fill-in" background after | an item is removed from a photo (like filling in trees when | a barn is removed from a landscape), while an interesting | feature that might sometimes be useful, especially for | commercial work in a hurry, I wouldn't count that in judging | a program as an overall graphic editor. | | why not? it's part of the package and can easily make you more | productive. Maybe so. But I'm not likely to need such a function. And I'm as wary of "feature creep" as I am of inadequate software. So I'm wondering about the basic functionality (post-raw). just because they add features you might not use does not mean the ones you do use are neglected. What do you mean that the old way of adjusting brightness was linear? I was under the impression that it's mainly a formula applied to up the numeric color values of each pixel. http://www.earthboundlight.com/phototips/brightness-contrast-photoshop-cs3.html Increasing Brightness with any version of Photoshop prior to CS3 simply adds whatever you set the control at to every pixel in the image, shifting everything towards the right in the histogram. ... Rather than operating equally, in a linear fashion, on all pixels in an image, the new Brightness/Contrast algorithm operates proportionally, much as Levels and Curves do. Pixels more in need of adjustment receive more of the effects of any change you make. I don't know Photo Shop but Paint Shop Pro, Photo Paint and Nikon Capture NX2 all enable the same functionality through histogram adjustments. I would expect Photo Shop to incorporate the same functionality. IIRC You can download a trial. -- Peter |
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