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"Jay" wrote in message ... Google Groups rec. photo darkroom Back in the day (don't ask me what day that was) Lica; Nikon; Contax; Canon; Olympus; & other 35mm manufactures sold re-loadable cassettes that would only operate w/ their cameras. Many if not all cassettes, once installed in the camera, would open to allow the film to be advanced w/o drawing it through a scratchy felt light trap. Do any of these companies cameras still operate these dedicated cassettes? I.E. will a Nikon f5 work w/ a Nikon dedicated reusable cassette. If not, does any one know which models discontinued this feature? I've Googled my eyeballs out and can find no info. relating to specifically if any mfrs still makes a camera that interfaces w/ these dedicated cassettes. In fact I keep getting the same Wikipedia & other stories over & over again. They retell the 1st 35mm film & Lica's contribution to advance the use of 35mm, over & over again & mention Kalt & other non dedicated cassettes that drag the film through a felt passage available today. Any info about this greatly appreciated, Particularity;y about Nikon & Olympus OMs. Thank you, JD I have some ancient Nikon cassettes for use in my F-1. You are right that these cassettes were dedicated to particular cameras although I believe that some cameras take Leica type cassettes and some Contax type, perhaps there were others. I mostly use no-name reloadable cassettes from Freestyle. I've had some for years and have never had problems from scratching from the velour gate. I do take the precaution of cleaning cassettes carefully before using them. I don't know if any of the dedicated cassettes are still made, probably you will have to find them on the used market. For those not familiar with these they use a shutter arrangement instead of a felt or velour film gate. The shutter is opened and closed by a lever in the camera. While this method eliminates the film touching any part of the cassette when feeding or rewinding but, if not carefully loaded, they can jam and I have had that problem. -- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA |
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"Jay" wrote in message ... On Jan 8, 12:21 am, "Richard Knoppow" wrote: "Jay" wrote in message ... Google Groups rec. photo darkroom Back in the day (don't ask me what day that was) Lica; Nikon; Contax; Canon; Olympus; & other 35mm manufactures sold re-loadable cassettes that would only operate w/ their cameras. Many if not all cassettes, once installed in the camera, would open to allow the film to be advanced w/o drawing it through a scratchy felt light trap. Do any of these companies cameras still operate these dedicated cassettes? I.E. will a Nikon f5 work w/ a Nikon dedicated reusable cassette. If not, does any one know which models discontinued this feature? I've Googled my eyeballs out and can find no info. relating to specifically if any mfrs still makes a camera that interfaces w/ these dedicated cassettes. In fact I keep getting the same Wikipedia & other stories over & over again. They retell the 1st 35mm film & Lica's contribution to advance the use of 35mm, over & over again & mention Kalt & other non dedicated cassettes that drag the film through a felt passage available today. Any info about this greatly appreciated, Particularity;y about Nikon & Olympus OMs. Thank you, JD I have some ancient Nikon cassettes for use in my F-1. You are right that these cassettes were dedicated to particular cameras although I believe that some cameras take Leica type cassettes and some Contax type, perhaps there were others. I mostly use no-name reloadable cassettes from Freestyle. I've had some for years and have never had problems from scratching from the velour gate. I do take the precaution of cleaning cassettes carefully before using them. I don't know if any of the dedicated cassettes are still made, probably you will have to find them on the used market. For those not familiar with these they use a shutter arrangement instead of a felt or velour film gate. The shutter is opened and closed by a lever in the camera. While this method eliminates the film touching any part of the cassette when feeding or rewinding but, if not carefully loaded, they can jam and I have had that problem. -- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA Oh BTW What are the exact precautions you take? How do you clean the felt light trap? Thanks again Richard Mostly just with canned air. However, you can also use sticky tape, like Scotch tape or masking tape to pull grit off the felt. The problem is that it can also pull some fibers off the cloth. I Keep the cassettes in a plastic bag between uses and in cans when loaded. That also helps because they get a minimum exposure to grit. BTW, I still have a lot of Kodak cassettes from before they began to swage the ends on. Having said this cassettes have a limited life because they will eventually begin to leak light or scratch the film. My Nikon cassettes all came without the spools but I found conventional plastic spools work OK. I suspect the originals may have had some sort of fastening on them for the end of the film, I just use black masking tape. -- -- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA |
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"jay" wrote in message ... On Jan 10, 8:50 pm, "Richard Knoppow" wrote: "Jay" wrote in message ... On Jan 8, 12:21 am, "Richard Knoppow" wrote: "Jay" wrote in message ... Google Groups rec. photo darkroom Back in the day (don't ask me what day that was) Lica; Nikon; Contax; Canon; Olympus; & other 35mm manufactures sold re-loadable cassettes that would only operate w/ their cameras. Many if not all cassettes, once installed in the camera, would open to allow the film to be advanced w/o drawing it through a scratchy felt light trap. Do any of these companies cameras still operate these dedicated cassettes? I.E. will a Nikon f5 work w/ a Nikon dedicated reusable cassette. If not, does any one know which models discontinued this feature? I've Googled my eyeballs out and can find no info. relating to specifically if any mfrs still makes a camera that interfaces w/ these dedicated cassettes. In fact I keep getting the same Wikipedia & other stories over & over again. They retell the 1st 35mm film & Lica's contribution to advance the use of 35mm, over & over again & mention Kalt & other non dedicated cassettes that drag the film through a felt passage available today. Any info about this greatly appreciated, Particularity;y about Nikon & Olympus OMs. Thank you, JD I have some ancient Nikon cassettes for use in my F-1. You are right that these cassettes were dedicated to particular cameras although I believe that some cameras take Leica type cassettes and some Contax type, perhaps there were others. I mostly use no-name reloadable cassettes from Freestyle. I've had some for years and have never had problems from scratching from the velour gate. I do take the precaution of cleaning cassettes carefully before using them. I don't know if any of the dedicated cassettes are still made, probably you will have to find them on the used market. For those not familiar with these they use a shutter arrangement instead of a felt or velour film gate. The shutter is opened and closed by a lever in the camera. While this method eliminates the film touching any part of the cassette when feeding or rewinding but, if not carefully loaded, they can jam and I have had that problem. -- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA Oh BTW What are the exact precautions you take? How do you clean the felt light trap? Thanks again Richard Mostly just with canned air. However, you can also use sticky tape, like Scotch tape or masking tape to pull grit off the felt. The problem is that it can also pull some fibers off the cloth. I Keep the cassettes in a plastic bag between uses and in cans when loaded. That also helps because they get a minimum exposure to grit. BTW, I still have a lot of Kodak cassettes from before they began to swage the ends on. Having said this cassettes have a limited life because they will eventually begin to leak light or scratch the film. My Nikon cassettes all came without the spools but I found conventional plastic spools work OK. I suspect the originals may have had some sort of fastening on them for the end of the film, I just use black masking tape. -- -- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA Yes, masking tape would work just fine. In fact isn't that what Kodak does w/ their new rolls of film? Thank you again Richard JD I'm not sure what kind of tape Kodak and others use. It isn't masking tape or regular sticky tape but the tape doesn't matter much as long as it fastens the end of the film to the spool. -- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA |
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On 2/12/2010 7:55 AM Richard Knoppow spake thus:
"jay" wrote in message ... Yes, masking tape would work just fine. In fact isn't that what Kodak does w/ their new rolls of film? I'm not sure what kind of tape Kodak and others use. It isn't masking tape or regular sticky tape but the tape doesn't matter much as long as it fastens the end of the film to the spool. [note message trimming] I think this may have been discussed here before, but does the tape that Kodak use still light up when it's peeled apart? I remember being really surprised (a long time ago) when I developed my first rolls of film, standing there in the dark and seeing this relatively bright flash as I peeled the end of the film off the spool. I thought that the roll was ruined. -- You were wrong, and I'm man enough to admit it. - a Usenet "apology" |
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"David Nebenzahl" wrote in message s.com... On 2/12/2010 7:55 AM Richard Knoppow spake thus: I think this may have been discussed here before, but does the tape that Kodak use still light up when it's peeled apart? I remember being really surprised (a long time ago) when I developed my first rolls of film, standing there in the dark and seeing this relatively bright flash as I peeled the end of the film off the spool. I thought that the roll was ruined. Probably does, lots of sticky tape does this. Its known as a triboelectric effect. (q.v. Wikipedia) -- Richard Knoppow Los Angeles, CA, USA |
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