LightRoom Mobile and external storage

On 18/10/17 20:15, nospam wrote:
In article , Tim Watts
wrote:

Tony Northrup was saying he liked...

whatever he was paid to say. he is a shill.


I wasn't impressed because he said it - I didn't even know it was a
"thing" - I looked up some vids on YT and came to my own conclusion.

Yes - I know he's sponsored to buggery, but I do get useful stuff from
some of his videos.

On Oct 18, 2017, Davoud wrote
(in article ):

Savageduck:

Currently the best of breed for asset management is Lightroom,

Tim Watts:
That was my conclusion after a lot of research. ACDsee looked good but
lacked mobile support.

and if you are
going that route, then there is a new development which might suit you even
better. Adobe has just announced a change to their Adobe CC line up which
would give you 1TB of Adobe Creative Cloud storage and new Lightroom CC for
$10/month. With 1TB you wouldn’t need any elaborate storage. I
currently
use the Photography plan which gives me 20GB.

Oh yes! So I can keep a full copy in the cloud? Cool. That will help a
lot...

I wanted to answer your question but I was hobbled by a non-disclosure
agreement. I've been a beta tester for Lightroom Classic CC (the
Lightroom that we've known and loved, but with many improvements) and
the brand new Lightroom CC, which is exclusively cloud-based. I was
expecting release this week, but didn't know which day.

Staying within the confines of my NDA, I'll tell you that Lightroom CC
will do what you want. I speak from the Mac and iPad Pro experience
(and it's a fantastic photo platform!). AFAIK (but I could be wrong),
Lightroom Mobile on iOS can't import directly from a card or camera;
the pics have to go into the Apple Photos app. An extra step, but no
big thing. From there they can be imported into Lightroom Mobile. They
are available for editing on the iPad and they automatically sync to Lr
Classic CC *and* the new Lightroom CC on your computer. In the case of
Lr Classic CC the photo goes onto your HD. With Lightroom CC it is also
in the cloud. I have both new programs -- Lightroom CC Classic and
Lightroom CC -- on my Macs.

I got my email from Apple this morning, and I have updated Lightroom CC 2015
to Lightroom Classic CC. I have also updated Photoshop CC, and I have
discovered that my Lightroom Mobile images are now directly accessible via
Photoshop.

Lightroom Classic CC has more powerful editing routines than Lightroom
CC or Lightroom Mobile.

I understand that LR CC will be updated to include many of the features of
Lightroom Classic CC.

Referring to Q1 in your original post, you cannot edit photos directly
from your card. You must import them into Lightroom Mobile from the
card or from wherever they are on your Android flash storage (I know
nothing of Android). And recall that they are also going to Lightroom
CC /and/ Lightroom Classic CC on your computer if you have both. If you
have only Lightroom CC they will be in the cloud, but a full-resolution
copy in raw format can be saved to your HD with a right-click.

Q2 is moot; you can insert as many SD cards as you wish and import the
photos into Lightroom Mobile as described above. The photos are in the
cloud and the SD card is now out of the picture and you may import
photos from other SD cards to your heart's content.

Of course, sync works the other way. Add a photo to Lightroom CC on
your computer and it appears in Lightroom Mobile. And in Lightroom
Classic CC. Add a photo in Lightroom Classic CC and with a single
keystroke ("b") it syncs to the cloud, appears in Lightroom CC, and in
Lightroom Mobile on your device(s). Touch "b" again and it is removed
from the cloud world but remains in your Lightroom Classic CC library.

Finally, Lightroom Mobile can use your mobile camera. The photo will go
to the cloud and appear in Lightroom CC /and/ Lightroom Classic CC. I
love it!

BTW, Lightroom CC and Lightroom Classic CC can be open and running on
your computer simultaneously.

Interesting.
Can LR CC and LR Classic CC share catalogues?

There is a lot of interoperability, there are many combinations of ways
to manipulate photos with the new Lightroom products. Read the stuff
that SD referenced. There is a learning curve, but one can start simply
and grow. Have fun!

Me? I've got to investigate the cost of Adobe's cloud storage. My
Lightroom catalogue is modest in size compared to that of a
professional, but it's still 1 GB in size for 20,000 photos. 2TB would
be good, if it's affordable.

I am a tad confused as in my Members offer Adobe tells me that I have the new
LR CC included in my Photography Plan with my current 20GB of cloud storage,
but I can get the entire 1TB package for $14.99/month. Yet in the offered
plans there is no $14.99/month grandfather offer, just the $19.99/month for
the added 1TB. Could you clarify.

Get a 27" iMac and an iPad Pro and you'll learn the meaning of bliss in
desktop and mobile computing.

Yup! I am thoughly enjoying my 10.5� 512GB iPad Pro, Apple Pencil, and
Smart keyboard.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

On 18/10/17 20:17, Savageduck wrote:
On Oct 18, 2017, Tim Watts wrote
(in ):

On 18/10/17 17:33, Savageduck wrote:
http://news.adobe.com/press-release/...ntroduces-new-
lightroom-cc-cloud-photography-service

"Lightroom CC features the same power as Photoshop and Lightroom but a
new streamlined user interface that allows for powerful editing of
full-resolution photos on desktop, mobile, and the Web. "

Sorry - didn't see that 'til just now:

"and the Web" - now that is exciting, if I can do more without booting
Windows in VMWare on my Linux laptop. That was one reason I was looking
at getting a MacBook - but maybe I won't need to bother...

I would check on support. I doubt that there will be any sort of Linux
support for the new Adobe CC/Lightroom CC on the Web or otherwise.


I assumed "Web" meant "works in Chromium" - it would be hard to see how
they could overlook the most popular browser (3 x the share of the
no2, IE 11)

On 18/10/17 20:26, android wrote:

I have another workflow meself...


What's yours?

On 18/10/17 21:29, Davoud wrote:
Savageduck:

Currently the best of breed for asset management is Lightroom,

Tim Watts:
That was my conclusion after a lot of research. ACDsee looked good but
lacked mobile support.

and if you are
going that route, then there is a new development which might suit you even
better. Adobe has just announced a change to their Adobe CC line up which
would give you 1TB of Adobe Creative Cloud storage and new Lightroom CC for
$10/month. With 1TB you wouldn’t need any elaborate storage. I currently
use the Photography plan which gives me 20GB.

Oh yes! So I can keep a full copy in the cloud? Cool. That will help a
lot...

I wanted to answer your question but I was hobbled by a non-disclosure
agreement. I've been a beta tester for Lightroom Classic CC (the
Lightroom that we've known and loved, but with many improvements) and
the brand new Lightroom CC, which is exclusively cloud-based. I was
expecting release this week, but didn't know which day.

Staying within the confines of my NDA, I'll tell you that Lightroom CC
will do what you want. I speak from the Mac and iPad Pro experience
(and it's a fantastic photo platform!). AFAIK (but I could be wrong),
Lightroom Mobile on iOS can't import directly from a card or camera;
the pics have to go into the Apple Photos app. An extra step, but no
big thing. From there they can be imported into Lightroom Mobile. They
are available for editing on the iPad and they automatically sync to Lr
Classic CC *and* the new Lightroom CC on your computer. In the case of
Lr Classic CC the photo goes onto your HD. With Lightroom CC it is also
in the cloud. I have both new programs -- Lightroom CC Classic and
Lightroom CC -- on my Macs.

Lightroom Classic CC has more powerful editing routines than Lightroom
CC or Lightroom Mobile.

Thank you for that Appreciate the NDA...

Referring to Q1 in your original post, you cannot edit photos directly
from your card. You must import them into Lightroom Mobile from the
card or from wherever they are on your Android flash storage (I know
nothing of Android). And recall that they are also going to Lightroom
CC /and/ Lightroom Classic CC on your computer if you have both. If you
have only Lightroom CC they will be in the cloud, but a full-resolution
copy in raw format can be saved to your HD with a right-click.

OK - ta.

Q2 is moot; you can insert as many SD cards as you wish and import the
photos into Lightroom Mobile as described above. The photos are in the
cloud and the SD card is now out of the picture and you may import
photos from other SD cards to your heart's content.

Wonderful - that's exactly what I was after. Sounds like they've cracked it.

I have a CC sub to play with the old LR/PS - I'll convert that to LR/CC

Of course, sync works the other way. Add a photo to Lightroom CC on
your computer and it appears in Lightroom Mobile. And in Lightroom
Classic CC. Add a photo in Lightroom Classic CC and with a single
keystroke ("b") it syncs to the cloud, appears in Lightroom CC, and in
Lightroom Mobile on your device(s). Touch "b" again and it is removed
from the cloud world but remains in your Lightroom Classic CC library.

Awesome. I will probably run the first phase from my PC (with Windows in
VMWare if necessary) to import the bulk.

Finally, Lightroom Mobile can use your mobile camera. The photo will go
to the cloud and appear in Lightroom CC /and/ Lightroom Classic CC. I
love it!

Excellent.


BTW, Lightroom CC and Lightroom Classic CC can be open and running on
your computer simultaneously.

There is a lot of interoperability, there are many combinations of ways
to manipulate photos with the new Lightroom products. Read the stuff
that SD referenced. There is a learning curve, but one can start simply
and grow. Have fun!

Me? I've got to investigate the cost of Adobe's cloud storage. My
Lightroom catalogue is modest in size compared to that of a
professional, but it's still 1 GB in size for 20,000 photos. 2TB would
be good, if it's affordable.

Get a 27" iMac and an iPad Pro and you'll learn the meaning of bliss in
desktop and mobile computing.


Even with educational discount available to me by virtue of my work, I'm
still going to be poor!

On Oct 18, 2017, Savageduck wrote
(in iganews.com):

On Oct 18, 2017, Davoud wrote
(in article ):

Savageduck:

Currently the best of breed for asset management is Lightroom,

Tim Watts:
That was my conclusion after a lot of research. ACDsee looked good but
lacked mobile support.

and if you are
going that route, then there is a new development which might suit you
even
better. Adobe has just announced a change to their Adobe CC line up which
would give you 1TB of Adobe Creative Cloud storage and new Lightroom CC
for
$10/month. With 1TB you wouldn’t need any elaborate storage. I
currently
use the Photography plan which gives me 20GB.

Oh yes! So I can keep a full copy in the cloud? Cool. That will help a
lot...

I wanted to answer your question but I was hobbled by a non-disclosure
agreement. I've been a beta tester for Lightroom Classic CC (the
Lightroom that we've known and loved, but with many improvements) and
the brand new Lightroom CC, which is exclusively cloud-based. I was
expecting release this week, but didn't know which day.

Staying within the confines of my NDA, I'll tell you that Lightroom CC
will do what you want. I speak from the Mac and iPad Pro experience
(and it's a fantastic photo platform!). AFAIK (but I could be wrong),
Lightroom Mobile on iOS can't import directly from a card or camera;
the pics have to go into the Apple Photos app. An extra step, but no
big thing. From there they can be imported into Lightroom Mobile. They
are available for editing on the iPad and they automatically sync to Lr
Classic CC *and* the new Lightroom CC on your computer. In the case of
Lr Classic CC the photo goes onto your HD. With Lightroom CC it is also
in the cloud. I have both new programs -- Lightroom CC Classic and
Lightroom CC -- on my Macs.

I got my email from Apple this morning, and I have updated Lightroom CC 2015
to Lightroom Classic CC. I have also updated Photoshop CC, and I have
discovered that my Lightroom Mobile images are now directly accessible via
Photoshop.

Lightroom Classic CC has more powerful editing routines than Lightroom
CC or Lightroom Mobile.

I understand that LR CC will be updated to include many of the features of
Lightroom Classic CC.

Referring to Q1 in your original post, you cannot edit photos directly
from your card. You must import them into Lightroom Mobile from the
card or from wherever they are on your Android flash storage (I know
nothing of Android). And recall that they are also going to Lightroom
CC /and/ Lightroom Classic CC on your computer if you have both. If you
have only Lightroom CC they will be in the cloud, but a full-resolution
copy in raw format can be saved to your HD with a right-click.

Q2 is moot; you can insert as many SD cards as you wish and import the
photos into Lightroom Mobile as described above. The photos are in the
cloud and the SD card is now out of the picture and you may import
photos from other SD cards to your heart's content.

Of course, sync works the other way. Add a photo to Lightroom CC on
your computer and it appears in Lightroom Mobile. And in Lightroom
Classic CC. Add a photo in Lightroom Classic CC and with a single
keystroke ("b") it syncs to the cloud, appears in Lightroom CC, and in
Lightroom Mobile on your device(s). Touch "b" again and it is removed
from the cloud world but remains in your Lightroom Classic CC library.

Finally, Lightroom Mobile can use your mobile camera. The photo will go
to the cloud and appear in Lightroom CC /and/ Lightroom Classic CC. I
love it!

BTW, Lightroom CC and Lightroom Classic CC can be open and running on
your computer simultaneously.

Interesting.
Can LR CC and LR Classic CC share catalogues?

There is a lot of interoperability, there are many combinations of ways
to manipulate photos with the new Lightroom products. Read the stuff
that SD referenced. There is a learning curve, but one can start simply
and grow. Have fun!

Me? I've got to investigate the cost of Adobe's cloud storage. My
Lightroom catalogue is modest in size compared to that of a
professional, but it's still 1 GB in size for 20,000 photos. 2TB would
be good, if it's affordable.

I am a tad confused as in my Members offer Adobe tells me that I have the new
LR CC included in my Photography Plan with my current 20GB of cloud storage,
but I can get the entire 1TB package for $14.99/month. Yet in the offered
plans there is no $14.99/month grandfather offer, just the $19.99/month for
the added 1TB. Could you clarify.

Get a 27" iMac and an iPad Pro and you'll learn the meaning of bliss in
desktop and mobile computing.

Yup! I am thoughly enjoying my 10.5� 512GB iPad Pro, Apple Pencil, and
Smart keyboard.

BTW: Adobe Lightroom Mobile on my iPhone, and iPad Pro just updated as Adobe
Lightroom CC.

--

Regards,
Savageduck

On 10/18/2017 5:01 PM, Savageduck wrote:
On Oct 18, 2017, Davoud wrote
(in article ):

Savageduck:

Currently the best of breed for asset management is Lightroom,

Tim Watts:
That was my conclusion after a lot of research. ACDsee looked good but
lacked mobile support.

and if you are
going that route, then there is a new development which might suit you even
better. Adobe has just announced a change to their Adobe CC line up which
would give you 1TB of Adobe Creative Cloud storage and new Lightroom CC for
$10/month. With 1TB you wouldn’t need any elaborate storage. I
currently
use the Photography plan which gives me 20GB.

Oh yes! So I can keep a full copy in the cloud? Cool. That will help a
lot...

I wanted to answer your question but I was hobbled by a non-disclosure
agreement. I've been a beta tester for Lightroom Classic CC (the
Lightroom that we've known and loved, but with many improvements) and
the brand new Lightroom CC, which is exclusively cloud-based. I was
expecting release this week, but didn't know which day.

Staying within the confines of my NDA, I'll tell you that Lightroom CC
will do what you want. I speak from the Mac and iPad Pro experience
(and it's a fantastic photo platform!). AFAIK (but I could be wrong),
Lightroom Mobile on iOS can't import directly from a card or camera;
the pics have to go into the Apple Photos app. An extra step, but no
big thing. From there they can be imported into Lightroom Mobile. They
are available for editing on the iPad and they automatically sync to Lr
Classic CC *and* the new Lightroom CC on your computer. In the case of
Lr Classic CC the photo goes onto your HD. With Lightroom CC it is also
in the cloud. I have both new programs -- Lightroom CC Classic and
Lightroom CC -- on my Macs.

I got my email from Apple this morning, and I have updated Lightroom CC 2015
to Lightroom Classic CC. I have also updated Photoshop CC, and I have
discovered that my Lightroom Mobile images are now directly accessible via
Photoshop.

Lightroom Classic CC has more powerful editing routines than Lightroom
CC or Lightroom Mobile.

I understand that LR CC will be updated to include many of the features of
Lightroom Classic CC.

Referring to Q1 in your original post, you cannot edit photos directly
from your card. You must import them into Lightroom Mobile from the
card or from wherever they are on your Android flash storage (I know
nothing of Android). And recall that they are also going to Lightroom
CC /and/ Lightroom Classic CC on your computer if you have both. If you
have only Lightroom CC they will be in the cloud, but a full-resolution
copy in raw format can be saved to your HD with a right-click.

Q2 is moot; you can insert as many SD cards as you wish and import the
photos into Lightroom Mobile as described above. The photos are in the
cloud and the SD card is now out of the picture and you may import
photos from other SD cards to your heart's content.

Of course, sync works the other way. Add a photo to Lightroom CC on
your computer and it appears in Lightroom Mobile. And in Lightroom
Classic CC. Add a photo in Lightroom Classic CC and with a single
keystroke ("b") it syncs to the cloud, appears in Lightroom CC, and in
Lightroom Mobile on your device(s). Touch "b" again and it is removed
from the cloud world but remains in your Lightroom Classic CC library.

Finally, Lightroom Mobile can use your mobile camera. The photo will go
to the cloud and appear in Lightroom CC /and/ Lightroom Classic CC. I
love it!

BTW, Lightroom CC and Lightroom Classic CC can be open and running on
your computer simultaneously.

Interesting.
Can LR CC and LR Classic CC share catalogues?

There is a lot of interoperability, there are many combinations of ways
to manipulate photos with the new Lightroom products. Read the stuff
that SD referenced. There is a learning curve, but one can start simply
and grow. Have fun!

Me? I've got to investigate the cost of Adobe's cloud storage. My
Lightroom catalogue is modest in size compared to that of a
professional, but it's still 1 GB in size for 20,000 photos. 2TB would
be good, if it's affordable.

I am a tad confused as in my Members offer Adobe tells me that I have the new
LR CC included in my Photography Plan with my current 20GB of cloud storage,
but I can get the entire 1TB package for $14.99/month. Yet in the offered
plans there is no $14.99/month grandfather offer, just the $19.99/month for
the added 1TB. Could you clarify.

Get a 27" iMac and an iPad Pro and you'll learn the meaning of bliss in
desktop and mobile computing.

Yup! I am thoughly enjoying my 10.5� 512GB iPad Pro, Apple Pencil, and
Smart keyboard.


The LR mobile forced me to upgrade to the iPhone 8 plus. I was going to
upgrade anyway, but i was trying to decide which one. The 8 plus is a
shade to big for the wireless charger in my car, but the 8 was too small
to do any work. Now it's the 8+, so I can work on photos while waiting
for Doc appointments.

--
PeterN