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Before taking the picture.. hmm
I am a total newbie to manual settings but I try.
right now I am thinking that I should first think what the ISO setting should be. then f stop and then shutter speed. if you walked into an empty apartment or house how would you determine the settings for your first pic? today for the first time I will be experimenting with EV. I think this will allow me to see out the window and at the same time not make the apartment seem so dark. JSM |
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Before taking the picture.. hmm
Just Shoot Me wrote:
I am a total newbie to manual settings but I try. right now I am thinking that I should first think what the ISO setting should be. then f stop and then shutter speed. if you walked into an empty apartment or house how would you determine the settings for your first pic? Assuming no tripod, shutter speed is the first descision. Then increase ISO if you need more DOF. If you have a tripod, forget ISO, consider the DOF you want, set the aperture & let the shutter land where it may. today for the first time I will be experimenting with EV. I think this will allow me to see out the window and at the same time not make the apartment seem so dark. EV is exposure compensation? You'll be able to brighten the room but the window will blow out so make 2 exposures & merge later. -- Paul Furman Photography http://edgehill.net Bay Natives Nursery http://www.baynatives.com |
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Before taking the picture.. hmm
Just Shoot Me wrote:
I am a total newbie to manual settings but I try. In my opinion you rarely need total manual settings and in 99% of cases they don't give you much advantage. right now I am thinking that I should first think what the ISO setting should be. then f stop and then shutter speed. I almost always leave the camera on "Program" mode (not "Scene mode", because you cannot adjust anything there). Let the camera select the defaults. Then I check the numbers and decide if I need to adjust some parameter like aperture to correct the DOF or shutter speed to emphazise or eliminate movement, etc. The "Program" mode will still ensure a proper exposure! And then adjust the EV if I want a special effect there. Aperture priority or shutter priority are nice if you take multiple photos in the same situation and you want to set limits to the one of those values. if you walked into an empty apartment or house how would you determine the settings for your first pic? Let the camera figure it out. Then adjust whatever parameter you think will result in a better picture. today for the first time I will be experimenting with EV. I think this will allow me to see out the window and at the same time not make the apartment seem so dark. Probably not. The contrast between inside and outside is usually way too large to have both areas exposed properly in a single shot, at least unless you use artificial lighting (flash, studio lights, ...) inside. Other option: take two photos, one with good exposure inside, the other with good exposure outside, and merge them in a photo editor. jue |
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Before taking the picture.. hmm
Just Shoot Me wrote:
I am a total newbie to manual settings but I try. right now I am thinking that I should first think what the ISO setting should be. then f stop and then shutter speed. if you walked into an empty apartment or house how would you determine the settings for your first pic? today for the first time I will be experimenting with EV. I think this will allow me to see out the window and at the same time not make the apartment seem so dark. Unless the window area is huge, there is often so much light difference as to require a bit of flash indoor to bring the apartment up to the exposure for the outside. Think in terms of composition including depth-of-field. Think in terms of image sharpness due to camera stability (tripod). Think in terms of subject motion (if any). Now re-think focal length, aperture setting (depth of field). re-think "motion freezing" (subject and need for tripod). How much light is there? Finally come to speed (shutter speed + subject motion) and thence required ISO. Reciprocity is three variables: film speed, shutter speed and aperture. Cheers, Alan -- -- r.p.e.35mm user resource: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpe35mmur.htm -- r.p.d.slr-systems: http://www.aliasimages.com/rpdslrsysur.htm -- [SI] gallery & rulz: http://www.pbase.com/shootin -- e-meil: Remove FreeLunch. |
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Before taking the picture.. hmm
"Jürgen Exner" wrote in message news:rtDAi.4377$Ay3.1671@trndny02... Just Shoot Me wrote: I am a total newbie to manual settings but I try. In my opinion you rarely need total manual settings and in 99% of cases they don't give you much advantage. right now I am thinking that I should first think what the ISO setting should be. then f stop and then shutter speed. I almost always leave the camera on "Program" mode (not "Scene mode", because you cannot adjust anything there). I read this just before I went out. Sounded great... I said.. IM going to do that. but found I could not adjust things in Program mode at least not like I am used to. after I do a bit of work I will read the manual on Program mode and see what I was doing wrong. thank you for the great tip and great post thank you.. JSM |
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Before taking the picture.. hmm
On Aug 27, 12:45 pm, "Just Shoot Me"
wrote: I am a total newbie to manual settings but I try. right now I am thinking that I should first think what the ISO setting should be. then f stop and then shutter speed. if you walked into an empty apartment or house how would you determine the settings for your first pic? today for the first time I will be experimenting with EV. I think this will allow me to see out the window and at the same time not make the apartment seem so dark. JSM I can't really comment on any "program" or "scenic" modes because I've never used them and have no idea how they work. My guess would be that they end up making a whole bunch of bad decisions for you. If you need to start somewhere, put your camera in shutter priority mode, often abbreviated Tv. Now spin your adjustment wheel or do whatever it is you do on your camera and set the shutter on 1/60th for indoor without a flash or 1/200 otherwise. Set your ISO to 400. Use 200 if you are outside on a bright day. Now your camera will take care of the rest, within reason. If you want to go "manual", and that's not nessarily a bad idea -- then use the same ISO and shutter setting. Start at your lowest aperature indoors -- probably something like f2.8 or f4 or possible f5.6. Now look through your viewfinder and there should be some sort of metering, possibly lights left and right of center. Otherwise, just take a picture, see what it looks like, and adjust accordingly. |
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Before taking the picture.. hmm
"Paul Furman" wrote in message ... Just Shoot Me wrote: I am a total newbie to manual settings but I try. right now I am thinking that I should first think what the ISO setting should be. then f stop and then shutter speed. if you walked into an empty apartment or house how would you determine the settings for your first pic? Assuming no tripod, shutter speed is the first descision. Then increase ISO if you need more DOF. at this point I am still using a tripod. when I get MY NEW CAMERA I will start experimenting no tripod with faster shutter speeds. I tried that before but found the pictures came to dark in order to stop a blur. I now know that apeture and ISO can help me out here also my photo editor. but right now a tripod makes it a bit easier for me. it is very good to finally talk to people about this stuff. I was lucky enough today to see someone using the newer rebel. he said it was his first dslr and very happy he made the change. but that was as far as it got. If you have a tripod, forget ISO, consider the DOF you want, set the aperture & let the shutter land where it may. for now the tripod works great for the window switch. tonight I will see what the help files say about merge . today for the first time I will be experimenting with EV. I think this will allow me to see out the window and at the same time not make the apartment seem so dark. EV is exposure compensation? You'll be able to brighten the room but the window will blow out so make 2 exposures & merge later. o i thought the EV would help brighten the shadows with out too much effect on the already light areas. Mege sounds like it is something I need to learn. I might need to spend the left over money on an upgrade to the real adobe photoshop. I know I have to atleast down load the trial to see what it has. 1 of the books I am reading does have a bit of a tutorial in it for adobe photoshop elements. I hope I have a chance tonight to do a side by side comparison. JSM -- Paul Furman Photography http://edgehill.net Bay Natives Nursery http://www.baynatives.com |
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Before taking the picture.. hmm
"Alan Browne" wrote in message ... Just Shoot Me wrote: I am a total newbie to manual settings but I try. right now I am thinking that I should first think what the ISO setting should be. then f stop and then shutter speed. if you walked into an empty apartment or house how would you determine the settings for your first pic? today for the first time I will be experimenting with EV. I think this will allow me to see out the window and at the same time not make the apartment seem so dark. Unless the window area is huge, there is often so much light difference as to require a bit of flash indoor to bring the apartment up to the exposure for the outside. I always thought there was something I was doing wrong or beyond my cameras ability. Think in terms of composition including depth-of-field. Think in terms of image sharpness due to camera stability (tripod). Think in terms of subject motion (if any). Alan I see I will have lots of thinking to do . I am finally at this stage were I can think of these things. I just used to keep trying different settings. there is also something on my camera that will let me take a burst of pictures at different exposures. I still have not tried that. I don't think MY NEW 40D is going to have it so why bother. Its time to do some thinking. Now its time to edit the pictures I have taken today. thank you very much JSM |
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Before taking the picture.. hmm
Pat wrote:
On Aug 27, 12:45 pm, "Just Shoot Me" wrote: I am a total newbie to manual settings but I try. right now I am thinking that I should first think what the ISO setting should be. then f stop and then shutter speed. if you walked into an empty apartment or house how would you determine the settings for your first pic? today for the first time I will be experimenting with EV. I think this will allow me to see out the window and at the same time not make the apartment seem so dark. I can't really comment on any "program" or "scenic" modes because I've never used them and have no idea how they work. My guess would be that they end up making a whole bunch of bad decisions for you. Well, those Scene (not scenic) modes are coming from compact cameras and they work reasonably well in maybe 80% of the typical cases for those cameras. They are e.g. Portrait, Landscape, Night, ... For the remaining 20% they do make bad decisions and even worse, the settings cannot be overruled in those modes. "Program" mode is totally different. It enables the camera to control exposure automatically, just like shutter or aperture priority modes, except that the camera will try to balance both, shutter and aperture. Details can usually be found in a graph in the operating manual. The big advantage compared to Scene modes is that in Program mode you can adjust either to match your artistic needs while still trusting the camera to automatically correct exposure as needed. jue |
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Before taking the picture.. hmm
I really wish my web site was up already.
While one of the places I took pictures turned out to be a waste of time. Everytime I look at the pictures I start to laugh. wall to wall clothes everyplace. no place to sit with out sitting on clothes. i guess i should be happy that there was nothing floating in the water. JSM |
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