Nikon blast - good news!

As you all know by now, Nikon have hit one out of the park by putting up
two new FF sensored bodies. This is great news for everyone as now
Canon has a most serious competitor in the pro machines.

Some or many will lament or torment over the comparatively low 12 Mpix
of these machines in the light of the 1 Ds Mk III from Canon. But all
those folks with the classic great glass such as the Nikkor 17-35 (eh
Matt?!) will rejoice to get their WA's back in full action.

Congratulations to Nikon and Nikon users!

(Oh, and for you DX lens owners, tough ****).

Cheers,
Alan.

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Alan Browne wrote:

As you all know by now, Nikon have hit one out of the park by putting up
two new FF sensored bodies. This is great news for everyone as now
Canon has a most serious competitor in the pro machines.

Oops... 1 FF machine. Sorry.


Some or many will lament or torment over the comparatively low 12 Mpix
of these machines in the light of the 1 Ds Mk III from Canon. But all
those folks with the classic great glass such as the Nikkor 17-35 (eh
Matt?!) will rejoice to get their WA's back in full action.

Congratulations to Nikon and Nikon users!

(Oh, and for you DX lens owners, tough ****).

Cheers,
Alan.



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On Aug 23, 7:29 pm, Alan Browne
wrote:
As you all know by now, Nikon have hit one out of the park by putting up
two new FF sensored bodies. This is great news for everyone as now
Canon has a most serious competitor in the pro machines.

Some or many will lament or torment over the comparatively low 12 Mpix
of these machines in the light of the 1 Ds Mk III from Canon. But all
those folks with the classic great glass such as the Nikkor 17-35 (eh
Matt?!) will rejoice to get their WA's back in full action.

Congratulations to Nikon and Nikon users!

(Oh, and for you DX lens owners, tough ****).

Cheers,
Alan.

Only to find out those old film lenses just do not cut the mustard (as
Canon found out) with FF SENSORS.
Get ready to scrap LOTS of old glass if you buy that D3.

RichA wrote:
On Aug 23, 7:29 pm, Alan Browne
wrote:
As you all know by now, Nikon have hit one out of the park by putting up
two new FF sensored bodies. This is great news for everyone as now
Canon has a most serious competitor in the pro machines.

Some or many will lament or torment over the comparatively low 12 Mpix
of these machines in the light of the 1 Ds Mk III from Canon. But all
those folks with the classic great glass such as the Nikkor 17-35 (eh
Matt?!) will rejoice to get their WA's back in full action.

Congratulations to Nikon and Nikon users!

(Oh, and for you DX lens owners, tough ****).

Cheers,
Alan.

Only to find out those old film lenses just do not cut the mustard (as
Canon found out) with FF SENSORS.
Get ready to scrap LOTS of old glass if you buy that D3.

You forget several things:

The FF performance of many is known by using Nikkor lenses
via eos adapters on Canon full-frame or Kodak dslr cameras
anyway.
The performance of the Nikkors - even the old ones - on the
Nikon D3 will be better than on the Canon or Kodak because
either in camera, or using Capture NX in pp raw, automatic
correction for lateral CAs is possible.
(The D300 has the same in-camera automatic lateral CA
correction)
The D3 is the sports / pj's cam "only" 12mp. A higher MP
full frame camera will come.

On Aug 23, 8:18 pm, frederick wrote:
RichA wrote:
On Aug 23, 7:29 pm, Alan Browne
wrote:
As you all know by now, Nikon have hit one out of the park by putting up
two new FF sensored bodies. This is great news for everyone as now
Canon has a most serious competitor in the pro machines.

Some or many will lament or torment over the comparatively low 12 Mpix
of these machines in the light of the 1 Ds Mk III from Canon. But all
those folks with the classic great glass such as the Nikkor 17-35 (eh
Matt?!) will rejoice to get their WA's back in full action.

Congratulations to Nikon and Nikon users!

(Oh, and for you DX lens owners, tough ****).

Cheers,
Alan.

Only to find out those old film lenses just do not cut the mustard (as
Canon found out) with FF SENSORS.
Get ready to scrap LOTS of old glass if you buy that D3.

You forget several things:

The FF performance of many is known by using Nikkor lenses
via eos adapters on Canon full-frame or Kodak dslr cameras
anyway.
The performance of the Nikkors - even the old ones - on the
Nikon D3 will be better than on the Canon or Kodak because
either in camera, or using Capture NX in pp raw, automatic
correction for lateral CAs is possible.
(The D300 has the same in-camera automatic lateral CA
correction)
The D3 is the sports / pj's cam "only" 12mp. A higher MP
full frame camera will come.

But remember the DX2's resolution? In some instances, almost as good
as Canon's 16 meg FF. What if this new one is even sharper?

On Aug 23, 8:06 pm, Rita Ä Berkowitz ritaberk2O04 @aol.com wrote:
RichA wrote:
Only to find out those old film lenses just do not cut the mustard (as
Canon found out) with FF SENSORS.
Get ready to scrap LOTS of old glass if you buy that D3.

NONSENSE! Canon users were forced to use the classic Nikkors of their FF
bodies. The D3 will not change this.

Rita

Start grabbing them now then, because the prices are about to jump!

RichA wrote:
On Aug 23, 8:18 pm, frederick wrote:
RichA wrote:
On Aug 23, 7:29 pm, Alan Browne
wrote:
As you all know by now, Nikon have hit one out of the park by putting up
two new FF sensored bodies. This is great news for everyone as now
Canon has a most serious competitor in the pro machines.
Some or many will lament or torment over the comparatively low 12 Mpix
of these machines in the light of the 1 Ds Mk III from Canon. But all
those folks with the classic great glass such as the Nikkor 17-35 (eh
Matt?!) will rejoice to get their WA's back in full action.
Congratulations to Nikon and Nikon users!
(Oh, and for you DX lens owners, tough ****).
Cheers,
Alan.
Only to find out those old film lenses just do not cut the mustard (as
Canon found out) with FF SENSORS.
Get ready to scrap LOTS of old glass if you buy that D3.
You forget several things:

The FF performance of many is known by using Nikkor lenses
via eos adapters on Canon full-frame or Kodak dslr cameras
anyway.
The performance of the Nikkors - even the old ones - on the
Nikon D3 will be better than on the Canon or Kodak because
either in camera, or using Capture NX in pp raw, automatic
correction for lateral CAs is possible.
(The D300 has the same in-camera automatic lateral CA
correction)
The D3 is the sports / pj's cam "only" 12mp. A higher MP
full frame camera will come.

But remember the DX2's resolution? In some instances, almost as good
as Canon's 16 meg FF. What if this new one is even sharper?


Why wouldn't you expect the d2x be "almost as good as
Canon's 16 meg ff" in the right conditions? So long as it's
not at an aperture where it's diffraction limited, so long
as the iso is low enough not to lose detail from NR, so long
as you're shooting in the sweet spot of the lens, then
12mp/16mp is nothing. In the right conditions, then the D2x
performed wonderfully. At high iso, the FF canons killed
it. Nikon's now killed the D2x/s stone dead. They just
replaced a $4k camera with a $1.8k one.

On Aug 23, 8:47 pm, frederick wrote:
RichA wrote:
On Aug 23, 8:18 pm, frederick wrote:
RichA wrote:
On Aug 23, 7:29 pm, Alan Browne
wrote:
As you all know by now, Nikon have hit one out of the park by putting up
two new FF sensored bodies. This is great news for everyone as now
Canon has a most serious competitor in the pro machines.
Some or many will lament or torment over the comparatively low 12 Mpix
of these machines in the light of the 1 Ds Mk III from Canon. But all
those folks with the classic great glass such as the Nikkor 17-35 (eh
Matt?!) will rejoice to get their WA's back in full action.
Congratulations to Nikon and Nikon users!
(Oh, and for you DX lens owners, tough ****).
Cheers,
Alan.
Only to find out those old film lenses just do not cut the mustard (as
Canon found out) with FF SENSORS.
Get ready to scrap LOTS of old glass if you buy that D3.
You forget several things:

The FF performance of many is known by using Nikkor lenses
via eos adapters on Canon full-frame or Kodak dslr cameras
anyway.
The performance of the Nikkors - even the old ones - on the
Nikon D3 will be better than on the Canon or Kodak because
either in camera, or using Capture NX in pp raw, automatic
correction for lateral CAs is possible.
(The D300 has the same in-camera automatic lateral CA
correction)
The D3 is the sports / pj's cam "only" 12mp. A higher MP
full frame camera will come.

But remember the DX2's resolution? In some instances, almost as good
as Canon's 16 meg FF. What if this new one is even sharper?

Why wouldn't you expect the d2x be "almost as good as
Canon's 16 meg ff" in the right conditions? So long as it's
not at an aperture where it's diffraction limited, so long
as the iso is low enough not to lose detail from NR, so long
as you're shooting in the sweet spot of the lens, then
12mp/16mp is nothing. In the right conditions, then the D2x
performed wonderfully. At high iso, the FF canons killed
it. Nikon's now killed the D2x/s stone dead. They just
replaced a $4k camera with a $1.8k one.

Well, all things being equal, 12 meg does not = 16 meg. However,
looking back on the tests of the D2X, it did match the Canon sometimes
when it came to resolution. In-part, I think, thanks to a weaker AA
filter.
It will be interesting to see if Nikon's new 12 meg is as sharp as the
D2X was in all circumstances. Camera companies often shift course in
mid-stream, such as what Panasonic did with it's P&Ss when it came to
noise versus resolution. Nikon (Olympus as well)are now concentrating
on controlling chroma noise rather than going after luminance noise as
much, because luminance noise isn't ugly.

RichA wrote:
On Aug 23, 8:47 pm, frederick wrote:
RichA wrote:
On Aug 23, 8:18 pm, frederick wrote:
RichA wrote:
On Aug 23, 7:29 pm, Alan Browne
wrote:
As you all know by now, Nikon have hit one out of the park by putting up
two new FF sensored bodies. This is great news for everyone as now
Canon has a most serious competitor in the pro machines.
Some or many will lament or torment over the comparatively low 12 Mpix
of these machines in the light of the 1 Ds Mk III from Canon. But all
those folks with the classic great glass such as the Nikkor 17-35 (eh
Matt?!) will rejoice to get their WA's back in full action.
Congratulations to Nikon and Nikon users!
(Oh, and for you DX lens owners, tough ****).
Cheers,
Alan.
Only to find out those old film lenses just do not cut the mustard (as
Canon found out) with FF SENSORS.
Get ready to scrap LOTS of old glass if you buy that D3.
You forget several things:
The FF performance of many is known by using Nikkor lenses
via eos adapters on Canon full-frame or Kodak dslr cameras
anyway.
The performance of the Nikkors - even the old ones - on the
Nikon D3 will be better than on the Canon or Kodak because
either in camera, or using Capture NX in pp raw, automatic
correction for lateral CAs is possible.
(The D300 has the same in-camera automatic lateral CA
correction)
The D3 is the sports / pj's cam "only" 12mp. A higher MP
full frame camera will come.
But remember the DX2's resolution? In some instances, almost as good
as Canon's 16 meg FF. What if this new one is even sharper?
Why wouldn't you expect the d2x be "almost as good as
Canon's 16 meg ff" in the right conditions? So long as it's
not at an aperture where it's diffraction limited, so long
as the iso is low enough not to lose detail from NR, so long
as you're shooting in the sweet spot of the lens, then
12mp/16mp is nothing. In the right conditions, then the D2x
performed wonderfully. At high iso, the FF canons killed
it. Nikon's now killed the D2x/s stone dead. They just
replaced a $4k camera with a $1.8k one.

Well, all things being equal, 12 meg does not = 16 meg.
Sort of true, but I'd defy you to tell the difference in a
print at any size between 12 and 16mp, unless it's a print
of a photo of a test chart.

"Rita Ä Berkowitz" ritaberk2O04 @aol.com wrote:
RichA wrote:

Only to find out those old film lenses just do not cut the mustard (as
Canon found out) with FF SENSORS.
Get ready to scrap LOTS of old glass if you buy that D3.

NONSENSE! Canon users were forced to use the classic Nikkors of their FF
bodies. The D3 will not change this.

Canon users found that the classic Nikons were no better than Canon glass.
The folks who can't figure out how to stop down to f/11 throw money at the
problem and use the Leica R19 and the Zeiss 21/2.8. The rest of us simply
get great images with the 17-40.

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan