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Old October 5th 04, 11:05 PM
John McWilliams
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Default Canon 50 mm lens

[Similar message had been posted in rec.digital, and one fine reply
received, but hope for more input]....

I have a limited opportunity to buy the 2.5 50 mm macro lens and
wondered if I'll regret it *other* than losing the speed of a 1.8 or
1.4. It'll be used on a Canon 20 D and/or 300 D and Elan IIe.

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(below from previous post, from
http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50)

Std. Lenses 50mm Optical Quality

Sigma AF 2.8 50mm Macro EX 4.65 (4) = outstanding!
(Micro-)Nikkor AF 2.8 60mm 4.63 (4) = outstanding!
Minolta AF 2.8 50mm Macro 4.35 (3) = excellent
Canon EF 2.5 50mm Macro 4.34 (4) = excellent
Nikkor AF 1.8 50mm 4.19 (4) = very-good
Pentax SMC FA 43mm f/1.9 Ltd. 4.17 (3) = very-good
Pentax SMC F 1.7 50mm 4.13 (3) = very-good
Nikkor AI-S 2.8 45mm 4.00 (2) = very-good
Nikkor AF 1.4 50mm 3.98 (4) = very-good
Canon EF 1.4 50mm USM 3.96 (5) = very-good
Canon EF 1.8 50mm II 3.91 (3) = very-good
Minolta AF 1.4 50mm 3.91 (4) = very-good
Canon EF 1.0 50mm L USM 3.64 (3) = good
Pentax SMC FA 2.8 50mm Macro 3.62 (2) = good
Minolta AF 1.7 50mm 3.19 (2) = average
Sigma AF 2.8 50mm Macro 2.69 (2) = sub-average
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Old October 5th 04, 11:24 PM
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Hi John,

While I don't have experience with either of the lenses you mention, I
wouldn't place too much faith in the ratings at photozone - as the site
notes, these are entirely subjective. Plus there's no controls to stop
people putting multiple entries against a lens to bias the results. Even if
this were not so, the ratings would be statistically unreliable until you
get large numbers of rating against the same lens and some form of control
to ensure different lenses are rated consistently.

Cheers


"John McWilliams" wrote in message
news:rUE8d.126528$wV.47500@attbi_s54...
[Similar message had been posted in rec.digital, and one fine reply
received, but hope for more input]....

I have a limited opportunity to buy the 2.5 50 mm macro lens and
wondered if I'll regret it *other* than losing the speed of a 1.8 or
1.4. It'll be used on a Canon 20 D and/or 300 D and Elan IIe.

--
John McWilliams


(below from previous post, from
http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50)

Std. Lenses 50mm Optical Quality

Sigma AF 2.8 50mm Macro EX 4.65 (4) = outstanding!
(Micro-)Nikkor AF 2.8 60mm 4.63 (4) = outstanding!
Minolta AF 2.8 50mm Macro 4.35 (3) = excellent
Canon EF 2.5 50mm Macro 4.34 (4) = excellent
Nikkor AF 1.8 50mm 4.19 (4) = very-good
Pentax SMC FA 43mm f/1.9 Ltd. 4.17 (3) = very-good
Pentax SMC F 1.7 50mm 4.13 (3) = very-good
Nikkor AI-S 2.8 45mm 4.00 (2) = very-good
Nikkor AF 1.4 50mm 3.98 (4) = very-good
Canon EF 1.4 50mm USM 3.96 (5) = very-good
Canon EF 1.8 50mm II 3.91 (3) = very-good
Minolta AF 1.4 50mm 3.91 (4) = very-good
Canon EF 1.0 50mm L USM 3.64 (3) = good
Pentax SMC FA 2.8 50mm Macro 3.62 (2) = good
Minolta AF 1.7 50mm 3.19 (2) = average
Sigma AF 2.8 50mm Macro 2.69 (2) = sub-average
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Old October 6th 04, 12:40 AM
John McWilliams
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macropod wrote:
Hi John,

While I don't have experience with either of the lenses you mention, I
wouldn't place too much faith in the ratings at photozone - as the site
notes, these are entirely subjective. Plus there's no controls to stop
people putting multiple entries against a lens to bias the results. Even if
this were not so, the ratings would be statistically unreliable until you
get large numbers of rating against the same lens and some form of control
to ensure different lenses are rated consistently.

Good point, and thanks. I guess it's off to dpreview etc, unless someone
has a better specific site that's got objective and professional reviews
of lenses.

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John McWilliams
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Old October 6th 04, 01:59 AM
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The 50 macro is one of their best.
Sharp even wide open. I compared
my 1.8 to the 50 macro and I had
to stop the 1.8 down one stop
to get close to the sharpness of
the 50 macro.
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Old October 6th 04, 02:04 AM
Ray Creveling
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The only problem I've had with using a macro at 50mm is the lack of working
distance. I'm not sure how the crop factor on the 10D/Rebel will effect
this. I can say that my 50 1.8 bailed me out when I had to shoot at ISO 3200
In a candlelit room the other night. the exposures would have been 1/15th of
a second or longer with my 28-70 F2.8. Also I would look at a 50mm F1.8 as a
general back up lens. at less than $100 new you can't go wrong

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"John McWilliams" wrote in message
news:rUE8d.126528$wV.47500@attbi_s54...
[Similar message had been posted in rec.digital, and one fine reply
received, but hope for more input]....

I have a limited opportunity to buy the 2.5 50 mm macro lens and wondered
if I'll regret it *other* than losing the speed of a 1.8 or 1.4. It'll be
used on a Canon 20 D and/or 300 D and Elan IIe.

--
John McWilliams


(below from previous post, from
http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50)

Std. Lenses 50mm Optical Quality

Sigma AF 2.8 50mm Macro EX 4.65 (4) = outstanding!
(Micro-)Nikkor AF 2.8 60mm 4.63 (4) = outstanding!
Minolta AF 2.8 50mm Macro 4.35 (3) = excellent
Canon EF 2.5 50mm Macro 4.34 (4) = excellent
Nikkor AF 1.8 50mm 4.19 (4) = very-good
Pentax SMC FA 43mm f/1.9 Ltd. 4.17 (3) = very-good
Pentax SMC F 1.7 50mm 4.13 (3) = very-good
Nikkor AI-S 2.8 45mm 4.00 (2) = very-good
Nikkor AF 1.4 50mm 3.98 (4) = very-good
Canon EF 1.4 50mm USM 3.96 (5) = very-good
Canon EF 1.8 50mm II 3.91 (3) = very-good
Minolta AF 1.4 50mm 3.91 (4) = very-good
Canon EF 1.0 50mm L USM 3.64 (3) = good
Pentax SMC FA 2.8 50mm Macro 3.62 (2) = good
Minolta AF 1.7 50mm 3.19 (2) = average
Sigma AF 2.8 50mm Macro 2.69 (2) = sub-average
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Old October 6th 04, 04:07 AM
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Kibo informs me that John McWilliams stated that:

[Similar message had been posted in rec.digital, and one fine reply
received, but hope for more input]....

I have a limited opportunity to buy the 2.5 50 mm macro lens and
wondered if I'll regret it *other* than losing the speed of a 1.8 or
1.4. It'll be used on a Canon 20 D and/or 300 D and Elan IIe.


I've heard lots of good things about that particular lens. It also has a
good reputation for general photography, as well as macro work.

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Old October 6th 04, 05:24 AM
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http://www.photodo.com/nav/prodindex.html

This is a good review site, and you might use it to temper the data from
www.photozone.de .

"John McWilliams" wrote in message
news:ThG8d.418744$8_6.50835@attbi_s04...
macropod wrote:
Hi John,

While I don't have experience with either of the lenses you mention, I
wouldn't place too much faith in the ratings at photozone - as the site
notes, these are entirely subjective. Plus there's no controls to stop
people putting multiple entries against a lens to bias the results. Even
if
this were not so, the ratings would be statistically unreliable until you
get large numbers of rating against the same lens and some form of
control
to ensure different lenses are rated consistently.

Good point, and thanks. I guess it's off to dpreview etc, unless someone
has a better specific site that's got objective and professional reviews
of lenses.

--

John McWilliams



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Old October 6th 04, 05:53 AM
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Hi John, I am following this thread since I am in the same quandry as
you, looking for info on this lens performance and the Canon macro
photo solutions fro my new 20D. Also, I did not see the other post in
the digital newsgroup, so I hope one of the 35mm people will answer.
There are many Canon experienced people here.

Joe




John McWilliams wrote in message news:rUE8d.126528$wV.47500@attbi_s54...
[Similar message had been posted in rec.digital, and one fine reply
received, but hope for more input]....

I have a limited opportunity to buy the 2.5 50 mm macro lens and
wondered if I'll regret it *other* than losing the speed of a 1.8 or
1.4. It'll be used on a Canon 20 D and/or 300 D and Elan IIe.

--
John McWilliams


(below from previous post, from
http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50)

Std. Lenses 50mm Optical Quality

Sigma AF 2.8 50mm Macro EX 4.65 (4) = outstanding!
(Micro-)Nikkor AF 2.8 60mm 4.63 (4) = outstanding!
Minolta AF 2.8 50mm Macro 4.35 (3) = excellent
Canon EF 2.5 50mm Macro 4.34 (4) = excellent
Nikkor AF 1.8 50mm 4.19 (4) = very-good
Pentax SMC FA 43mm f/1.9 Ltd. 4.17 (3) = very-good
Pentax SMC F 1.7 50mm 4.13 (3) = very-good
Nikkor AI-S 2.8 45mm 4.00 (2) = very-good
Nikkor AF 1.4 50mm 3.98 (4) = very-good
Canon EF 1.4 50mm USM 3.96 (5) = very-good
Canon EF 1.8 50mm II 3.91 (3) = very-good
Minolta AF 1.4 50mm 3.91 (4) = very-good
Canon EF 1.0 50mm L USM 3.64 (3) = good
Pentax SMC FA 2.8 50mm Macro 3.62 (2) = good
Minolta AF 1.7 50mm 3.19 (2) = average
Sigma AF 2.8 50mm Macro 2.69 (2) = sub-average
************* ******* ******

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Old October 6th 04, 04:43 PM
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John McWilliams wrote:
[Similar message had been posted in rec.digital, and one fine reply
received, but hope for more input]....

I have a limited opportunity to buy the 2.5 50 mm macro lens and
wondered if I'll regret it *other* than losing the speed of a 1.8 or
1.4. It'll be used on a Canon 20 D and/or 300 D and Elan IIe.

--
John McWilliams


(below from previous post, from
http://www.photozone.de/2Equipment/easytxt.htm#F50)

Std. Lenses 50mm Optical Quality

Sigma AF 2.8 50mm Macro EX 4.65 (4) = outstanding!
(Micro-)Nikkor AF 2.8 60mm 4.63 (4) = outstanding!
Minolta AF 2.8 50mm Macro 4.35 (3) = excellent
Canon EF 2.5 50mm Macro 4.34 (4) = excellent
Nikkor AF 1.8 50mm 4.19 (4) = very-good
Pentax SMC FA 43mm f/1.9 Ltd. 4.17 (3) = very-good
Pentax SMC F 1.7 50mm 4.13 (3) = very-good
Nikkor AI-S 2.8 45mm 4.00 (2) = very-good
Nikkor AF 1.4 50mm 3.98 (4) = very-good
Canon EF 1.4 50mm USM 3.96 (5) = very-good
Canon EF 1.8 50mm II 3.91 (3) = very-good
Minolta AF 1.4 50mm 3.91 (4) = very-good
Canon EF 1.0 50mm L USM 3.64 (3) = good
Pentax SMC FA 2.8 50mm Macro 3.62 (2) = good
Minolta AF 1.7 50mm 3.19 (2) = average
Sigma AF 2.8 50mm Macro 2.69 (2) = sub-average
************* ******* ******


After much research and debating, I bought the 50mm f/1.8 based on
optics and cost. It is on all accounts optically equal to the 50mm
f/1.4; mechanically, however, it is chep plastic. I have had mine for
two years with no problems, and some great quality images. The macro
opens up some interesting possibilities.
 




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