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  #11  
Old December 27th 17, 09:42 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
Bill W
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On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 08:26:18 +0100, android wrote:

On 2017-12-26 20:27:49 +0000, Bill W said:

I finally gave up on the cloning, and did a fresh install of Win 10 on
a new SSD. The point of this was to see if I could rejuvenate a 7 or 8
year old laptop, and to see how much better LR would work with only
the change from HDD to an SSD. The laptop is maxed out at 8 GB memory,
and has a 2.2 Ghz Intel CPU.

The main test I used was the spot removal function, which was usable,
but terribly crippled before the changes. After choosing a large-ish
target area, I would move the source area around to see how easily it
would follow the mouse movement. Before the SSD, it would take
forever. So the verdict is that the SSD made a huge difference, and is
definitely worth a try if you have a PC that seems a bit sluggish
working with photo software. Spot removal now works nearly as well as
on my far better spec'd desktop. It's like having a new laptop.

But... Windows still sucks. I think. Repeated crashes and forced
restarts, especially when installing software, but at other random
times, also. At the same time, this laptop is not supported for
anything past Win 7 - no chipset updates at all. So if you do have
some interest in trying the same thing, check to see what OS your
laptop supports. I think you can force Win 10 onto just about anything
that's not an antique, but you should expect problems. Mine seem to
have diminished considerably. Maybe Windows fixes itself. And if
you're happy with an earlier version of Windows, an SSD will almost
certainly be a huge improvement.


I have W10 on my Acer notebook, a c2d with 8GB RAM... It's unbelivable
how slow it is compared to my old Mac Mini, another c2d but with OSX
Snow Leopard and 3GB in use.


Mine is also a c2d. Stuff an SSD in yours. We can compare results.
  #12  
Old December 27th 17, 10:22 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
David Taylor
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Default Upgrade report - SSD & photo software

On 27/12/2017 04:10, Noons wrote:
[]
My Samsung laptop can't be updated to Win10, apparently the wifi chipset
it uses is not "compatible" with it, whatever that means for Microslop
nowadays.
The end result is it will stay on win7Pro-64 for the foreseeable future.
Â*Which will include an SSD for sure at some stage.

[]
Simple answer for anyone in a similar situation who /does/ want to
upgrade - get a Wi-Fi USB adapter! Amazon prices from $3 upwards.

--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
  #13  
Old December 27th 17, 10:27 AM posted to rec.photo.digital
David Taylor
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Default Upgrade report - SSD & photo software

On 27/12/2017 07:26, android wrote:
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I have W10 on my Acer notebook, a c2d with 8GB RAM... It's unbelivable
how slow it is compared to my old Mac Mini, another c2d but with OSX
Snow Leopard and 3GB in use.


Win-10 shouldn't be slow, especially with 8 GB memory. I would check
for any mis-configuration or unwanted processes (especially if it's a
vendor's Win-10 rather than a plain version from Microsoft without all
the junk-ware!). Use the Task Manager to see what's eating all the CPU,
memory, disk I/O etc.

--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
  #14  
Old December 27th 17, 12:29 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
android
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Default Upgrade report - SSD & photo software

On 2017-12-27 08:42:22 +0000, Bill W said:

On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 08:26:18 +0100, android wrote:

On 2017-12-26 20:27:49 +0000, Bill W said:

I finally gave up on the cloning, and did a fresh install of Win 10 on
a new SSD. The point of this was to see if I could rejuvenate a 7 or 8
year old laptop, and to see how much better LR would work with only
the change from HDD to an SSD. The laptop is maxed out at 8 GB memory,
and has a 2.2 Ghz Intel CPU.

The main test I used was the spot removal function, which was usable,
but terribly crippled before the changes. After choosing a large-ish
target area, I would move the source area around to see how easily it
would follow the mouse movement. Before the SSD, it would take
forever. So the verdict is that the SSD made a huge difference, and is
definitely worth a try if you have a PC that seems a bit sluggish
working with photo software. Spot removal now works nearly as well as
on my far better spec'd desktop. It's like having a new laptop.

But... Windows still sucks. I think. Repeated crashes and forced
restarts, especially when installing software, but at other random
times, also. At the same time, this laptop is not supported for
anything past Win 7 - no chipset updates at all. So if you do have
some interest in trying the same thing, check to see what OS your
laptop supports. I think you can force Win 10 onto just about anything
that's not an antique, but you should expect problems. Mine seem to
have diminished considerably. Maybe Windows fixes itself. And if
you're happy with an earlier version of Windows, an SSD will almost
certainly be a huge improvement.


I have W10 on my Acer notebook, a c2d with 8GB RAM... It's unbelivable
how slow it is compared to my old Mac Mini, another c2d but with OSX
Snow Leopard and 3GB in use.


Mine is also a c2d. Stuff an SSD in yours. We can compare results.


Won't happen! The CPU goes on like crazy with lots of Windows processes
craving its attention. I'll keep it for on the go stuff that can't be
done on the phone or needs Windows. Got me a better Mini that I could
stuff like a turkey with 10GB RAM and might put a SSD in that later if
I can train it to take a nap properly...
--
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  #15  
Old December 27th 17, 12:32 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
android
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Default Upgrade report - SSD & photo software

On 2017-12-27 09:27:02 +0000, David Taylor said:

On 27/12/2017 07:26, android wrote:
[]

I have W10 on my Acer notebook, a c2d with 8GB RAM... It's unbelivable
how slow it is compared to my old Mac Mini, another c2d but with OSX
Snow Leopard and 3GB in use.


Win-10 shouldn't be slow, especially with 8 GB memory. I would check
for any mis-configuration or unwanted processes (especially if it's a
vendor's Win-10 rather than a plain version from Microsoft without all
the junk-ware!). Use the Task Manager to see what's eating all the
CPU, memory, disk I/O etc.


I have. It's Windows mostly.
--
teleportation kills

  #16  
Old December 27th 17, 03:53 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Upgrade report - SSD & photo software

In article , David Taylor
wrote:

My Samsung laptop can't be updated to Win10, apparently the wifi chipset
it uses is not "compatible" with it, whatever that means for Microslop
nowadays.
The end result is it will stay on win7Pro-64 for the foreseeable future.
*Which will include an SSD for sure at some stage.


Simple answer for anyone in a similar situation who /does/ want to
upgrade - get a Wi-Fi USB adapter! Amazon prices from $3 upwards.


a $3 wifi adapter would be utter junk.

there's also the inconvenience of having the wifi adapter sticking out
of the laptop all the time and needing to remove it when transporting
the laptop.

it's also quite likely that the win7 wifi drivers will work.
  #17  
Old December 27th 17, 05:24 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
android
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Default Upgrade report - SSD & photo software

On 2017-12-27 14:53:12 +0000, nospam said:

In article , David Taylor
wrote:

My Samsung laptop can't be updated to Win10, apparently the wifi chipset
it uses is not "compatible" with it, whatever that means for Microslop
nowadays.
The end result is it will stay on win7Pro-64 for the foreseeable future.
*Which will include an SSD for sure at some stage.


Simple answer for anyone in a similar situation who /does/ want to
upgrade - get a Wi-Fi USB adapter! Amazon prices from $3 upwards.


a $3 wifi adapter would be utter junk.

there's also the inconvenience of having the wifi adapter sticking out
of the laptop all the time and needing to remove it when transporting
the laptop.

it's also quite likely that the win7 wifi drivers will work.


True. Throw some neto Linux dist into it and run it with Firefox,
OpenOffice.org and a mail client like Evolution:

https://www.cio.com/article/2875981/software/the-5-best-open-source-email-clients-for-linux.html#slide3


Grab pan2 for Usenet.
--
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  #18  
Old December 27th 17, 05:27 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
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Default Upgrade report - SSD & photo software

In article , android
wrote:

it's also quite likely that the win7 wifi drivers will work.


True. Throw some neto Linux dist into it and run it with Firefox,
OpenOffice.org and a mail client like Evolution:


and little else.
  #19  
Old December 27th 17, 05:47 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
Bill W
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Default Upgrade report - SSD & photo software

On Wed, 27 Dec 2017 12:32:38 +0100, android wrote:

On 2017-12-27 09:27:02 +0000, David Taylor said:

On 27/12/2017 07:26, android wrote:
[]

I have W10 on my Acer notebook, a c2d with 8GB RAM... It's unbelivable
how slow it is compared to my old Mac Mini, another c2d but with OSX
Snow Leopard and 3GB in use.


Win-10 shouldn't be slow, especially with 8 GB memory. I would check
for any mis-configuration or unwanted processes (especially if it's a
vendor's Win-10 rather than a plain version from Microsoft without all
the junk-ware!). Use the Task Manager to see what's eating all the
CPU, memory, disk I/O etc.


I have. It's Windows mostly.


Yes, that's the same thing I saw, but it wasn't accurate. As David
said, check for installed software from Acer. My problem was the
Toshiba software. It's not needed, and after I removed all of it, the
laptop was fine, even with the HDD which happened to have bad sectors.
The software I suspect was some backup or disk recovery software, and
one other that was also disk related. The SSD was icing on the cake,
and sped things up considerably.
  #20  
Old December 27th 17, 05:51 PM posted to rec.photo.digital
David Taylor
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Default Upgrade report - SSD & photo software

On 27/12/2017 16:24, android wrote:
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True. Throw some neto Linux dist into it and run it with Firefox,
OpenOffice.org and a mail client like Evolution:

https://www.cio.com/article/2875981/software/the-5-best-open-source-email-clients-for-linux.html#slide3


Grab pan2 for Usenet.


Not much use if the software the OP needs to run is Windows-based!
--
Cheers,
David
Web: http://www.satsignal.eu
 




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