Abuse and intimidation of London photographer

This is scary stuff - seriously, what has happened to a once proud and free
nation?


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Welcome To The Gulag wrote:
This is scary stuff - seriously, what has happened to a once proud and free
nation?


http://theonlinephotographer.typepad...nt-pictur.html


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I reckon I'll avoid London if I ever get to GB.

In article , John Ferguson
says...

I reckon I'll avoid London if I ever get to GB.

Same here - if this is how they treat you in the UK.
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On 2008-03-27 06:40:52 -0700, "Welcome To The Gulag" said:

This is scary stuff - seriously, what has happened to a once proud and free
nation?


http://theonlinephotographer.typepad...nt-pictur.html


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At WPPI in Las Vegas last week Dennis Orchard related a story about a
fellow London wedding photographer. Apparently the photographer was
posing the bride and attempting to turn her shoulders to an angle
toward the camera when he accidentally brushed one of her breasts. He
was charged with sexual assault, served six months in prison, and was
placed on a dangerous sexual offenders list for 10 years. He is to have
no contact with children under 18, meaning that his child portrait
business is destroyed.

If these stories are true, I would avoid visiting Great Britain until
the country re-establishes fundamental human rights.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

On 2008-03-27, Alfred Molon wrote:
In article , John Ferguson
says...

I reckon I'll avoid London if I ever get to GB.

Same here - if this is how they treat you in the UK.

Lived here all my life. Never been treated that way, even in London. But
I only go there if I absolutely have to. Awful place, surrounded by a
shell of even-more-awful places.

I find a great way to avoid attention when photographing in public
places is to wear a hi-viz jacket just like those two pretendy-plods in
the video.

--
Chris Savage Kiss me. Or would you rather live in a
Gateshead, UK land where the soap won't lather?
- Billy Bragg

At WPPI in Las Vegas last week Dennis Orchard related a story about a
fellow London wedding photographer. Apparently the photographer was
posing the bride and attempting to turn her shoulders to an angle toward
the camera when he accidentally brushed one of her breasts. He was
charged with sexual assault, served six months in prison, and was placed
on a dangerous sexual offenders list for 10 years. He is to have no
contact with children under 18, meaning that his child portrait business
is destroyed.



No professional photographer EVER touches the model. Voice direction only

"MellowFellow" schreef in bericht
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At WPPI in Las Vegas last week Dennis Orchard related a story about a
fellow London wedding photographer. Apparently the photographer was
posing the bride and attempting to turn her shoulders to an angle toward
the camera when he accidentally brushed one of her breasts. He was
charged with sexual assault, served six months in prison, and was placed
on a dangerous sexual offenders list for 10 years. He is to have no
contact with children under 18, meaning that his child portrait business
is destroyed.



No professional photographer EVER touches the model. Voice direction only

I have seen load of professional photographers touching the models.
So the above statement is clearly false.

By professional photographer, I mean a person who is making his or her
living by taking photographs and selling them, or offering his photographic
skills. E.g.:Taking baby pictures (like they do in malls) does require the
handling of the baby's.

Maybe your definition of professional photographer does exclude people who
touch models, but I think then you have a very flawed definition.

ben brugman

In article ,
says...
This is scary stuff - seriously, what has happened to a once proud and free
nation?


We can't afford proper policemen these days so we take people out of the
job centers, put them in uniforms, and call them Community Wardens. They
have, afaict, virtually no more legal powers than any other man in the
street. I was saddened when they were introduced but now that they're
here, the ones round our area are ok. Good source of local
gossip/scandal.

The pair in this video were community wardens. I have no doubt that if
their superiors saw this video they wouldn't be too happy.

Having said that, the rights of the individual are being eroded here,
just as they are just about everywhere else in the 1st world.

--
Alan LeHun

On 2008-03-27 10:46:16 -0700, MellowFellow said:



At WPPI in Las Vegas last week Dennis Orchard related a story about a
fellow London wedding photographer. Apparently the photographer was
posing the bride and attempting to turn her shoulders to an angle
toward the camera when he accidentally brushed one of her breasts. He
was charged with sexual assault, served six months in prison, and was
placed on a dangerous sexual offenders list for 10 years. He is to have
no contact with children under 18, meaning that his child portrait
business is destroyed.



No professional photographer EVER touches the model. Voice direction only

Nonsense.
--
Waddling Eagle
World Famous Flight Instructor

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Welcome To The Gulag wrote:
This is scary stuff - seriously, what has happened to a once proud
and free nation?

http://theonlinephotographer.typepad...grapher/2008/0
3/you-cant-pictur.html
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I reckon I'll avoid London if I ever get to GB.

London isn't the friendliest place on Earth, but it isn't all that bad!
The M25 ring road is best avoided unless you enjoy traffic jams.

The identification number of the officious half wit that accosted him is
clearly on the video so he should make a formal complaint. That guy
clearly needs retraining. "Community Support" officers are policing on
the cheap, poorly trained, badly equipped and paid a pittance. It is no
surprise that some of them once in uniform act like jumped up little
Hitlers - they are not representative of mainstream UK policing which is
generally by consent.

It is quite safe to ask a UK policeman the time. My university
supervisor had permanent scarring from his first encounter with the US
local police. And a historian from York was beaten to a pulp by a dozen
or more US plainclothes guys for jaywalking a couple of years back.

I have been stopped more than once for taking photos by anti-terrorist
police in the UK and they are professional and courteous provided that
you are reasonable with them. They are after all just doing their job
and if you are taking pictures that might be useful to a terrorist you
must expect to be challenged. I'd say security was a lot tighter in the
past during the major IRA bombing campaign against UK city centres than
it is now.

Regards,
--
Martin Brown

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