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Old September 21st 04, 11:17 PM
leo
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Default what's up with Nikon?

Canon announces their new products a month, or two at the most, before they
appear in the market. Nikon's doing the FUD more than half a year away, like
the D70 and now the D2X.


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Old September 22nd 04, 06:20 PM
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On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:44:13 +0000, Bill Hilton wrote:

If you have a product like the 1Ds that's currently shipping you
typically wouldn't announce the model replacing it (1Ds Mark II) until
you're ready to start shipping. Otherwise sales would dry up for the
existing model. Same deal with the 20D, they announce it and start
shipping product within a couple of weeks, and suddenly the 10D looks
like yesterday's news.

If you don't have a product in that slot (if you're not competing with
yourself) then you'd announce several months early since you aren't
canibalizing your sales and also you might keep some of your base users
from jumping ship to the competition. Minolta for example announced
their dSLR last February and we still don't know the ship date or price.

So Nikon has nothing to lose by announcing the D2X before they can
actually ship it, and a lot to gain since many pros have dumped Nikon
and moved to Canon because of the 1D Mark II and 1Ds. This should slow
down the defections since the D2X looks like a very sweet camera, based
on the specs and projected price.


One of the things I have noticed with Canon is that they can replace
models faster than you can get haircuts and none of their fanbase seems to
get ****ed with them (despite the fact that the newer camera renders their
older camera pretty worthless on the used market).

It doesn't bother me that Nikon take their time in putting out products.
Doesn't bother me at all.

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Old September 22nd 04, 11:55 PM
John McWilliams
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Dallas wrote:

It doesn't bother me that Nikon take their time in putting out products.
Doesn't bother me at all.

So, give it a rest, already.

You protest too much, waaay too much.

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Old September 23rd 04, 07:35 PM
Dallas
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:55:55 +0000, John McWilliams wrote:

Dallas wrote:

It doesn't bother me that Nikon take their time in putting out products.
Doesn't bother me at all.

So, give it a rest, already.

You protest too much, waaay too much.


Okay.

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Old September 23rd 04, 07:35 PM
Dallas
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On Wed, 22 Sep 2004 22:55:55 +0000, John McWilliams wrote:

Dallas wrote:

It doesn't bother me that Nikon take their time in putting out products.
Doesn't bother me at all.

So, give it a rest, already.

You protest too much, waaay too much.


Okay.

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Old September 23rd 04, 05:01 AM
Mark M
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"Dallas" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:44:13 +0000, Bill Hilton wrote:

If you have a product like the 1Ds that's currently shipping you
typically wouldn't announce the model replacing it (1Ds Mark II) until
you're ready to start shipping. Otherwise sales would dry up for the
existing model. Same deal with the 20D, they announce it and start
shipping product within a couple of weeks, and suddenly the 10D looks
like yesterday's news.

If you don't have a product in that slot (if you're not competing with
yourself) then you'd announce several months early since you aren't
canibalizing your sales and also you might keep some of your base users
from jumping ship to the competition. Minolta for example announced
their dSLR last February and we still don't know the ship date or price.

So Nikon has nothing to lose by announcing the D2X before they can
actually ship it, and a lot to gain since many pros have dumped Nikon
and moved to Canon because of the 1D Mark II and 1Ds. This should slow
down the defections since the D2X looks like a very sweet camera, based
on the specs and projected price.


One of the things I have noticed with Canon is that they can replace
models faster than you can get haircuts and none of their fanbase seems to
get ****ed with them (despite the fact that the newer camera renders their
older camera pretty worthless on the used market).


Not the case at all.
You can often sell discontinued models for top $$ on ebay.

It doesn't bother me that Nikon take their time in putting out products.
Doesn't bother me at all.


Keep telling yourself that...
"It doesn't bother me...It doesn't bother me...It doesn't...it
doesn't...grrrrrrr...it dos...grrr...n't!"



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Old September 23rd 04, 05:01 AM
Mark M
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"Dallas" wrote in message
news
On Tue, 21 Sep 2004 23:44:13 +0000, Bill Hilton wrote:

If you have a product like the 1Ds that's currently shipping you
typically wouldn't announce the model replacing it (1Ds Mark II) until
you're ready to start shipping. Otherwise sales would dry up for the
existing model. Same deal with the 20D, they announce it and start
shipping product within a couple of weeks, and suddenly the 10D looks
like yesterday's news.

If you don't have a product in that slot (if you're not competing with
yourself) then you'd announce several months early since you aren't
canibalizing your sales and also you might keep some of your base users
from jumping ship to the competition. Minolta for example announced
their dSLR last February and we still don't know the ship date or price.

So Nikon has nothing to lose by announcing the D2X before they can
actually ship it, and a lot to gain since many pros have dumped Nikon
and moved to Canon because of the 1D Mark II and 1Ds. This should slow
down the defections since the D2X looks like a very sweet camera, based
on the specs and projected price.


One of the things I have noticed with Canon is that they can replace
models faster than you can get haircuts and none of their fanbase seems to
get ****ed with them (despite the fact that the newer camera renders their
older camera pretty worthless on the used market).


Not the case at all.
You can often sell discontinued models for top $$ on ebay.

It doesn't bother me that Nikon take their time in putting out products.
Doesn't bother me at all.


Keep telling yourself that...
"It doesn't bother me...It doesn't bother me...It doesn't...it
doesn't...grrrrrrr...it dos...grrr...n't!"



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Old September 23rd 04, 01:56 AM
Annika1980
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If you don't have a product in that slot (if you're not competing with
yourself) then you'd announce several months early since you aren't
canibalizing your sales and also you might keep some of your base users from
jumping ship to the competition. Minolta for example announced their dSLR
last
February and we still don't know the ship date or price.


I've been wondering something. How long will it be before we start seeing the
words "Minolta" and "vaporware" in the same posts?




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Old September 23rd 04, 05:02 AM
Mark M
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"Annika1980" wrote in message
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If you don't have a product in that slot (if you're not competing with
yourself) then you'd announce several months early since you aren't
canibalizing your sales and also you might keep some of your base users

from
jumping ship to the competition. Minolta for example announced their

dSLR
last
February and we still don't know the ship date or price.


I've been wondering something. How long will it be before we start seeing

the
words "Minolta" and "vaporware" in the same posts?


You just answreed your own question...


 




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