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Users of Both Canon and Nikon DSLR
This question is directed at those who have used both Canon and Nikon
DSLR. Do you notice any difference in color rendition between the two cameras? Do you notice any difference in image quality (11x14 and 13x19 enlargements) when using equalavent lenses? Do you have any preferences and what are they and why? |
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Users of Both Canon and Nikon DSLR
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measekite wrote: This question is directed at those who have used both Canon and Nikon DSLR. Do you notice any difference in color rendition between the two cameras? Do you notice any difference in image quality (11x14 and 13x19 enlargements) when using equalavent lenses? Do you have any preferences and what are they and why? Check http://www.dpreview.com |
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Users of Both Canon and Nikon DSLR
measekite wrote:
This question is directed at those who have used both Canon and Nikon DSLR. Do you notice any difference in color rendition between the two cameras? Do you notice any difference in image quality (11x14 and 13x19 enlargements) when using equalavent lenses? Do you have any preferences and what are they and why? I use my digital cameras mostly for nature photography and in the past ten years or so I know of several "big name" nature photographers who switched from Nikon to Canon, usually taking a big loss to dump their Nikon gear. I don't know of a single Canon pro who dumped his Canon gear for Nikon, fwiw. Several dumped Nikon because they were slow to bring out VR lenses, especially for the long tele-photos (they still don't have this), others because they felt Canon was ahead with digital bodies, especially full-frame, and likely to stay ahead because Canon makes their own sensors and has more money for research and development. I used to have a list of a dozen or so people who switched but can't find it at the moment ... however off the top of my head here are a few of them who sold off their Nikon gear and bought Canon ... Art Wolfe (switched partly for IS) Jim Brandenberg (switched for the full frame sensor digital, may have switched back when Nikon brought out the D2x, not sure) Erwin and Peggy Bauer Leonard Lee Rue Leonard Lee Rue Jr. Joe and Mary Ann McDonald (they had a long list of reasons for switching, including faster AF and IS, I can probably find their list if you need to see it) Tom Vezo (famous bird photographer) Ralph Lee Hopkins (switched for faster AF and IS) Linde Waidhofer As I said I don't know of a single well-known nature photographer who switched the other way, from Canon to Nikon. From your earlier posts it looks like you're interested in the mid-range lenses and bodies and in this range there's probably not as much difference. Bill |
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Users of Both Canon and Nikon DSLR
If you shoot raw with either camera color is what you make it, as it should
be. Full frame vs APS sensor, Canon vs Nikon glass, 8 bit vs 16 bit color, how many angels can sit on the head of a pin and is Ford better than Chevy? |
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Users of Both Canon and Nikon DSLR
measekite wrote: This question is directed at those who have used both Canon and Nikon DSLR. Do you notice any difference in color rendition between the two cameras? Do you notice any difference in image quality (11x14 and 13x19 enlargements) when using equalavent lenses? Do you have any preferences and what are they and why? Yes there is a difference in color rendition. If you have 2 people shooting the same event, such as a wedding, you want matching models if possible, but at least matching brands, so the pics are consistant. Otherwise it will be noticable that 2 cameras were used. |
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"Bill Hilton" wrote: I know of several "big name" nature photographers who switched from Nikon to Canon, usually taking a big loss to dump their Nikon gear. I don't know of a single Canon pro who dumped his Canon gear for Nikon, fwiw. off the top of my head here are a few of them who sold off their Nikon gear and bought Canon ... Art Wolfe (switched partly for IS) Jim Brandenberg (switched for the full frame sensor digital, may have switched back when Nikon brought out the D2x, not sure) Erwin and Peggy Bauer Leonard Lee Rue Leonard Lee Rue Jr. Joe and Mary Ann McDonald (they had a long list of reasons for switching, including faster AF and IS, I can probably find their list if you need to see it) Tom Vezo (famous bird photographer) Ralph Lee Hopkins (switched for faster AF and IS) Linde Waidhofer From your earlier posts it looks like you're interested in the mid-range lenses and bodies and in this range there's probably not as much difference. Bill THO wrote: Bill, your post doesn't in any way answer the OP's question. Sorry that I didn't live up to this newsgroup's high standards ... Why did you write it? Because I thought the poster was comparing Nikon to Canon and might find it useful to learn that so many full time pros have dumped Nikon and bought Canon even though they take a financial bath to do so. And in the field I mentioned I don't know of a single pro who made the reverse journey, selling Canon to buy Nikon. Perhaps the original poster would find that of interest. As for his question about color rendition, bmog already answered it eloquently ... it's not an issue for most of us if you are shooting RAW. Bill |
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"Bill Hilton" wrote in message ps.com... I know of several "big name" nature photographers who switched from Nikon to Canon, usually taking a big loss to dump their Nikon gear. I don't know of a single Canon pro who dumped his Canon gear for Nikon, fwiw. Some of the people you listed shoot with Nikon. Jim Brandenberg (switched for the full frame sensor digital, may have switched back when Nikon brought out the D2x, not sure) Switched back to Nikon. Erwin and Peggy Bauer Sadly both died two years ago - not applicable since they may or may not have switched back in those couple of years. Leonard Lee Rue Leonard Lee Rue Jr. Not sure. Tom Vezo (famous bird photographer) Another who switched from Canon to Nikon. Because I thought the poster was comparing Nikon to Canon and might find it useful to learn that so many full time pros have dumped Nikon and bought Canon even though they take a financial bath to do so. And in the field I mentioned I don't know of a single pro who made the reverse journey, selling Canon to buy Nikon. Perhaps the original poster would find that of interest. Not knowing anyone who has switched the other way doesn't mean anything. That's like saying you haven't seen a squirrel fall out of a tree so that must be proof that squirrels never fall. :-) Besides, while it might be of passing interest, unless full frame sensor is required it's not really relevant. Nikon performs as well as Canon, and vice-versa. To belittle either camera system for personal bias is counter-productive, and does not help people entering the DSLR market. |
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"Bill Hilton" wrote in message I know of several "big name" nature photographers who switched from Nikon to Canon, usually taking a big loss to dump their Nikon gear. I don't know of a single Canon pro who dumped his Canon gear for Nikon, fwiw. Bill wrote: Some of the people you listed shoot with Nikon. If you can tell me which ones and give a link indicating you are right I'll remove them from my list . Jim Brandenberg (switched for the full frame sensor digital, may have switched back when Nikon brought out the D2x, not sure) Switched back to Nikon. The way I heard the story he did the first ever digital camera article for "National Geographic" using a Nikon, I think the 2.7 Mpixel model but not sure ... for sure it was one of the 6 megapixel models. He liked digital but felt the Nikon bodies available at the time didn't have enough pixels, so for a while he experimented with the Canon 1Ds, an 11 Mpixel full-frame camera. At the time Nikon had nothing over 6 Mpixels. He never actually dumped all his Nikon gear, just temporarily used Canons while waiting for Nikon to bring out something with more pixels, which they did for the pro market with the D2x. I never heard if he went over to the D2x but it wouldn't surprise me if he did, so he probably doesn't belong on the list. Erwin and Peggy Bauer Sadly both died two years ago - not applicable since they may or may not have switched back in those couple of years I met them a couple of years ago at Ding Darling NWR on Sanibel and we photographed roseate spoonbills together for an afternoon. By chance I had read many of his "Outdoor Life" magazine articles as a kid and was about the same age as his son Bob, and I even remembered some of the trips in his articles, so we got along well and he invited my wife and I to stop by his home on the Olympic penninsula in Washington when in the area. He was shooting a Canon 600 f/4 L IS and Peggy had I think a 500 f/4 L IS ... at some point I asked him why he had switched to Canon since I knew he was a long-time Nikon user and he said because of IS. So he stays on the list ... Leonard Lee Rue - Leonard Lee Rue Jr. Not sure. Well I'm sure they shoot Canon ... I've bumped into them at Yellowstone once and several times in Alaska (five times at Denali, twice at Katmai) ... twice Len Jr. stayed at the same lodge as us in Alaska and we've talked to them several times ... once we were shooting a bull moose near a kettle pond at Denali and while waiting around I asked Jr. when he had switched to Canon, since the cover of their catalog showed them with black lenses ... he said they dropped Nikon several years ago because Nikon was slow to bring out new products, specifically saying that when the 600 f/4 lenses first came out that was the final straw because Nikon was late and he felt he had to switch to Canon to stay competitive. Last time I saw him was 13 months ago at Katmai and he's still shooting Canon ... the Rues stay on the list. Tom Vezo (famous bird photographer) Another who switched from Canon to Nikon. Do you have a source for this statement? If so I'll take him off my list ... I don't know Vezo, though he lives fairly close, about 3 hours down the freeway, so I have no first-hand knowledge or conversations with him. But the way I heard the story is that he shot Nikon for 30 years and then in Sept 2003 he finally sold off his Nikons and switched to Canon. He said he did it because ""As far as AF is concerned, the Canon stuff blew Nikon away" So what you are saying is that he dumped about $30,000 worth of Nikon gear three years ago and bought $25,000 worth of high-end Canon gear, then decided to dump Canon 3 years later? If you have a source for this I'd like to see it and I'll take him off my list, but I really doubt this is true ... here's the source for his Sept 2003 switchover .... http://www.birdsasart.com/bn114.htm and scroll down to "well knock me over with a feather" Not knowing anyone who has switched the other way doesn't mean anything. That's like saying you haven't seen a squirrel fall out of a tree so that must be proof that squirrels never fall. Well this sounds like a squirrelly argument to me ... all I know is that it seems to be a one-way street, with many big name guys taking the wrenching step of selling off Nikon gear (at a financial loss) and spending big bucks to move to Canon. As I've said I don't know a single long-term Canon guy who made a reverse move to Nikon the past 10 years or so. If you aren't impressed by the numbers then look at the sidelines of major sporting events and see how many Big White Lenses you see compared to the black Nikons ... fourty years ago Nikon supposedly had 90% of this market and now they probably have 20% of it, if that. The trend is pretty clear. Besides, while it might be of passing interest, unless full frame sensor is required it's not really relevant. Nikon performs as well as Canon, and vice-versa. I would agree with this for the consumer market but at the high end market for sports and wildlife photographers it's clear that Canon is ahead because of IS in the 500 and 600 f/4 lenses (Nikon hasn't been able to migrate VR to this class lens yet) and because of the full frame bodies. To belittle either camera system for personal bias is counter-productive I don't have a personal bias (well, maybe a little) and I'm not "belittling" Nikon. The D2x is a fine camera and the 200-400 f/4 VR is a lens that Canon lacks, as I've said on many occasions. But I gave facts to support what I said. Other than pointing out that Brandenberg's defection was temporary until Nikon brought out higher pixel count bodies you haven't provided any facts. The original poster asked for opinions from "Users of Both Canon and Nikon DSLR" ... the people I mention all have extensive experience with Nikons and ended up switching to Canons. Bill |
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Users of Both Canon and Nikon DSLR
Bill Hilton wrote:
[...] If you aren't impressed by the numbers then look at the sidelines of major sporting events and see how many Big White Lenses you see compared to the black Nikons ... fourty years ago Nikon supposedly had 90% of this market and now they probably have 20% of it, if that. The trend is pretty clear. Besides, while it might be of passing interest, unless full frame sensor is required it's not really relevant. Nikon performs as well as Canon, and vice-versa. I would agree with this for the consumer market but at the high end market for sports and wildlife photographers it's clear that Canon is ahead because of IS in the 500 and 600 f/4 lenses (Nikon hasn't been able to migrate VR to this class lens yet) and because of the full frame bodies. [...] I'm a Canon user and yet I think this trend is worrisome. I think it is really important for Canon to have serious competition. So I hope that Nikon gets its act together quickly. There is certainly room for two top camera manufacturers. ---- Paul J. Gans |
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