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Old October 16th 05, 10:52 PM
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Don't get me started on the topic of Canadian healthcare. It is nowhere
near anything what it is supposed to be: Hospitals are overcrouded!
Service is C---! Nurses are overworked! (I know, I am one!) You want
true universality? Then we should include Optometry, Dentistry and
Pharmacy services; but our government is too stingy to spend any DECENT
amount of monies where they should! What does Mr. Martin do with this
SURPLUS we've been running since he was Minister of Finance? Hell, true
Universality: Take healthcare out of the Provinces' jurisdiction and
make it exclusively a federal jurisdiction so that ALL provinces get
the same services. Right now the ones with bigger voices (Quebec and
Ontario) seem to get the "Lions' Share".

Sorry, Just had to rant.

Jennifer in BC.

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Old October 16th 05, 10:56 PM
Scott Schuckert
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In article , ian
lincoln wrote:

I have a sneaking suspicion americans pay a lot in dental fees.


Uh, yeah. Fortunately I have good teeth, but the first dentist I
mentioned is into my ladyfriend for about $50,000 over the last 4
years.
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Old October 16th 05, 11:27 PM
William Graham
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Don't get me started on the topic of Canadian healthcare. It is nowhere
near anything what it is supposed to be: Hospitals are overcrouded!
Service is C---! Nurses are overworked! (I know, I am one!) You want
true universality? Then we should include Optometry, Dentistry and
Pharmacy services; but our government is too stingy to spend any DECENT
amount of monies where they should! What does Mr. Martin do with this
SURPLUS we've been running since he was Minister of Finance? Hell, true
Universality: Take healthcare out of the Provinces' jurisdiction and
make it exclusively a federal jurisdiction so that ALL provinces get
the same services. Right now the ones with bigger voices (Quebec and
Ontario) seem to get the "Lions' Share".

Sorry, Just had to rant.

Jennifer in BC.

Why don't you consider getting it out of the government's hands altogether,
and making it a competitive, private enterprise business? If you don't like
the services provided by one hospital/HMO, then you can go to another, and
give your money to the people who do the job best, just like you do when you
buy groceries or clothing, or automobile insurance.
Not that that's the way it is here in the US.....Our health services
have been screwed up by socialism just as bad as yours have. For some
reason, people think, "important" things should be handled by their
governments. They never seem to get the message that anything the government
touches gets destroyed by the inefficiency that comes with lack of
competition, and guaranteed permanent employment no matter how badly you do
your job.
End of my, "rant".


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Old October 17th 05, 03:45 AM
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Jennifer,

I sympathize with you on your frustration on your job; my sister-in-law
is a nurse in Ottawa and I hear her complain about the shortages
constantly.

However, I must mention that our healthcare system, with all its
faults, has one advantage we cannot take for granted: Should anyone of
us have a serious accident which would cause us to be hospitalized, our
healthcare system pays for our stay, our Doctors, our Therapists, our
Nurses, our medications while in hospital. I cannot imagine the cost I
would have had to incure when I was involved in a highway accident last
winter and was in the hospital for 3 weeks.

Jennifer, yours is a wonderful job.

RobGN

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Old October 17th 05, 05:10 AM
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Jennifer,

I sympathize with you on your frustration on your job; my sister-in-law
is a nurse in Ottawa and I hear her complain about the shortages
constantly.

However, I must mention that our healthcare system, with all its
faults, has one advantage we cannot take for granted: Should anyone of
us have a serious accident which would cause us to be hospitalized, our
healthcare system pays for our stay, our Doctors, our Therapists, our
Nurses, our medications while in hospital. I cannot imagine the cost I
would have had to incure when I was involved in a highway accident last
winter and was in the hospital for 3 weeks.

Jennifer, yours is a wonderful job.

RobGN


Gotta agree with you there, but the system is in serious need of a major
overhaul. Sure would be nice if opthalmology / optometry, dentistry and
pharmaceutical drugs were covered under the healthcare plan, but I don't
know of anywhere in the world where that exists. Even private insurance
plans, most only cover up to 90%, providing you pay the extra premiums (or
your union has negociated a really good deal).

~Robert C.


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Old October 17th 05, 03:02 PM
Scott Schuckert
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In article .com,
RobGN wrote:

However, I must mention that our healthcare system, with all its
faults, has one advantage we cannot take for granted: Should anyone of
us have a serious accident which would cause us to be hospitalized, our
healthcare system pays for our stay, our Doctors, our Therapists, our
Nurses, our medications while in hospital. I cannot imagine the cost I
would have had to incure when I was involved in a highway accident last
winter and was in the hospital for 3 weeks.


A few years ago, a friend of mine was hit by a bus while crossing the
street in Denmark. It was probably even his fault; no one asked or
cared. They scooped him up, took him to the hospital, and fixed him.

As he tells it, there was almost no paperwork - they only asked his
name and address so they could let his family know where he was. If
government is going to run healthcare, THAT'S how it should work. Of
course, they have a 50% income tax to pay for it - but I'm told it's
the ONLY tax, so it's probably equivalent to the total tax load we have
in the US.

IMHO, our biggest problem with our current system in the states is the
insurance industry. Aside from the incredible cost of the paperwork to
track it all, there's no reason to find ways to make it affordable -
the consumer is never really faced with the cost. My fathers
(unsucessful) cancer treatment was over half a million dollars! If we
routinely charge more for services than ANYONE could pay, it can only
come crashing down on us eventually.
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Old October 17th 05, 03:24 PM
Paul Bielec
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Scott Schuckert wrote:

In article .com,
RobGN wrote:


However, I must mention that our healthcare system, with all its
faults, has one advantage we cannot take for granted: Should anyone of
us have a serious accident which would cause us to be hospitalized, our
healthcare system pays for our stay, our Doctors, our Therapists, our
Nurses, our medications while in hospital. I cannot imagine the cost I
would have had to incure when I was involved in a highway accident last
winter and was in the hospital for 3 weeks.



A few years ago, a friend of mine was hit by a bus while crossing the
street in Denmark. It was probably even his fault; no one asked or
cared. They scooped him up, took him to the hospital, and fixed him.

As he tells it, there was almost no paperwork - they only asked his
name and address so they could let his family know where he was. If
government is going to run healthcare, THAT'S how it should work. Of
course, they have a 50% income tax to pay for it - but I'm told it's
the ONLY tax, so it's probably equivalent to the total tax load we have
in the US.

IMHO, our biggest problem with our current system in the states is the
insurance industry. Aside from the incredible cost of the paperwork to
track it all, there's no reason to find ways to make it affordable -
the consumer is never really faced with the cost. My fathers
(unsucessful) cancer treatment was over half a million dollars! If we
routinely charge more for services than ANYONE could pay, it can only
come crashing down on us eventually.


In Quebec, we do have the public healthcare system. And we do pay the
highest taxes in North America. If the service was good, it wouldn't be
a problem. But the service is crap. People are actually dying while on
waiting list for a surgery. The systems is so badly administrated that
it is just useless to put any more money into it. On top of that, we
probably have the highest union rate in North America as well and, of
course, all public sector workers are unionized.
Result, if you're sick you better have good contacts to bypass the few
months waiting list to see a specialist...
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Old October 17th 05, 03:39 PM
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Jennifer, yours is a wonderful job.


Thank-You.

J.

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Old October 17th 05, 04:16 PM
Neil Harrington
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"Scott Schuckert" wrote in message
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[ . . . ]

A few years ago, a friend of mine was hit by a bus while crossing the
street in Denmark. It was probably even his fault; no one asked or
cared. They scooped him up, took him to the hospital, and fixed him.

As he tells it, there was almost no paperwork - they only asked his
name and address so they could let his family know where he was. If
government is going to run healthcare, THAT'S how it should work. Of
course, they have a 50% income tax to pay for it - but I'm told it's
the ONLY tax, so it's probably equivalent to the total tax load we have
in the US.


I doubt it's their ONLY tax. No property taxes, sales (or value added)
taxes?



IMHO, our biggest problem with our current system in the states is the
insurance industry. Aside from the incredible cost of the paperwork to
track it all, there's no reason to find ways to make it affordable -
the consumer is never really faced with the cost.


You've sure got that right, though I wouldn't blame it all on the insurance
industry. Like any other business they're in it to make money. Government
passes the laws, sets the rules, creates the environment. The insurance
industry only works within that environment to maximize profits, which is
exactly what the shareholders expect them to do.

The problem now is that you *have* to have the insurance or you really get
it stuck to you. Physicians (and to a lesser degree, dentists) bill
outrageous fees, which are radically adjusted downward by Medicare and/or
insurance companies, which adjustments the practitioner has to accept--or
lose the business the insured patients bring him. If the patient *doesn't*
have insurance he gets stuck with those inflated fees, and has no choice in
the matter since any other practitioner will likely be just as overpriced.

Neil


 




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