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Old March 1st 11, 03:06 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
R. Mark Clayton
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Default What plastic did the the nation's premiere fighter aircraft


"Rich" wrote in message
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On Feb 27, 2:00 pm, Bruce wrote:
RichA wrote:

Costly corrosion problems on the F-22 caused by stealth materials and
coatings have been addressed on the F-35, but risks remain, concludes
a report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office.


SNIP

That's the trouble with metal. It corrodes.

It would have been far better to make the aircraft out of composite
materials, otherwise known as "plastic".


Really? B-52's flew for 50 years. Metal. F-4s, metal decades of
use, F-16s, F-14s, F-15s, F-18s, C5s, etc, etc. Plastic did it to
metal and if plastic was indeed a suitable material to use for 100% of
the plane's construction, they might use it. But it isn't.

Various materials have been used to make aeroplanes: -

Wood - e.g. De Haviland Mosquito
Aluminium - most recent civil and military aircraft
Stainless Steel - English Electric Lightning (fighter and interceptor)
Titanium - Lockheed SR71
Plastic - Boeing 787

In fact most of these and magnesium have been made to make cameras too.

The only material unlikely to be affected by corrosion is gold, but for a
number of reasons this is unsuitable for aviation use or to make cameras.

BTW do the F22 and F35 come with a camera built in?


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Old March 1st 11, 06:14 PM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Default What plastic did the the nation's premiere fighter aircraft

On 2011-03-01 06:06:30 -0800, "R. Mark Clayton"
said:

Le Snip

BTW do the F22 and F35 come with a camera built in?


Several.
A gun camera, and several methods of recording other data images as
well as missile targeting events.


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Savageduck

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Old March 2nd 11, 01:23 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default What plastic did the the nation's premiere fighter aircraft

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:06:30 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:


"Rich" wrote in message
...
On Feb 27, 2:00 pm, Bruce wrote:
RichA wrote:

Costly corrosion problems on the F-22 caused by stealth materials and
coatings have been addressed on the F-35, but risks remain, concludes
a report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office.


SNIP

That's the trouble with metal. It corrodes.

It would have been far better to make the aircraft out of composite
materials, otherwise known as "plastic".


Really? B-52's flew for 50 years. Metal. F-4s, metal decades of
use, F-16s, F-14s, F-15s, F-18s, C5s, etc, etc.


All of these aircraft have ongoing corrosion problems.

Plastic did it to metal and if plastic was indeed a suitable material to use for 100% of
the plane's construction, they might use it.
But it isn't.


And it never will be, but the percentage is getting higher and higher.

Various materials have been used to make aeroplanes: -

Wood - e.g. De Haviland Mosquito
Aluminium - most recent civil and military aircraft
Stainless Steel - English Electric Lightning (fighter and interceptor)
Titanium - Lockheed SR71
Plastic - Boeing 787

In fact most of these and magnesium have been made to make cameras too.

The only material unlikely to be affected by corrosion is gold, but for a
number of reasons this is unsuitable for aviation use or to make cameras.

BTW do the F22 and F35 come with a camera built in?


Regards,

Eric Stevens
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Old March 2nd 11, 03:23 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
PeterN
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Default What plastic did the the nation's premiere fighter aircraft

On 3/1/2011 9:06 AM, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Feb 27, 2:00 pm, wrote:
wrote:

Costly corrosion problems on the F-22 caused by stealth materials and
coatings have been addressed on the F-35, but risks remain, concludes
a report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office.


SNIP

That's the trouble with metal. It corrodes.

It would have been far better to make the aircraft out of composite
materials, otherwise known as "plastic".


Really? B-52's flew for 50 years. Metal. F-4s, metal decades of
use, F-16s, F-14s, F-15s, F-18s, C5s, etc, etc. Plastic did it to
metal and if plastic was indeed a suitable material to use for 100% of
the plane's construction, they might use it. But it isn't.

Various materials have been used to make aeroplanes: -

Wood - e.g. De Haviland Mosquito


Wood the Spruce goose and probably millions of flying planes made mostly
of balsa wood.





Aluminium - most recent civil and military aircraft
Stainless Steel - English Electric Lightning (fighter and interceptor)
Titanium - Lockheed SR71
Plastic - Boeing 787

In fact most of these and magnesium have been made to make cameras too.

The only material unlikely to be affected by corrosion is gold, but for a
number of reasons this is unsuitable for aviation use or to make cameras.

BTW do the F22 and F35 come with a camera built in?




--
Peter
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Old March 2nd 11, 04:00 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Savageduck[_3_]
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Default What plastic did the the nation's premiere fighter aircraft

On 2011-03-01 16:23:38 -0800, Eric Stevens said:

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:06:30 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:


"Rich" wrote in message
...
On Feb 27, 2:00 pm, Bruce wrote:
RichA wrote:

Costly corrosion problems on the F-22 caused by stealth materials and
coatings have been addressed on the F-35, but risks remain, concludes
a report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office.

SNIP

That's the trouble with metal. It corrodes.

It would have been far better to make the aircraft out of composite
materials, otherwise known as "plastic".


Really? B-52's flew for 50 years. Metal. F-4s, metal decades of
use, F-16s, F-14s, F-15s, F-18s, C5s, etc, etc.


All of these aircraft have ongoing corrosion problems.


Perhaps you should have phrased that, "All aircraft have ongoing
corrosion problems."
Here is a little FAA brochure;
http://www.tc.faa.gov/its/cmd/visito...430/aainsp.pdf

They get suspicious when this type of thing happens;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bDNC...eature=related


--
Regards,

Savageduck

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Old March 2nd 11, 08:56 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Eric Stevens
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Default What plastic did the the nation's premiere fighter aircraft

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:00:53 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2011-03-01 16:23:38 -0800, Eric Stevens said:

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:06:30 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:


"Rich" wrote in message
...
On Feb 27, 2:00 pm, Bruce wrote:
RichA wrote:

Costly corrosion problems on the F-22 caused by stealth materials and
coatings have been addressed on the F-35, but risks remain, concludes
a report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office.

SNIP

That's the trouble with metal. It corrodes.

It would have been far better to make the aircraft out of composite
materials, otherwise known as "plastic".

Really? B-52's flew for 50 years. Metal. F-4s, metal decades of
use, F-16s, F-14s, F-15s, F-18s, C5s, etc, etc.


All of these aircraft have ongoing corrosion problems.


Perhaps you should have phrased that, "All aircraft have ongoing
corrosion problems."
Here is a little FAA brochure;
http://www.tc.faa.gov/its/cmd/visito...430/aainsp.pdf

They get suspicious when this type of thing happens;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bDNC...eature=related


I suspect someone should have become suspicious before this happened.

Regards,

Eric Stevens
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Old March 4th 11, 12:51 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
PeterN
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Default What plastic did the the nation's premiere fighter aircraft

On 3/2/2011 2:56 AM, Eric Stevens wrote:
On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 19:00:53 -0800, Savageduck
wrote:

On 2011-03-01 16:23:38 -0800, Eric said:

On Tue, 1 Mar 2011 14:06:30 -0000, "R. Mark Clayton"
wrote:


wrote in message
...
On Feb 27, 2:00 pm, wrote:
wrote:

Costly corrosion problems on the F-22 caused by stealth materials and
coatings have been addressed on the F-35, but risks remain, concludes
a report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office.

SNIP

That's the trouble with metal. It corrodes.

It would have been far better to make the aircraft out of composite
materials, otherwise known as "plastic".

Really? B-52's flew for 50 years. Metal. F-4s, metal decades of
use, F-16s, F-14s, F-15s, F-18s, C5s, etc, etc.

All of these aircraft have ongoing corrosion problems.


Perhaps you should have phrased that, "All aircraft have ongoing
corrosion problems."
Here is a little FAA brochure;
http://www.tc.faa.gov/its/cmd/visitors/data/AAR-430/aainsp.pdf

They get suspicious when this type of thing happens;
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4bDNCac2N1o&feature=related


I suspect someone should have become suspicious before this happened.

Regards,


Some could have been paid not to be.

--
Peter
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Old March 4th 11, 01:35 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
R. Mark Clayton
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Default What plastic did the the nation's premiere fighter aircraft


"PeterN" wrote in message
...
On 3/1/2011 9:06 AM, R. Mark Clayton wrote:
wrote in message
...
On Feb 27, 2:00 pm, wrote:
wrote:

Costly corrosion problems on the F-22 caused by stealth materials and
coatings have been addressed on the F-35, but risks remain, concludes
a report by the U.S. Government Accountability Office.

SNIP

That's the trouble with metal. It corrodes.

It would have been far better to make the aircraft out of composite
materials, otherwise known as "plastic".


Really? B-52's flew for 50 years. Metal. F-4s, metal decades of
use, F-16s, F-14s, F-15s, F-18s, C5s, etc, etc. Plastic did it to
metal and if plastic was indeed a suitable material to use for 100% of
the plane's construction, they might use it. But it isn't.

Various materials have been used to make aeroplanes: -

Wood - e.g. De Haviland Mosquito


Wood the Spruce goose and probably millions of flying planes made mostly
of balsa wood.

an assortment of woods in the Mosquito - balsa, spruce, birch etc.



--
Peter



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Old March 25th 11, 01:25 AM posted to rec.photo.digital.slr-systems,rec.photo.digital
Mr Cheerless
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Default What plastic did the the nation's premiere fighter aircraft

On 01/03/2011 17:33, RichA wrote:
On Mar 1, 12:14 pm, wrote:
On 2011-03-01 06:06:30 -0800, "R. Mark Clayton"
said:

Le Snip



BTW do the F22 and F35 come with a camera built in?


Several.
A gun camera, and several methods of recording other data images as
well as missile targeting events.

--
Regards,

Savageduck


And the missles have cameras in their noses, some of them.


Yes, but despite them having metal bodies, the IQ is just crap.
 




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