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Nikon D70 issues/questions Vs. Canon
DD (Rox) wrote:
In article 2fI3f.1674$UF4.484@fed1read02, "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number says... Funny how you Canon guys get upset to the point of plonking when someone disses your precious brand. That had nothing to do with it. I nearly plonked you when you made your ridiculous "shadow" comment. Ridiculous? Not really. Just obvious. Whenever I say something about Canon, there you are, like the proverbial shadow. I don't know who you are, Dallas. I don't know who any of the people on this forum are, but I can classify them segmentally with the greatest of ease. You don't have to like Canon. I like Nikon. I like Pentax. I like lots of brands. The only difference here is that you are clearly incapable of being even remotely objective about anything any more. You seem to take some sort of new-found pride in coming up with new ways of stating your hatred for a *brand.* This is not only intellectually embarrassing for you, but also indicative of someone who appears incapable of rational thought on the subject. I also like Pentax and I also like Olympus. But I will not tolerate people saying that Canon is superior to anything else because as I have proved over and over again, that is bull****. There is *nothing* special about Canon. Sadly this goes against the thought processes of yourself and a few others around here and you get uptight about it. I have gone to great lengths to speak with balance regarding various brands. You, on the other hand, have taken to wearing your lack of objectivity like a badge of honor. It's not. It merely paints you as a fool who can't rise above his emotions, and his tiny little corner of thought. Unlike you and the rest of the Canon worshipers I have used Nikons and Canons extensively. In fact I was just working it out that out of the 5 years I have been sick with photograhpy disease, 3 of them were spent using Canon equipment. So I have effectively had more experience with Canon than I have with Nikon. A tiny corner of thought? I don't think so, Mark. A LOT of thought has gone into the comments I make about how crap the Canon consumer line is. I have no doubt that it required significant efforts in thougth on your part. I couldn't care if you do, but it certainly won't stop me from telling it like it is. BTW, Skip, that 28-135mm lens is only good for amateurs who don't know any better. Hardly something I would recommend to someone who is serious about photography. Please point to images that demonstrate you've somehow moved beyond the quality of that particular lens, Dallas. I've looked at your sight, and I can't find a basis for your opinion in this regard. What can you show in this regard? What have you seen in your lenses that leads you to declaring crap on anything else. Mark...you're going to have to do better than that, m'boy. Let us begin by you telling me what it is about my published images that leaves you in any mind as to the notion that I don't know what I am talking about? Didn't say that. Are you saying the images are ****? Why do you keep asking me to tell you your pictures are crap? Read what I said. -What is there in your images that leads you to claim obvious optical superiority? I have never made superiority claims. Never. If so, tell me how, because from where I stand every one of them is way, way better than the snapshots you have posted to Pbase. I say that with conviction. Ah. Conviction! -Good word. I don't claim to be in the same league as someone like Simon Stanmore, for instance, but I am a lot better than most of the people who have the cheek to call themselves professional photographers. Of that there is no doubt in my mind. I've never slammed your pics. Why do you keep asking me to? To your likely dismay...I have posted recently how my 24-70 leaves my old 28-135 behind in terms of sharpness...but I have spoken with measured, comparative language. You, on the other hand, speak with foam frothing from your mouth. I've lost all respect for your opinion because you've chosen a self-declared lack of objectivity. The 28-135mm Canon lens is a very soft lens compared to most consumer grade Nikkors I have used with similar focal lengths (I have never used a 24-120mm though). But all that is besides the point, because you, like so many other psuedo photo experts, seem to think that you can tell how good a lens is simply by looking at a jpeg posted to the internet. Show me where I've done this. Quote? FWIW, the images I have on my site come from a variety of different sources...digital SLR's (3 types), film SLR's (about 5 types) and rangefinders (1 type). At least 10 different lenses too. I challenge you to tell me what equipment took what shot. That's the point. If you/I can't tell, then what is it about your shots vs. other's shots that leads you to declare crap? And Mark, if dissing Canon is called trolling in your book, what's Bret guilty of everytime he disses Nikon? Humor. He's guilty of goading, blatant...humor. -Something you clearly don't have. But you just said you don't know me, so how can you make a statement like that in the same post? My comments pertain to your posts. I do know your posts...which is what I've commented on. We all know Bret's schtick. You don't have a schtick, Dallas. It's just you. I remeber WAAAY back when Bret first started posting...I gave him crap all the time. -Then after a time it became clear what he was up to, and it turned into entertainment...not to mention a number of spurts of decent photography. You, on the other hand, are just turning into an arse. You aren't funny, Dallas, and you don't show evidence of anything other than your own bitterness. You merely come off as a guy who got a black eye from the South African Canon Service Center...and as a result, has set aside sanity to continue your mindless ravings against a brand. You have become the poster child for why brand wars are reserved for fools. At least I am not a nerd. There are other states of being which are also worth avoiding. Regarding "dissing..." Even I have "dissed" Canon, you boob. Did you read my thread about whether the 5D was/is over-priced for it's build quality? -About the lack of this and that? Did you read my loudly expressed displeasure with Canon's handling of 20D problems way back when--even though I don't own one? --When Nikon announced specs for their new generation of topline DSLR a year or so ago...guess who started a new thread, glowingly expressing how impressed he was?? -That was me, Dallas. -You know...the Canon worshipper (or so you claim). So you see, DD...Roxy...Dallas...whoever the heck you are... You have proven only that when it comes to discussions of equipment, you are a closed-minded, bitter man...hell-bent on your own version of reality that leads you to robotic responses of mindless anti-blatherings. I never blather. I speak the truth. LOL! Some people can't handle the truth. Are you among them? Now there's some humor! Unintentional, of course, but still humorous. Other than that...You're not a bad guy. Too late for that. Aw gee... |
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"Tony Polson" wrote in message
... "Skip M" wrote: "Tony Polson" wrote in message . .. John A. Stovall wrote: Others are already asking that question as to why both Zeiss and Leica don't do that. Leica had discussions with both Canon and Nikon within the last two years. My credit cards are cringing... Leica obviously decided not to take this route, so your credit cards are safe. For now. ;-) Hey, two years is but an eyeblink in R&D terms, when it comes to designing a mount and lens system compatible with a competitors product. It could still happen...my credit cards aren't relaxing... -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com |
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William Graham wrote:
"Skip M" wrote in message newsor3f.1432$UF4.1026@fed1read02... "sierra" wrote in message roups.com... "Money spinner" - yes "Profit spinner" - no. Mass market - GM, Ford, VW - losses Porsche - profits Porsche was nearly out of business 10 years ago, the Boxter is what saved them, a (relatively) mass market Porsche. Chrysler-profits-| |--DCX-losses. Mercedes-losses-| The mass market drives profits in a properly managed company, which, at this point, GM and Ford are not. Toyota, Honda and Renault/Nissan are largely mass market manufacturers, and very profitable. -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com Porsche owns over 18% of VW now..... ??? I thought it was the other way round. |
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"Scott Schuckert" wrote in message ... Another dentist I know collects 1958 Cadillacs; has over a dozen of 'em. So it's probably no suprise they're camera collectors; the odd thing was that they all seemed to be into Nikon instead of Leica. Well, Nikon has marketed a lens and flash that are dedicated to dental photography......I don't know whether Leica has done this or not....... |
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"no_name" wrote in message news:_oS3f.5357 Porsche owns over 18% of VW now..... ??? I thought it was the other way round. I did too, until I googled it and read otherwise..... |
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Douglas... wrote:
MarkČ wrote: So you see, DD...Roxy...Dallas...whoever the heck you are... You have proven only that when it comes to discussions of equipment, you are a closed-minded, bitter man...hell-bent on your own version of reality that leads you to robotic responses of mindless anti-blatherings. Other than that...You're not a bad guy. Feel better now, Mark? I'm fine. How are you? |
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Paul Bielec wrote:
Tony Polson wrote: "Skip M" wrote: "William Graham" wrote in message Porsche owns over 18% of VW now..... Not exactly. There is a common family ownership of Porsche, Audi and VW. William is exactly right. Porsche owns 18.4% of VW and intends to increase that stake to 19.9% There is no common family ownership of Porsche, Audi and VW. The Piech and Porsche families are related, so there is a family relationship between the respective management teams, but VAG (VW-Audi) is majority owned by the government of the German states in which the main VW manufacturing plants are located. There is a possibility that more VAG shares may be offered on the German Stock exchange. Porsche relies on VAG for many components and the Porsche board wished to secure a significant shareholding in VAG to ensure that the co-operative relationship between the two companies would not be diluted by any future sell-off. I went to Wolfsburg few years back and visited the Autostadt, a theme park next to the main VW factory. It features VW group brands: VW, Audi, Skoda, Seat, Lamborghini and possibly something else I'm forgetting. I thought Chrysler bought Lamborghini... ? |
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Nikon D70 issues/questions Vs. Canon
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005 22:39:04 -0700, "Richard H." wrote:
DD (Rox) wrote: Heh, heh. You know who the best retail customers are (or were)? DENTISTS. When I had my camera stores, the dentists who came in were incredible hardware junkies. One guy wanted to own - and nearly did - the entire Nikon catalog. I mean, stupid stuff like Nikon-brand, darkroom-only bulk film loaders. I know EXACTLY the people you're talking about! Funny you should say that, I know two dentists who are hectically involved in photographic equipment! Actually one's an orthodontist, but I suppose it's the same sort of thing... This is an odd trend; I wonder about the cause and effect with dentists and photography. :-) Locally, there's known to be a large Internet porn company that's owned by (you guessed it) - two dentists. No knowing if they shoot their own pics, but I'd bet so. It's not because they're dentists. -Rich |
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DD (Rox) wrote:
Please point to images that demonstrate you've somehow moved beyond the quality of that particular lens, Dallas. I've looked at your sight, and I can't find a basis for your opinion in this regard. What can you show in this regard? What have you seen in your lenses that leads you to declaring crap on anything else. Mark...you're going to have to do better than that, m'boy. Let us begin by you telling me what it is about my published images that leaves you in any mind as to the notion that I don't know what I am talking about? Are you saying the images are ****? If so, tell me how, because from where I stand every one of them is way, way better than the snapshots you have posted to Pbase. Actually, I agree with you. Many of the images I have posted there are indeed nothing more than snapshots. I use Pbase for various reasons...and not to impress or sell my photos... Shots like these are certainly snapshots: http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/38258545/original and http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/47924570/original Others are posted merely for purposes relating to discussions... Like: http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/37018969/original But oops! There's yet another example of me pointing out Canon flaws! Once again, I foil your accusations of Canon worship. Then there are other shots that I think surpass your "snapshot" put-down... Like this one: http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/47982648/original And this one: http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/36235344/original (you should see that one printed to 48 inches... Looks rather better than most other shots I've seen of this famous crater--which is as close as you'll ever hear me come to bragging). Or perhaps this non snap-shot: http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/36235043/original Here's another one I like, though I'd have to say it's a bit off-level: http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/38258451/original I like this one too...kinda different: http://www.pbase.com/markuson/image/47616297/original What are some of the shots you like from your site? (And please note I've made zero claims about any great this or that... These are just shots that I think move a bit beyond happy-snaps... -Mark |
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"MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote in message
news:LKY3f.1758$UF4.49@fed1read02... Paul Bielec wrote: I went to Wolfsburg few years back and visited the Autostadt, a theme park next to the main VW factory. It features VW group brands: VW, Audi, Skoda, Seat, Lamborghini and possibly something else I'm forgetting. I thought Chrysler bought Lamborghini... ? Wow, you're behind the curve! Chrysler sold Lambo not long after Lee Iacocca's departure, and severed the connection with DeTomaso and Maserati about the same time. Some Southeast Asian consortium owned Lambo just long enough to truly screw up the finances, then VW/Audi bought the mess, put it under Audi aegis. The Lambo Gallardo shares engineering and an engine with the upcoming Audi mid engined supercar, the Le Mans. -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com |
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