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Nikon D70 issues/questions Vs. Canon
"William Graham" wrote in message
... "Skip M" wrote in message newsor3f.1432$UF4.1026@fed1read02... "sierra" wrote in message ups.com... "Money spinner" - yes "Profit spinner" - no. Mass market - GM, Ford, VW - losses Porsche - profits Porsche was nearly out of business 10 years ago, the Boxter is what saved them, a (relatively) mass market Porsche. Chrysler-profits-| |--DCX-losses. Mercedes-losses-| The mass market drives profits in a properly managed company, which, at this point, GM and Ford are not. Toyota, Honda and Renault/Nissan are largely mass market manufacturers, and very profitable. -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com Porsche owns over 18% of VW now..... Not exactly. There is a common family ownership of Porsche, Audi and VW. -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com |
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"MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote in message
news:ckD3f.1629$UF4.821@fed1read02... MarkČ wrote: Skip M wrote: "DD (Rox)" wrote in message ... In article tir3f.1431$UF4.1260@fed1read02, says... Well, here's something for you to chew on: on Friday last week I popped into one of the local photographic shops and I was fiddling around with the 5D, chatting to the manager. I asked him how much interest he had in the camera and he said that he had taken about 10 orders for it, but amazingly all of them were from people who were not regular photographers. They were mostly rich folks who had bought the camera (with one of the crappy kit lenses) because it was the newest thing and they had to had it. The only "kit" I've heard of for the 5D is a European bundle with the 24-105 f4L IS, hardly a "crappy kit lens." C'mon, Dallas, at least try for a little objectivity. I was talking to the manager of the local Calumet, yesterday, and his comments were pretty much diametrically opposed to those of your store manager, most of the interest is from people like me, part time pros or full time pros who can't justify the cost of the 1Ds MkII. I was talking about the 28-135mm and 28-105m zoom lenses. I look at those as being nothing more than kit lenses, normally recommended by the sales person. There certainly is a lot of interest in the 5D from people who would like to own one, but as I said all the orders he has taken are from people who can *afford* one, none of whom are photographers in the true sense. "Objectivity"? My objectivity for Canon went down the same hole as the thousands of dollars I wasted buying into the brand in the first place. Thieves. That's what they are. Conniving thieves who will ever see another cent of my hard earned dough. -- DD (everything is temporary) www.dallasdahms.com Well, it was hard to tell that you meant the 28-135, since it is hardly "crappy," either. It's a good lens, and a good match for the 5D, too. Dallas, it's nice you discovered your mistake in time to tell all the world about how bad Canon's equipment is. Now is about time to take a break, because you are starting to sound like StevieG/George Preddy. No Canon mention can go unremarked upon by you and your vitriol are sadly misplaced. I've enjoyed some of the interplay with you, but your inferences about the people who are buying the 5D are probably wide of the mark, and not appreciated. Dallas and I called a truce some time back...and then enjoyed playful banter. But he's not entered into full Troll mode, and it's becoming tiresome. -Nearly plonked him a couple days ago... Oops! That SHOULD have said, "He's NOW entered into full Troll Mode!!!!!" Yeah, I made that translation/transition! ;-) And I agree, he's not even maintaining the level of objectivity that Douglas has. -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com |
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Skip M wrote:
"MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote in message news:ckD3f.1629$UF4.821@fed1read02... MarkČ wrote: Skip M wrote: "DD (Rox)" wrote in message ... In article tir3f.1431$UF4.1260@fed1read02, says... Well, here's something for you to chew on: on Friday last week I popped into one of the local photographic shops and I was fiddling around with the 5D, chatting to the manager. I asked him how much interest he had in the camera and he said that he had taken about 10 orders for it, but amazingly all of them were from people who were not regular photographers. They were mostly rich folks who had bought the camera (with one of the crappy kit lenses) because it was the newest thing and they had to had it. The only "kit" I've heard of for the 5D is a European bundle with the 24-105 f4L IS, hardly a "crappy kit lens." C'mon, Dallas, at least try for a little objectivity. I was talking to the manager of the local Calumet, yesterday, and his comments were pretty much diametrically opposed to those of your store manager, most of the interest is from people like me, part time pros or full time pros who can't justify the cost of the 1Ds MkII. I was talking about the 28-135mm and 28-105m zoom lenses. I look at those as being nothing more than kit lenses, normally recommended by the sales person. There certainly is a lot of interest in the 5D from people who would like to own one, but as I said all the orders he has taken are from people who can *afford* one, none of whom are photographers in the true sense. "Objectivity"? My objectivity for Canon went down the same hole as the thousands of dollars I wasted buying into the brand in the first place. Thieves. That's what they are. Conniving thieves who will ever see another cent of my hard earned dough. -- DD (everything is temporary) www.dallasdahms.com Well, it was hard to tell that you meant the 28-135, since it is hardly "crappy," either. It's a good lens, and a good match for the 5D, too. Dallas, it's nice you discovered your mistake in time to tell all the world about how bad Canon's equipment is. Now is about time to take a break, because you are starting to sound like StevieG/George Preddy. No Canon mention can go unremarked upon by you and your vitriol are sadly misplaced. I've enjoyed some of the interplay with you, but your inferences about the people who are buying the 5D are probably wide of the mark, and not appreciated. Dallas and I called a truce some time back...and then enjoyed playful banter. But he's not entered into full Troll mode, and it's becoming tiresome. -Nearly plonked him a couple days ago... Oops! That SHOULD have said, "He's NOW entered into full Troll Mode!!!!!" Yeah, I made that translation/transition! ;-) And I agree, he's not even maintaining the level of objectivity that Douglas has. Even Dallas says he's no longer objective. -Go figure what he hoped to accomplish by announcing that... ? -It does simplify the formation of opinions regarding his posts, though... |
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Skip M wrote:
"William Graham" wrote in message ... "Skip M" wrote in message newsor3f.1432$UF4.1026@fed1read02... "sierra" wrote in message ups.com... "Money spinner" - yes "Profit spinner" - no. Mass market - GM, Ford, VW - losses Porsche - profits Porsche was nearly out of business 10 years ago, the Boxter is what saved them, a (relatively) mass market Porsche. Chrysler-profits-| |--DCX-losses. Mercedes-losses-| The mass market drives profits in a properly managed company, which, at this point, GM and Ford are not. Toyota, Honda and Renault/Nissan are largely mass market manufacturers, and very profitable. -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com Porsche owns over 18% of VW now..... Not exactly. There is a common family ownership of Porsche, Audi and VW. That's what I thought, too... |
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"MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest even number wrote in message news:Lsl3f.1412$UF4.561@fed1read02... wrote: Dear experts, I've always used Nikon, and have a number of FE and FM cameras, and whole bunch of fixed focal length lenses. I took my equipment to the store the other day, and noticed a few issues. The focusing screen in that D70 was just a matte/Fresnel. There was no split in the middle where you can focus by lining up two lines together. And it's hard to tell in the small viewfinder if the picture is in focus. The other thing I noticed is that the viewfinder screen is smaller. I'm older now, and it seems I need my glasses to focus through there. And, in the catalog, there is no diopter (?) correction for the D70. They have some for other Nikons, but not the D70. So, this brings up the question, if there is any real advantage to buying a Nikon digital so that I can use my old fixed manual focus sharp lenses, if I can't focus them. I could buy used Nikon autofocus lenses if I bought the Nikon. But then I could just buy used Canon lenses too if I bought a Canon. I understand that Canon has brought out a newer camera lately. Does anyone know how it compares on these issues? Does it have a diopter? Does it have different screens? How does the Canon compare in any other area that you think is significant? Advantages? Disadvantages? Thanks a lot The Canon with similarly small sensors have similar issues with manual focus... But... The latest from Canon is the full-frame 5D, which will have a large, bright viewfinder, more in keeping with what you're used to. It also accepts different screens, and has diopter adjustment. $3K gets you 12.8 megapixels, and the above. Hello, I don't know for sure about the D70 - but the D70s has a diopter on it's eyepiece. I know because I have it set so I don't have to take my glasses off. The DX lenses are "autofocus" you don't need to worry about it. You can also manual focus it by turning it off, as well as the camera switch for manual focus. I checked out both cameras before I purchased my D70s, the Nikon fit my had better than any of the cannons. An added bonus is my Girlfriend has the film version of my camera and our lenses are switchabel. We are going to share the costs of a good telephoto lens next year, so that is a bonus, she can use it, and I can use it. We like nature and outdoors shots so it works out for us. Monty |
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"Skip M" wrote in message news:%bF3f.1647$UF4.1430@fed1read02... "William Graham" wrote in message ... "Skip M" wrote in message newsor3f.1432$UF4.1026@fed1read02... "sierra" wrote in message ups.com... "Money spinner" - yes "Profit spinner" - no. Mass market - GM, Ford, VW - losses Porsche - profits Porsche was nearly out of business 10 years ago, the Boxter is what saved them, a (relatively) mass market Porsche. Chrysler-profits-| |--DCX-losses. Mercedes-losses-| The mass market drives profits in a properly managed company, which, at this point, GM and Ford are not. Toyota, Honda and Renault/Nissan are largely mass market manufacturers, and very profitable. -- Skip Middleton http://www.shadowcatcherimagery.com Porsche owns over 18% of VW now..... Not exactly. There is a common family ownership of Porsche, Audi and VW. Well, I read that they were gradually buying VW stock, but the maximum they can acquire will be 20%. See: http://us.ft.com/ftsuperpage/superpa...ampaign=NewsKW |
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Monty Bonner wrote:
my Girlfriend has the film version of my camera and our lenses are switchabel. We are going to share the costs of a good telephoto lens next year, so that is a bonus, she can use it, and I can use it. We like nature and outdoors shots so it works out for us. Monty Oh boy... ....I can just see the tug-o-war when you two break up-- Methinks you might want to consider a pre-pre-nuptual on the lens... |
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In article , Rox wrote: Yep, too much disposable income. I once had a chat to a guy I saw brandishing an F5 with a crappy Sigma lens on it. I wanted to know what he thought of the camera and he prattled on about how it took the best photos he ever saw. Sounds like another guy we know who owns an EOS1v. Heh, heh. You know who the best retail customers are (or were)? DENTISTS. When I had my camera stores, the dentists who came in were incredible hardware junkies. One guy wanted to own - and nearly did - the entire Nikon catalog. I mean, stupid stuff like Nikon-brand, darkroom-only bulk film loaders. I know EXACTLY the people you're talking about! Funny you should say that, I know two dentists who are hectically involved in photographic equipment! Actually one's an orthodontist, but I suppose it's the same sort of thing... -- DD (everything is temporary) www.dallasdahms.com |
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In article CiF3f.1650$UF4.1597@fed1read02, "MarkČ" mjmorgan(lowest
even number says... Well, it was hard to tell that you meant the 28-135, since it is hardly "crappy," either. It's a good lens, and a good match for the 5D, too. Dallas, it's nice you discovered your mistake in time to tell all the world about how bad Canon's equipment is. Now is about time to take a break, because you are starting to sound like StevieG/George Preddy. No Canon mention can go unremarked upon by you and your vitriol are sadly misplaced. I've enjoyed some of the interplay with you, but your inferences about the people who are buying the 5D are probably wide of the mark, and not appreciated. Dallas and I called a truce some time back...and then enjoyed playful banter. But he's not entered into full Troll mode, and it's becoming tiresome. -Nearly plonked him a couple days ago... Oops! That SHOULD have said, "He's NOW entered into full Troll Mode!!!!!" Yeah, I made that translation/transition! ;-) And I agree, he's not even maintaining the level of objectivity that Douglas has. Even Dallas says he's no longer objective. -Go figure what he hoped to accomplish by announcing that... ? -It does simplify the formation of opinions regarding his posts, though.... Funny how you Canon guys get upset to the point of plonking when someone disses your precious brand. I couldn't care if you do, but it certainly won't stop me from telling it like it is. BTW, Skip, that 28-135mm lens is only good for amateurs who don't know any better. Hardly something I would recommend to someone who is serious about photography. And Mark, if dissing Canon is called trolling in your book, what's Bret guilty of everytime he disses Nikon? -- DD (everything is temporary) www.dallasdahms.com |
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