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Is RGB to Lab lossy? - was( Lenses and sharpening)
In article , PeterN
wrote: The fact is that very little can be done in any plug-in that can't be done in PS. completely false. if that were the case, then there would be no need for plug-ins. Almost anything can be done in both RGB & LAB. LAB is a lot easie, and faster for some processes. very few and not without a cost. that gives more flexability, which is a good thing. Getting into a tool war, is meaningless, unless there is a reasonable accurate description of what eah plug-in does. Habing said that, I am annoyed that the oil paint filter was removed from CC 2014. third party opportunity. |
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Is RGB to Lab lossy? - was( Lenses and sharpening)
On 2014-10-10 03:58:09 +0000, Savageduck said:
On 2014-10-10 03:26:22 +0000, John McWilliams said: On 10/9/14 PDT, 11:55 AM, Savageduck wrote: On 2014-10-09 17:49:40 +0000, PeterN said: On 10/9/2014 12:26 PM, Savageduck wrote: The fact is that very little can be done in any plug-in that can't be done in PS. Almost anything can be done in both RGB & LAB. LAB is a lot easie, and faster for some processes. that gives more flexability, which is a good thing. Getting into a tool war, is meaningless, unless there is a reasonable accurate description of what eah plug-in does. Do the research, & experimenting, you have the plug-ins. Habing said that, I am annoyed that the oil paint filter was removed from CC 2014. to the best of my recollection the "Oil Paint" filter and one other were add-ons back with CS5. I see that it isn't there in CC (2014). So I checked with the "Filter Gallery" and I see that will only be available in 8-Bit mode, and "Oil Paint" is absent from that. So, for now if you want to use the "Oil Paint" filter you will have to uses PS CC or CS6. That said I am sure that with some digging about it can be located and installed. Perhaps Adobe support might be able to help. If you really want to paint, get StudioArtist v. 4. Amazing program. Free trial. Not really for me, my painting skills are questionable at best, so I am not going to spend $300 on that type of program. Peter is the one who misses the "Oil Paint" filter in PS CC (2014). However, he has both CS6 & PS CC where it still exists and functions as designed. Also the PS "Filter Gallery" gives the artist access to a whole bunch of brushes, styles and effects. My less ambitious painting skills are catered to with stuff bundled with my Wacom Intuous 4, Corel Painter Sketch Pad, & Sketchbook Express. Then with my iPad I have the very powerful ArtStudio. And, IIRC, there used to be actions you could download (or make yourself) that'd do painterly things. Some interesting Adobe news along with the latest CC update and PS CC (2014) update. For the CC subscribers who also use an iPad there are now the free, Adobe Sketch, Adobe illustrator Draw (for vector graphics), Adobe Shape, and Adobe Brush. The product of any of those is available via the new CC Library in all CC apps. http://sketch.adobe.com http://www.adobe.com/products/draw.html http://www.adobe.com/products/shape.html For those who like the idea of creating custom brushes, that is made into a simple task with Adobe Brush, using any source. http://www.adobe.com/products/brush.html -- Regards, Savageduck |
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Is RGB to Lab lossy? - was( Lenses and sharpening)
On 10/11/2014 12:20 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN wrote: The fact is that very little can be done in any plug-in that can't be done in PS. completely false. if that were the case, then there would be no need for plug-ins. Bad logic. Some plug-ins allow for faster processing. Also, do learn to read, I said nothing about speeding up workflow. Almost anything can be done in both RGB & LAB. LAB is a lot easie, and faster for some processes. very few and not without a cost. You just don't know how to use lAB, and won't admit that. that gives more flexability, which is a good thing. Getting into a tool war, is meaningless, unless there is a reasonable accurate description of what eah plug-in does. Habing said that, I am annoyed that the oil paint filter was removed from CC 2014. third party opportunity. Yup -- PeterN |
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Is RGB to Lab lossy? - was( Lenses and sharpening)
In article , PeterN
wrote: The fact is that very little can be done in any plug-in that can't be done in PS. completely false. if that were the case, then there would be no need for plug-ins. Bad logic. Some plug-ins allow for faster processing. Also, do learn to read, I said nothing about speeding up workflow. take your own advice, do learn to read. i didn't say anything about speeding up workflow at all. Almost anything can be done in both RGB & LAB. LAB is a lot easie, and faster for some processes. very few and not without a cost. You just don't know how to use lAB, and won't admit that. i've forgotten more about lab that you'll ever know. that gives more flexability, which is a good thing. Getting into a tool war, is meaningless, unless there is a reasonable accurate description of what eah plug-in does. Habing said that, I am annoyed that the oil paint filter was removed from CC 2014. third party opportunity. Yup then why are you annoyed? |
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Is RGB to Lab lossy? - was( Lenses and sharpening)
On 10/13/2014 2:24 AM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN wrote: The fact is that very little can be done in any plug-in that can't be done in PS. completely false. if that were the case, then there would be no need for plug-ins. Bad logic. Some plug-ins allow for faster processing. Also, do learn to read, I said nothing about speeding up workflow. take your own advice, do learn to read. i didn't say anything about speeding up workflow at all. Never said you did. Indeed, your commengt totally ignored that potential Almost anything can be done in both RGB & LAB. LAB is a lot easie, and faster for some processes. very few and not without a cost. You just don't know how to use lAB, and won't admit that. i've forgotten more about lab that you'll ever know. YOur comments about LAB do support your statement. that gives more flexability, which is a good thing. Getting into a tool war, is meaningless, unless there is a reasonable accurate description of what eah plug-in does. Habing said that, I am annoyed that the oil paint filter was removed from CC 2014. third party opportunity. Yup then why are you annoyed? I do not see a rational reason why I should have to use one. I had eliminated Painter from my workflow, and missed the upgrade window. -- PeterN |
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Is RGB to Lab lossy? - was( Lenses and sharpening)
In article , PeterN
wrote: The fact is that very little can be done in any plug-in that can't be done in PS. completely false. if that were the case, then there would be no need for plug-ins. Bad logic. Some plug-ins allow for faster processing. Also, do learn to read, I said nothing about speeding up workflow. take your own advice, do learn to read. i didn't say anything about speeding up workflow at all. Never said you did. Indeed, your commengt totally ignored that potential i did not ignore anything. your statement is bull****. period. as usual, you refuse to admit you're wrong and are twisting things into something entirely different. Almost anything can be done in both RGB & LAB. LAB is a lot easie, and faster for some processes. very few and not without a cost. You just don't know how to use lAB, and won't admit that. i've forgotten more about lab that you'll ever know. YOur comments about LAB do support your statement. at least you admit you know nothing about lab. that gives more flexability, which is a good thing. Getting into a tool war, is meaningless, unless there is a reasonable accurate description of what eah plug-in does. Habing said that, I am annoyed that the oil paint filter was removed from CC 2014. third party opportunity. Yup then why are you annoyed? I do not see a rational reason why I should have to use one. I had eliminated Painter from my workflow, and missed the upgrade window. nobody said you had to use one. |
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Is RGB to Lab lossy? - was( Lenses and sharpening)
On 10/13/2014 4:41 PM, nospam wrote:
In article , PeterN wrote: The fact is that very little can be done in any plug-in that can't be done in PS. completely false. if that were the case, then there would be no need for plug-ins. Bad logic. Some plug-ins allow for faster processing. Also, do learn to read, I said nothing about speeding up workflow. take your own advice, do learn to read. i didn't say anything about speeding up workflow at all. Never said you did. Indeed, your commengt totally ignored that potential i did not ignore anything. your statement is bull****. period. as usual, you refuse to admit you're wrong and are twisting things into something entirely different. Lie # 223. Almost anything can be done in both RGB & LAB. LAB is a lot easie, and faster for some processes. very few and not without a cost. You just don't know how to use lAB, and won't admit that. i've forgotten more about lab that you'll ever know. YOur comments about LAB do support your statement. at least you admit you know nothing about lab. that gives more flexability, which is a good thing. Getting into a tool war, is meaningless, unless there is a reasonable accurate description of what eah plug-in does. Habing said that, I am annoyed that the oil paint filter was removed from CC 2014. third party opportunity. Yup then why are you annoyed? I do not see a rational reason why I should have to use one. I had eliminated Painter from my workflow, and missed the upgrade window. nobody said you had to use one. YOur opinion is neither sought, nor respected. -- PeterN |
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