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Old March 10th 07, 02:26 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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William Graham wrote:
Exactly....So the question, "How big can I blow up a 35 mm slide?" is
really meaningless....It depends on how far away the observer is,
and/or on how good the vision of the observer is......


I think "meaningless" is a bit far in the other direction. It's
another part of the subjective equation, albeit not as critical.
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Old March 10th 07, 03:51 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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"TheDaveŠ" wrote in message
...
William Graham wrote:
Exactly....So the question, "How big can I blow up a 35 mm slide?" is
really meaningless....It depends on how far away the observer is,
and/or on how good the vision of the observer is......


I think "meaningless" is a bit far in the other direction. It's
another part of the subjective equation, albeit not as critical.


Well, by "meaningless", I mean there is not enough information to adequately
answer the question. Life is full of examples of this....Just watch the TV
ads for a few minutes.....I think that if I hear them say on Animal Planet,
or some such place, "The shark can bite down with tons and tons of force"
one more time, I will go ballistic....Why doesn't the general population
understand the difference between force and pressure? - It's such a simple
concept......


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Old March 11th 07, 12:35 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Mar 10, 6:33 am, TheDaveŠ wrote:
Ok, I have someone who wishes to purchase a photo of mine to frame on
his wall. He desires to have it printed as large as possible. I'm
sure there is a limit of some kind, but he said as large as possible.


As others have said, there is no limit. Yes, it depends to some
extent on some obvious factors, like:
- quality of the original - is it really pin-sharp? Images can look
ok via a cheap loupe or projector, but when enlarged may reveal
blurring or o-o-f problems.
- quality of the scan (or optical enlargement process) - if it is a
truly nailed Kodachrome, it will probably benefit from *more* than
4000 ppi. Have you considered a drum scan, or just a higher res
scanner like the Minolta 5400's?

BUT, as others have mentioned, *image content* is possibly the most
important factor, imo. Does it invite close scrutiny, like a detailed
landscape with lots of foliage or grass, or is it a 'stand-back' sort
of image, like a close-up portrait or flower macro? That's the
killer, and will largely determine the size at which it falls apart.

Images without fine detail, or with large geometric areas of colours,
will enlarge *much* more than those with lots of fine information that
draws the viewer up close.

May I suggest that you experiment, by printing a crop of a
representative area of the image on your Canon at various sizes? Note
that the *way* you enlarge it is critical - I strongly suggest you
invest in QImage (is the demo version still available, maybe?) and use
it to do the enlarging/printing using one of its better algorithms
(vector, pyramid or the new one - 'hybrid' I think it's called).

Let us know how you get on.


By the way, it is worth noting that the answers provided by Douglas
were indeed excellent. Bravo, Doug, keep that up!

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Old March 11th 07, 12:51 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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oups.com...


By the way, it is worth noting that the answers provided by Douglas
were indeed excellent. Bravo, Doug, keep that up!

Does Mark know you're using his computer?


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Old March 11th 07, 01:16 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Mar 11, 10:51 am, "D-Mac" wrote:
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oups.com...

By the way, it is worth noting that the answers provided by Douglas
were indeed excellent. Bravo, Doug, keep that up!

Does Mark know you're using his computer?


(O;

No, it's truly me, Doug. Just check my comments on your cat image...
(O;

But when you post good information or good images (- like your soaring
pelican image), I will give credit where due. Those were good posts
above.

Maybe you might discover my good side if you keep this up.. (O:

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Old March 11th 07, 01:22 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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wrote in message
ups.com...
: On Mar 11, 10:51 am, "D-Mac" wrote:
: wrote in message
:
: oups.com...
:
: By the way, it is worth noting that the answers provided by Douglas
: were indeed excellent. Bravo, Doug, keep that up!
:
: Does Mark know you're using his computer?
:
: (O;
:
: No, it's truly me, Doug. Just check my comments on your cat image...
: (O;
:
: But when you post good information or good images (- like your soaring
: pelican image), I will give credit where due. Those were good posts
: above.
:
: Maybe you might discover my good side if you keep this up.. (O:
:

Now you tell me about it!
Mark is gonna kick you bum when he finds out about this lot...


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Old March 11th 07, 04:00 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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TheDaveŠ wrote:
Ok, I have someone who wishes to purchase a photo of mine to frame on
his wall. He desires to have it printed as large as possible. I'm
sure there is a limit of some kind, but he said as large as possible.
Anyway, the image is from a 35mm slide (Kodachrome 64, I think, but I
forget for sure, I'd have to look) scanned on a Nikon Coolscan 9000 at
4000ppi.

I have a Canon i9900 printer, which will do up 13x19, but I think I'd
prefer to have a professional actually do the printing.

Can anyone suggest a rough idea what might be a size limit for a good
print?

Also, I have never sold anything before (never tried), so I don't know
how much to even charge. But, I'm more concerned about size and
quality first.


These are the largest I've done with 6MP D70:
http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php&DIR=Misc/photography/framing/2006-05-17-final&PG=1&PIC=1
about 30x30 lightjets. Notice they are placed high on the wall behind
furniture so you don't look at them up close.
  #18  
Old March 11th 07, 04:37 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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THO wrote:

In article ,
Paul Furman wrote:


TheDaveŠ wrote:

Ok, I have someone who wishes to purchase a photo of mine to frame on
his wall. He desires to have it printed as large as possible. I'm
sure there is a limit of some kind, but he said as large as possible.
Anyway, the image is from a 35mm slide (Kodachrome 64, I think, but I
forget for sure, I'd have to look) scanned on a Nikon Coolscan 9000 at
4000ppi.

I have a Canon i9900 printer, which will do up 13x19, but I think I'd
prefer to have a professional actually do the printing.

Can anyone suggest a rough idea what might be a size limit for a good
print?

Also, I have never sold anything before (never tried), so I don't know
how much to even charge. But, I'm more concerned about size and
quality first.


These are the largest I've done with 6MP D70:
http://www.edgehill.net/1/?SC=go.php...ng/2006-05-17-
final&PG=1&PIC=1
about 30x30 lightjets. Notice they are placed high on the wall behind
furniture so you don't look at them up close.



The architecture in those pictures is pretty interesting ... is that a
home or office?


Office in a crummy makeshift warehouse building. Tall ceiling though.
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Old March 11th 07, 07:51 AM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Mar 11, 11:22 am, "D-Mac" wrote:
wrote in message

ups.com...
: On Mar 11, 10:51 am, "D-Mac" wrote:: wrote in message

....
: But when you post good information or good images (- like your soaring
: pelican image), I will give credit where due. Those were good posts
: above.
:
: Maybe you might discover my good side if you keep this up.. (O:
:

Now you tell me about it!
Mark is gonna kick you (sic) bum when he finds out about this lot...


Ah well, believe what you wish. I'm just trying to be more mellow
these days.. By the way, I should clarify... The very nice soaring
pelican image I am referring to is *this* one:
http://www.canvasphotos.com.au/_private/bkgrnd-dex.png
You can't really tell from that canvas-textured image, but I seem to
recall the original looked pretty good. Nice shot. Could use a
little more control of those highlights in the clouds though...

I'm definitely NOT referring to this one:
http://www.annika1980.com/D-Macs/blurry-what.htm
which you completely blew out of the water, and pretty much sucks...
(O;

And I even quite like your b&w pelican/seagull thing he
http://www.annika1980.com/D-Macs/monochrome-digital.htm
...although the comments that go with it are a little o-t-t, the
framing treatment doesn't add much, and is that dodging/burning that
has caused a hot-spot? The seagulls in the centre are blown, yet
others appear greyed out... Once again - attention to detail, D.M....

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Old March 12th 07, 07:07 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm
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On Mar 9, 4:33 pm, TheDaveŠ wrote:
Ok, I have someone who wishes to purchase a photo of mine to frame on
his wall. He desires to have it printed as large as possible. I'm
sure there is a limit of some kind, but he said as large as possible.
Anyway, the image is from a 35mm slide (Kodachrome 64, I think, but I
forget for sure, I'd have to look) scanned on a Nikon Coolscan 9000 at
4000ppi.

I have a Canon i9900 printer, which will do up 13x19, but I think I'd
prefer to have a professional actually do the printing.

Can anyone suggest a rough idea what might be a size limit for a good
print?

Also, I have never sold anything before (never tried), so I don't know
how much to even charge. But, I'm more concerned about size and
quality first.


Dave,

I sell my prints all the time, and it's actually possible to get them
pretty big. The biggest I've printed without losing quality is about
24x36 and that shot was taken with a 6.0 mega pixel Canon Powershot,
believe it or not. Most professional printers are quite good, but you
can get a better deal if you find someone online you can trust. You
simply email them your jpeg and they send you the print. This can be
1/3 cheaper than getting it done at print shop. Good luck!

John
www.johnkenneyink.com

 




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