Contact paper question

Ok, now that LF is taking my free time it's time to get
contact printing (& enlarging as well) done right.
Or at least to understand it more fully.

So, let's pursue 8x10 contact printing for now.
1. Is there a "best" contact printing paper?
1.1 Any online examples of AZO vs. whatever, to show the difference?

2. Do chemicals make any difference here?

Any other things to look at that you can think of?

TIA,

Collin

"Collin Brendemuehl" wrote


So, let's pursue 8x10 contact printing for now.
1. Is there a "best" contact printing paper?

Since there is only one (?? - or are there 2)
it is not only the best, but also the worst.
In sum, it is thoroughly mediocre.

1.1 Any online examples of AZO vs. whatever, to show the difference?

Enter "azo paper" into Google - then click on the images tab.

2. Do chemicals make any difference here?

Do you dip the cracker into the wine or do you take the wine
and cracker separately?: Episcopalian churches in Kansas City
had schisms on this issue. (Unitarian urban legend)

When all is said and done the developers (outside of the
obvious, such as what color toner was used) make little
difference. IMHO: only the person making the prints would
can one he developed in Dektol from the one he developed
in Ansco 130.

And after saying that, I'm killfiling this thread.

Any other things to look at that you can think of?

Mountains, rivers, forests, flowers, women ....
It is necessary to look at these things first.

--
Nicholas O. Lindan, Cleveland, Ohio
Consulting Engineer: Electronics; Informatics; Photonics.

Kodak still makes AZO. Bergger has a new contact paper which I haven't
used. And then there is Centennial POP which I prefer.

Centennial is akin to the old Kodak Studio Proof gelatine silver chloride
printing-out-paper and has a nice purplish tone which responds well to
several toning formulas. No developer needed in the processing. It is
available through Bostick & Sullivan as well as Chicago Albumen Works.

AZO is also a wonderful paper if treated correctly. Michael Smith sings
its praises on his website.

Contact prints on any of these papers will blow away any enlarging paper
print in my experience. They are hardly "mediocre" IMHO.

Joe



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"Nicholas O. Lindan" wrote:

"Collin Brendemuehl" wrote

So, let's pursue 8x10 contact printing for now.
1. Is there a "best" contact printing paper?

Since there is only one (?? - or are there 2)
it is not only the best, but also the worst.
In sum, it is thoroughly mediocre.

(snip)

In article . net,
"Nicholas O. Lindan" wrote:

And after saying that, I'm killfiling this thread.

That's because he knows he is going to get a lot of flack.
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(Collin Brendemuehl) wrote

1. Is there a "best" contact printing paper?

Projection papers will expose more quickly. THE contact paper
Azo is very slow.
Fortezo does list a contact speed paper. Likely Europe is the
only source. Dan

In article ,
(Dan Quinn) wrote:

Fortezo does list a contact speed paper. Likely Europe is the
only source. Dan


Bad info:

It can be gotten and is distributed in the USA.
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Gregory W Blank wrote

Dan Quinn wrote:

Fortezo does list a contact speed paper. Likely Europe is the
only source.

Bad info: It can be gotten and is distributed in the USA.


Would you care to name a source?

In all my shopping for papers from Freestyle on the West and
B&H on the East, I've not seen a Forte contact paper listed. Dan

In article ,
(Dan Quinn) wrote:

Gregory W Blank wrote

Dan Quinn wrote:

Fortezo does list a contact speed paper. Likely Europe is the
only source.

Bad info: It can be gotten and is distributed in the USA.


Would you care to name a source?

In all my shopping for papers from Freestyle on the West and
B&H on the East, I've not seen a Forte contact paper listed. Dan

The mistake is two fold then, at first glance I read "Fortezo" Only,....
not the contact paper part.

Its - Forte !!!

Fortezo is the partcular product designation for warm tone graded
paper. Contact paper you are correct is not available, however if one is given to
ordering it could be gotten through a variety of dealers, ultimately through
Omega Satter, more than likely it would require a large purchase cash up front.
Possibly a 3-6 month wait.......Forte sells roll papers in this fashion and a Good
source of roll papers and special orders is K&M camera.
--
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(Collin Brendemuehl) wrote in message . com...
Ok, now that LF is taking my free time it's time to get
contact printing (& enlarging as well) done right.
Or at least to understand it more fully.

So, let's pursue 8x10 contact printing for now.
1. Is there a "best" contact printing paper?
1.1 Any online examples of AZO vs. whatever, to show the difference?

2. Do chemicals make any difference here?

Any other things to look at that you can think of?

TIA,

Collin



I've worked with the Azo for a year now, and while it is a beautiful
paper, I honestly don't think it's differences are always preferable.
It has a slighter longer tonal range, but you might find you don't
always like the look. I've done it in amidol developer, which is not
absolutely necessary. Some say Agfa Neutol WA is a great paper
developer for Azo. Normal papers can be quite satisfying, and Azo,
shouldn't be necessary, though it does have it's charms. If you are
like me, you'll have to see for yourself. Nothing over the web is
going to really tell its qualities. At its price, including the amidol,
I am likely headed back to a regular fiber. I like Ilford Multigrade.
For alot of Azo information, and a forum see: Michael A. Smith & Paula
Chamlee's Website. They be the Azo gods.

Ken

(Collin Brendemuehl) wrote in message . com...
Ok, now that LF is taking my free time it's time to get
contact printing (& enlarging as well) done right.
Or at least to understand it more fully.

So, let's pursue 8x10 contact printing for now.
1. Is there a "best" contact printing paper?
1.1 Any online examples of AZO vs. whatever, to show the difference?

2. Do chemicals make any difference here?

Any other things to look at that you can think of?

TIA,

Collin

Contact-type papers used to be commonplace, but no more. Azo will give
you astonishing quality.