Images of Kodak

On 2012-01-29 19:12:14 -0800, Robert Coe said:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:36:50 -0600, George Kerby
wrote:

Le Snip

: CUDOS, Sir!

I'll bet the Duck even knows how to spell "kudos". ;^)

Bob

"Quoodose "

--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 1/29/2012 10:16 PM, Savageduck wrote:

snip

I am glad to see some of what I add from time to time is appreciated.
That said I add my fair share to the OT sludge. However good footwear
will always allow you to wade through most of the muck!


Nest you'll say that webbed feet let you walk on top of it.


--
Peter

On 2012-01-30 07:21:43 -0800, PeterN said:

On 1/29/2012 10:16 PM, Savageduck wrote:

snip

I am glad to see some of what I add from time to time is appreciated.
That said I add my fair share to the OT sludge. However good footwear
will always allow you to wade through most of the muck!


Nest you'll say that webbed feet let you walk on top of it.

However, I am always sure to remove the good old 13D's post wade, lest
I mess that nest.

--
Regards,

Savageduck

On 1/30/2012 10:29 AM, Savageduck wrote:
On 2012-01-30 07:21:43 -0800, PeterN said:

On 1/29/2012 10:16 PM, Savageduck wrote:

snip

I am glad to see some of what I add from time to time is appreciated.
That said I add my fair share to the OT sludge. However good footwear
will always allow you to wade through most of the muck!


Nest you'll say that webbed feet let you walk on top of it.

However, I am always sure to remove the good old 13D's post wade, lest I
mess that nest.


Freudian typo?

--
Peter

On 1/29/12 9:12 PM, in article ,
"Robert Coe" wrote:

On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:36:50 -0600, George Kerby
wrote:
:
:
:
: On 1/29/12 7:45 PM, in article
: 2012012917452827544-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck"
: wrote:
:
: On 2012-01-29 17:03:55 -0800, George Kerby
said:
:
:
:
:
: On 1/29/12 4:47 PM, in article
: 2012012914475211272-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck"
: wrote:
:
: On 2012-01-27 01:26:35 -0800, Nemo said:
:
: On 27/01/2012 02:49, Robert Coe wrote:
: On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:08:19 -0800 (PST),
: wrote:
: : On Jan 19, 7:15 am, wrote:
: : wrote:
: : This week, Kodak has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.
As
: : a tribute to the company, the Guardian newspaper (UK) has
published
: : an online gallery of images illustrating Kodak's history. Enjoy!
: :
: : http://preview.tinyurl.com/8yp6j7z
: : or:
: :
:
:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/gallery/2012/jan/19/eastman-kodak-...

:
: :
: : (now cross posted to 3 newsgroups)
: :
: : The seeds of their destruction were in those photos. Profitless,
: : cheap camera bodies. That's mostly what killed them.
:
: Maybe, but for most of their existence it wasn't a stupid strategy.
They
: made
: most of their money from the sale of film. Cheap camera bodies made
sense
: as
: a
: marketing tool. Allocation of the resulting profit and loss is an
: accounting
: fiction.
:
: Bob
: Yes, its the razor versus razor blade model, also that used in the
: inkjet printer market. Works best if you can lock in your customers by
: patenting the commodity to prevent third-party competition.
:
: Apple are making it work both ways: expensive platform products and
: lock-in to content supply.
:
: With all this talk of fading technology and single purpose
: corporations, I am reminded of Addressograph-Multigraph which became AM
: International. In the 50's, 60's, & even into the 70's, I can remember
: cabinets filled with thousands of those Addressograph plates. They were
: used in large, and some not so large mailrooms, and distribution
: systems. Along with the simple addressing machines they had automatic
: envelope address writing systems.
: They made most of the credit card embossing machines, and many other
: embossing/date-stamp machines. (you don't see many of those today.)
: They also had a DoD contract for supplying "dog tag" embossers, which
: are probably still working.
:
: They were outpaced by progress, and like the buggy-whip manufacturers,
: were never able to reinvent themselves.
: http://ech.case.edu/ech-cgi/article.pl?id=AII
:
: ...and here are a few other office equipment items which travelled the
:
: same road.
: http://www.earlyofficemuseum.com/mail_machines.htm
:
:
: Microfish comes to mind...
:
: Damn!
: We were still using those for some archived case files in 2009, some 4
: years after a State computer archiving project was initiated. For all I
: know, after I retired, that work still might not be complete and the
: readers still in use. There were still two microfiche readers in my
: offices in daily use when I retired at the end of February 2009.
:
: Some of the microfiche pages were so badly scanned as to be almost
: illegible. So when the computer project got underway, they just used
: the same badly scanned microfiche images as no hard copies existed.
: Where hardcopies existed, decent scans were made. Entries made into
: various computer software such as Word, Excel, and Access made the
: transition reasonably well.
: Now there are several dedicated integrated report systems for
: incidents, crime reports, and criminal data which also access the
: archives. There are the usual compatibility issues when dealing with
: different jurisdictions even within the State. Very little is done on
: paper today, at the State level in California anyway.
:
: Sorry for my misspelling. But glad that it stimulated your mind. You are one
: of the few here who really have an excellent input with really interesting
: subject matter. Thank you for that, Duck. You are a gem in a sea of silt.
:
: CUDOS, Sir!

I'll bet the Duck even knows how to spell "kudos". ;^)

Bob

Pick-Nitting again, Bob?!?

On Mon, 30 Jan 2012 10:58:16 -0600, George Kerby
wrote:
:
:
:
: On 1/29/12 9:12 PM, in article ,
: "Robert Coe" wrote:
:
: On Sun, 29 Jan 2012 20:36:50 -0600, George Kerby
: wrote:
: :
: :
: :
: : On 1/29/12 7:45 PM, in article
: : 2012012917452827544-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck"
: : wrote:
: :
: : On 2012-01-29 17:03:55 -0800, George Kerby
: said:
: :
: :
: :
: :
: : On 1/29/12 4:47 PM, in article
: : 2012012914475211272-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom, "Savageduck"
: : wrote:
: :
: : On 2012-01-27 01:26:35 -0800, Nemo said:
: :
: : On 27/01/2012 02:49, Robert Coe wrote:
: : On Thu, 19 Jan 2012 10:08:19 -0800 (PST),
: : wrote:
: : : On Jan 19, 7:15 am, wrote:
: : : wrote:
: : : This week, Kodak has filed for Chapter 11 bankruptcy protection.
: As
: : : a tribute to the company, the Guardian newspaper (UK) has
: published
: : : an online gallery of images illustrating Kodak's history. Enjoy!
: : :
: : : http://preview.tinyurl.com/8yp6j7z
: : : or:
: : :
: :
: :
:
: http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/gallery/2012/jan/19/eastman-kodak-...
:
: :
: : :
: : : (now cross posted to 3 newsgroups)
: : :
: : : The seeds of their destruction were in those photos. Profitless,
: : : cheap camera bodies. That's mostly what killed them.
: :
: : Maybe, but for most of their existence it wasn't a stupid strategy.
: They
: : made
: : most of their money from the sale of film. Cheap camera bodies made
: sense
: : as
: : a
: : marketing tool. Allocation of the resulting profit and loss is an
: : accounting
: : fiction.
: :
: : Bob
: : Yes, its the razor versus razor blade model, also that used in the
: : inkjet printer market. Works best if you can lock in your customers by
: : patenting the commodity to prevent third-party competition.
: :
: : Apple are making it work both ways: expensive platform products and
: : lock-in to content supply.
: :
: : With all this talk of fading technology and single purpose
: : corporations, I am reminded of Addressograph-Multigraph which became AM
: : International. In the 50's, 60's, & even into the 70's, I can remember
: : cabinets filled with thousands of those Addressograph plates. They were
: : used in large, and some not so large mailrooms, and distribution
: : systems. Along with the simple addressing machines they had automatic
: : envelope address writing systems.
: : They made most of the credit card embossing machines, and many other
: : embossing/date-stamp machines. (you don't see many of those today.)
: : They also had a DoD contract for supplying "dog tag" embossers, which
: : are probably still working.
: :
: : They were outpaced by progress, and like the buggy-whip manufacturers,
: : were never able to reinvent themselves.
: : http://ech.case.edu/ech-cgi/article.pl?id=AII
: :
: : ...and here are a few other office equipment items which travelled the
: :
: : same road.
: : http://www.earlyofficemuseum.com/mail_machines.htm
: :
: :
: : Microfish comes to mind...
: :
: : Damn!
: : We were still using those for some archived case files in 2009, some 4
: : years after a State computer archiving project was initiated. For all I
: : know, after I retired, that work still might not be complete and the
: : readers still in use. There were still two microfiche readers in my
: : offices in daily use when I retired at the end of February 2009.
: :
: : Some of the microfiche pages were so badly scanned as to be almost
: : illegible. So when the computer project got underway, they just used
: : the same badly scanned microfiche images as no hard copies existed.
: : Where hardcopies existed, decent scans were made. Entries made into
: : various computer software such as Word, Excel, and Access made the
: : transition reasonably well.
: : Now there are several dedicated integrated report systems for
: : incidents, crime reports, and criminal data which also access the
: : archives. There are the usual compatibility issues when dealing with
: : different jurisdictions even within the State. Very little is done on
: : paper today, at the State level in California anyway.
: :
: : Sorry for my misspelling. But glad that it stimulated your mind. You are one
: : of the few here who really have an excellent input with really interesting
: : subject matter. Thank you for that, Duck. You are a gem in a sea of silt.
: :
: : CUDOS, Sir!
:
: I'll bet the Duck even knows how to spell "kudos". ;^)
:
: Bob
:
: Pick-Nitting again, Bob?!?

Naaah, just an old-style Goldwater Republican who can't resist twisting the
tail of a Neocon. ;^)

Bob