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Old May 5th 11, 05:59 PM posted to rec.photo.equipment.35mm,rec.photo.digital,rec.photo.digital.slr-systems
Neil Harrington[_6_]
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"Bill Graham" wrote in message
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Neil Harrington wrote:
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J. Clarke wrote:
In article 2011042919334216807-savageduck1@REMOVESPAMmecom,
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On 2011-04-29 19:04:06 -0700, "Bill Graham"
said: Le Snip

It wasn't trhe US Army that kept the Japanese from invading us
during WW-II. It was their knowledge that there were over 100
million guns in the hands of the American citizens. They knew that
they wouldn't have the chance of a snowball in hell of getting
anywhere.

Let me see if I can appropriately phrase my response to that
bizarre assertion;

Huh!!?? WTF??

You need to read a little of the geo-politics of the Pacific rim
and Asia, with regard to Japan in the 1930's and early 1940's
before Pearl
Harbor.
A Japanese invasion of North America was not thwarted by musket
bearing minutemen. The Japanese had no intention of an invasion of
North
America. They wanted the US out of the Asian arena.

He needs to learn something about logistics too. The IJN didn't
have the means to invade the US without first taking Hawaii and it's
questionable whether they had such means even if they did take
Hawaii.

Why do you suppose they attacked Hawaii and sank 1/3 of our Pacific
fleet is they didn't intend to eventually take over the United
States.


They did that only because Roosevelt had left them little choice but
to make war on us, and that was exactly FDR's intention. He
desperately wanted to get the U.S. into the war, but 80% of the
American people wanted no part of any war in either theater.
Provoking the Japanese (or Germans) into attacking us was his only
chance of getting us into the war; finally, on Dec. 7, 1941,
Roosevelt was successful and the rest, as they say, is history.

The Japanese had no North American ambitions. Bill, that notion is
just silly.

Do you think they thought we would just surrender to them out of
hand? I don't think so. they waged war on us for the usual reasons.
They wanted, "lebensraum" just as did Adolf.


They already had all the "lebensraum" they needed and then some, in
Manchukuo (Manchuria) and obviously their excursions into China and
elsewhere in southeast Asia had been completely successful. The last
thing they needed or wanted was to take on the world's greatest
industrial power.


And you think sinking 1/3 of our Pacific fleet at Pearl wasn't taking on
the world's greatest industrial power? If it wasn't, then what exactly was
it?


Of course it was. I said it was the last thing they wanted, not that they
didn't do it. Eventually FDR forced them to attack us.


 




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