Sometimes stupid loses

"Bill Graham" wrote in message
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Eric Stevens wrote:
On Sun, 1 May 2011 11:56:00 -0400, "Neil Harrington"
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"Savageduck" wrote in message
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On 2011-04-29 19:04:06 -0700, "Bill Graham" said:

Le Snip

It wasn't trhe US Army that kept the Japanese from invading us
during WW-II. It was their knowledge that there were over 100
million guns in the hands of the American citizens. They knew that
they wouldn't have the chance of a snowball in hell of getting
anywhere.

Let me see if I can appropriately phrase my response to that bizarre
assertion;

Huh!!?? WTF??

You need to read a little of the geo-politics of the Pacific rim
and Asia, with regard to Japan in the 1930's and early 1940's
before Pearl Harbor. A Japanese invasion of North America was not
thwarted by musket bearing minutemen. The Japanese had no intention
of an invasion of North America. They wanted the US out of the
Asian arena.

Well anyway, they wanted the U.S. to stop trying to keep *them* "out
of the Asian arena." We, the British and to a lesser extent the
Dutch were shutting the Japanese out of commerce in the Pacific rim.

You are quite right. Japan particularly wanted access to Indonesian
oil. They were motivated by the US led embargo on supplying oil to
Japan.

But quite right, they never had any intention of invading North
America, a preposterous idea.

Ridiculous! You don't sink 1/3 of another nations Pacific fleet without
knowing that eventually you either are going to have to invade them or
they are going to invade you.

That's just not true, Bill. Well, depending on what you mean by "iinvade."
Some action on land somewhere may take place in any war that is essentially
a naval war, but not necessarily "invasion" in the sense of taking and
holding some significant land mass.

In February 1904, Japan declared war on Russia and attacked the Russian
fleet at Port Arthur. (The reasons and events leading up to this are too
complicated to go into here.) The war lasted until September 1905, the
Japanese winning decisively. During the war there had important actions on
land such as the Battle of Mukden, but there never was any Japanese attempt
to invade Russia proper. Japan simply had no desire to do so.